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Survivors, why do you flashlight burn while a killer is breaking a pallet?
I have seen this tactic used in every match with a flashlight. Flashlight burning a killer in any animation lock against half decent killers is useless, since you will lose distance and the killer can listen for sounds? What benefit is there to this?
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Well if u have something like quick & quiet you can vault a window and potentially escape but let's be honest, it's just to be toxic. (I meant toxic as in annoying)
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It doesn't even work. When I'm blinded while breaking a pallet, I just keep walking straight and end up being as near to them as before... I always feel like if it's a survivor who knows what they're doing way better than me, it's to be toxic, but I also feel like many "average" survivors don't realize it isn't very effective (like for a long time as survivor I honestly thought killers couldn't walk when they're blinded :D ), and that they should rather keep their flashlight charge for trying to blind when I'm carrying a survivor.
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I've never gotten the hang of stupid flashlights so I'm guessing based on getting blinded as a killer...
If I break the pallet without being blinded, it is far far easier for me to see which direction the survivor went to continue chase. If they blind me though, I have to resort to sound and luck that I go the right direction (or if I stand still until the blindness is gone, the survivor usually gets an extra few seconds of distance on me).
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To be fair, it can help people to get away. Especially if you’re running Urban Evasion as the killer has to guess which direction you went and you could be completely hidden by that time. When I’m running Iron Will, I’ll blind the killer and then walk around the corner and 9/10 they have no idea where I’ve gone and will start checking lockers and by that time I’ve completely left the area and they’ve wasted time chasing a survivor without getting a down / hook. Most people just use this tactic wrong and will do it in big open spaces where they can’t actually utilise it and leave the killers FOV.
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I did this when tome hade a "blind the killer" challange, since it's the easiest way to get that blind. But as killer sometimes after being blinded when breaking a pallet the survivor has vanished so it works sometimes. Other times perhaps survivors just wants them bloodpoints for blinding.
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Bloodpoints.
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Aren't you supposed to blind when you're injured with Iron Will?
It's not a bad way to try to juke the killer: They lose sight of you, so you can go in a different direction than they are thinking, or even straight back at them. That said, blinding just to blind is kind of toxic.
Unfortunately, there was a challenge in the tome to blind the killer, and pallet blinding is the easiest and most consistent way to get blinds in.
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One time I was playing pyramid head and a Jane stood still right on the other side of a pallet and tried to flashlight, she died shortly after
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points, its fun to chain blind and get to a window.
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Another killer triggered by a flashlight. 😂
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bloodpoints and flashlight practice.
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Last time I did that it was for a Rift challenge.
Playing with a flashlight can be fun but I prefer using medkits.
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Flashlight at pallets can help if you are more expericend than most of players and know how many tricks you can do with it. And also you gain a lot of bps for it. And the addons of the flashlight are really.... good. And not to say the flashlight blinds and also when you get blinded sometimes you dont hear them for few seconds, so imagine a surv with a flashlight and iron will, good luck finding that survivor.
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Wow, we got a comedian here. Looks like a little someone hasn't even read the discussion. I am fine with flashlights, but blinding at a pallet gives you a disadvantage and just makes you lose distance, and gives the killer an advantage, not the survivor. So my post is trying to help survivors, or asking why they blind at pallets. If you're going to troll in my discussions, read the description first :).
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Points, and its not always useless. Just generally
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A lot of the killers still fall for the whole -blind at the pallet and then run past them- tactic. I’ve noticed that it works a majority of the time, even without IW.
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Points
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If you have Iron Will it can allow you to do some fun jukes, like running through the killer just after they break the pallet or hiding nearby, or vaulting something with Q&Q. It won’t work all the time depending on how the killer plays, but it’s just a fun way to use a flashlight really.
Alternatively, challenges and/or bloodpoints. Or just practice with flashlight aiming/timing.
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Because it is fun for them. You are locked in an animation and cannot counter it so that means fun for them.
However, oh goodness if killer can do something they cannot counter oh my the game needs to be changed.
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They do it for three reasons:
- Assuming you're not injured or have Iron Will, it forces the killer to guess which way you went, which can give you enough distance to get to the next loop in time by the time they figure out where you went.
- Points.
- Flashlight blind challenges.
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Also potentially 4. They try to communicate they have a 'chase me' challenge.
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Killer can listen for sounds?
Lol are you playing an old version of DBD? Half the time you wont hear anything in this game even with a good headset.
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Sounds work for me on PS4. Also, killers can still hear the grass move.
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I want to point out that several add ons extend the duration of the blind making it even more difficult with their houdini act.
