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Survivor’s and Killer’s Time Period

Malum_Midnight
Malum_Midnight Member Posts: 366

I’ve seen a couple of forum posts about this, but those were from 2018. The purpose of this post is that I want to establish a time period of when the original characters came to the entity’s realm. I have a pretty good idea of 3, those being Deathslinger, Oni, and Plague. Deathslinger certainly seems to have been taken from the late 1800s, Oni from the late 1700s-early 1800s, and Plague around 2000 BC. The rest seem to be in the 20th and 21st century.

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  • Veeramid
    Veeramid Member Posts: 113

    Trapper is from the mac millian estate which if i remember was around the 1870s.

  • VolantConch1719
    VolantConch1719 Member Posts: 1,253

    Before we got the Plague, the devs made it very clear that Huntress was the oldest Killer, taken after WWI, which ended in 1918.

    I created my timeline (which is what you're 98% referring to, since I haven't really seen any others, plus you commented there after you posted this) in 2018, yes, but I do keep it up to date. You're correct that most are 20th to 21st century, with those three you mention being the exceptions. The only one I completely disagree with your estimate is Oni (my placement is 1530-1550 due to those who weren't samurai being banned from even owning swords around 1600, meaning he's from the Sengoku Period).

    As for the Survivors, someone did attempt a timeline, but they left the forums after Stranger Things came out, so if you want to go for it, take your shot.

  • Malum_Midnight
    Malum_Midnight Member Posts: 366

    @VolantConch1719 After a bit of research on my own, I believe you are right. But I think I can actually pin down a year.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9tndmg/in_feudal_japan_it_was_illegal_for_nonsamurai_to/ The top comment on this reddit thread seems to name the law you were referring to. This law was passed in 1588. The thing you didn’t seem to mention though was that it didn’t seem to have been enforced. Many non-samurais were able to carry weapons, so that gives a motive for Kazan’s journey. In his mind, it was “If the government won’t enforce the law, I will”. So I would put his journey’s start at 1588.

    Onto his map, Sanctum of Wrath, I found out that the type of shrine was a Hachiman Shrine, a form of Shinto Shrine. After more research, I found that the oldest Shinto Shine with wooden toriis, was built in 1535. The dates line up extremely well so far. In the map’s lore, the shrine was abandoned for several seasons, so I would say a decade.

    We also know that Kazan had a son, Akito. When Akito was young, he fell off a tree with his playmate, and Kazan killed their entire family. This would be before his pilgrimage, since he never made it back home. I would say Akito would be between the ages of 5-10 at this point. If Kazan had Akito when he was 20, then Kazan would be 35-30 when this happened. Assuming his journey took place shortly after this, this would mean Kazan died fairly young, even for his time, since his mother and father were both still alive when he left.

    While researching this, I remembered Kazan’s father, Renjiro, was in a war. I looked up Japanese wars, and the only war he could’ve been in is the Imjin War, from 1592-1598. Assuming Renjiro retired after the war ended, this puts a wrench in our numbers. However, it’s not too far fetched to change the dates of Kazan a bit. Renjiro survived a ship wreck, which was probably near the beginning of the war. Forgot to mention, this war was between China/Korea and Japan. He continued to fight, and became extremely well known. If he did indeed retire from the military, Kazan would’ve most likely been born in 1598-99. We know Renjiro didn’t retire fully, at he was defending a lord from Kazan’s pilgrimage. Depending on when he left, the year could change. After more research, it seems like it would take about a year to walk across Japan at his rate of speed, visiting most towns and such. For the sake of a year, let’s say he left in 1629, accounting for Akito’s estimated age and birth year. This would make Kazan 31 when the entity took him, and him leaving in 1630.