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sound works on PC too, and I only have my in-ear headphones and the general volume down on 40 (19 ingame). can even hear survivors/heartbeat hatch over chatting with friends.
Clicky, have you gotten your hearing checked lately (this is not snark, I've seen people discover they had trouble with their hearing due to things like this)
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Actually, no, they sometimes can't.
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the issue is most survs see people do it, and just copy it. You are SUPPOSE to flash them at the tail end of the animation, extending the time you are looping them and giving your exhaustion a few more seconds of recharge. It can be great. Doing it the second they start the animation however will just leave you stuck in a bad position and give the killer a free destruction and extra hit.
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With Quick n quiet it is actually possible to jump into locker during chase, why not. Also with the inner strength this would be rly nice
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I don't think they're triggered. You and I both know that they're genuinely curious on why survivors do this tactic and he came to ask the survivor community themselves. He doesn't want to just assume that they're being toxic right off the bat, because there might be another reason why Survivors use the stun and blind tactic.
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Exactly. I'm not even annoyed by it as a killer main, as it provides a huge disadvantage to the survivor and an advantage to the killer, since the survivor loses distance. Thank you.
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No one is triggered, I know a lot of killers (myself included) prefer players who bring flashlights to those who bring medkits or good toolboxes. Half of the players don’t know flahflighr timing, any good killer can avoid blinds when picking up and even fake it for a free hit.
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If done correctly and at the correct time you will more than likely lose them. The good thing is 90 percent of survivors are complete potatoes and do it just because they can and it ends up hurting them more than helping.
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I don't think this is a mystery. What do survivors get out of a flashlight blind? Bloodpoints and challenge progress. You could stop right there and have your answer already but keep thinking for a second. What does blinding a killer do? Makes it so they can't see momentarily. That gives the survivor the opportunity to perform a juke of some kind. Is it the most efficient method? Generally no, but as others have said, with the right perks you can pull something off.
Also, why assume everyone knows how to be the most efficient? Maybe they don't know how long the blind is. Lack of efficiency goes both ways: I've often seen a killer get blinded at the pallet and then they just stand there completely still until the blind wears off.
The jump to the assumption that "it's obvious they just want to be toxic" that some have done in this thread is a bad attitude to have. Of course some people want to be "toxic," but most are doing it for any of the reasons listed above. But if you go out every match looking for toxicity then you're going to label some things toxic that aren't in reality.
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It's hard to feel bad about tunneling when the survivors start out with toxic flashlight blinds.
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Well what made you make the post? Something must've happened.....just saying
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Nah, I've been watching multiple videos and have experienced it myself a lot. it all ends in the survivor being down in less than 10 seconds. I just want to know the mindset behind it.
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Oh okay. Understandable. I just wanted to know your reasoning
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Because chain blinding can be effective.
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It gives the survivor a chance to end a chase to give maybe a give the killer a loss of sense of direction of the survivor. But most of the time the killer will listen but maybe just maybe the survivor will gain decent distance from the killer.
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Yeah when this happens, I just follow the sound of footsteps and then down them afterwards.
It's like, 3 seconds you're wasting on flashlighting the killer when you can just gain a huge amount of distance.
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I only hate it because it's done when I'm trying to pick a body up. Which you're stuck in an animation unable to do anything about it then it's too late. (Case Scenario: Flasher was out of sight line, making killer believe it's safe to pick up body)
If you as killer was allowed to turn left or right during pickups it be no problem. Hell, even when breaking a pallet, you're looking down at the pallet at your foot. But somehow the flashlight still blinds you? Let along looking at the ground picking up a body when you clearly are bent over picking them up and still get stuck blinded 🤷♂️
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I haven't mastered a flashlight yet - never mind tried that maneuver. That extra second of time it gives you could be helpful for those new to flashing use. hmm.
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Every time I use the flashlight ... the killers are surprised to learn after the game that it wasn't me trying to grief them - that ermm no, that was me actually "trying" to use it. Yikes.
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Only time it works is with Iron will / quick and quiet or I do it to bait killer into continuing chase so my team can (hopefully) get some gens done. As killer it's super easy to hear the grunts of pain or follow scratch marks after but you have to just realize it's bait and head to do gen patrol.
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I think most of them just want the points or don't know what they're doing. It's always something that I question too, since you basically waste all the time you just had to run away.
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Honestly, Mothers Helpers should be iridescent.
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With Iron Will it can save your life.
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They could run past you as soon as you break the pallet
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Some survivors will run past you as you finish breaking the pallet and get more distance
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How are they triggered???
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