Im allready sick of rage/dc´ing cowards. Bring finally the DC penalty system back
Don´t get me wrong, i know the devs had some problems.
But for the love of god, fix it finally and bring the Penaltysystem back.
Mainreason: player´s can´t take their loss.... Point
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Are you being a dick in game? If so, stop being a dick. If not, start being a dick in game
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I will be honest if I know the killer has a mori I will either die on hook or sometimes DC. I only do it because 8 out of 10 times the killer will tunnel me once off the hook in hopes to use their Mori. I do not mind being Mori but I hate when someone tunnels just to use it. I personally never use Mori but I do not mind others using it but please do not make that the only reason for the match. Go pressure the others because the killers that stand there and wait to get the mori waste more time then just pressuring the others and getting me later. =)
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Dude, it's a video game. If you take it that seriously, the problem is you.
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IF the player d/c take it as a win and move on. =) No need to get mad. The only person the loses out really is the person that d/c's and gain no points and wasted their own time.
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honestly i agree with this as over the past couple of days ive had so many teamates and enemys dc when im versing them, this ruins it for the killer and also kills the whole entire game for the other 3 survivors that may of had a chance. also the worst part imo about the dcs is the part where survivors dc after literally getting downed have the time.
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honestly glad its been reverted. i shouldnt be forced to play against iri head huntress with a mori lol. if you hate when i dc feel free to leave -rep and cry
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People who DC because of the killer's setup just need to get better at the game. PERIODT
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Why is everyone acting as this only effects killer? Solo que is already ######### enough without potatoes dcing cause they’re trash at the game. And let’s not act as if they always have legitimate reason to either.
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DC's almost always negatively affect the match for the remaining 4 players. If killer DC's, all the survivors are now denied even playing a full match and must wait through matchmaking again for another. If a survivor DC's, killer gets denied a lot of points (both BP and Emblems) and the survivor team is put in a more precarious position. Plus killer may feel that they were cheated out of an additional kill, whether from the DC'ing player themselves, or from a "tactical disconnect" that nabbed the last survivor a hatch escape.
The only benefit I see to having no DC penalties is that all players can freely skip out on playing the Midwich map for the time being.
Hopefully BHVR will figure out a way to eliminate the exploit that was being used to unfairly ban players and reintroduce the system.
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Yeah it sucks when a teanmate gets hit first and just decides to give up. I had a nea today that dced after missing a flashlight save.
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Missing a Flashlight save, i would've DC myself. i would be to ashamed to look at my teammates that depended on me on there death hook "F"
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Ragequit DC is a 100% victory and fun, let them DC
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Why do you get to make a match incredibly painful and boring ? Then force them to stay
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this is true, but its unfun to play vs 1 or 2 survivors
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I missed all the old 3 v 1 days, feels fun again when one gives up like that instead of dying on hook.
Go ahead Claudette, DC, you know you want to.
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When I'm a killer and someone DCs, I just let the rest farm as it feels unfair that one of their teammates decided to put them at a disadvantage.
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It is not a victory. if I am trying to kill all 4 survivors (for challenge) a DC DOES NOT COUNT I have to play again. If I'm to unhook the person that unhooked me before and they dc then I can't do that.
don't like it? then don't worry about staying in game. either afk, or attempt escape on hook. if you don't like either of those tough. it is against TOS to dc/rage quit. stop playing the game if you see it that often.
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I played 10 games yesterday and in 7 of them someone DC'd on their first down. I wasted two hours trying to play this game only to have it ruined because losers can't handle being downed.
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I played way more than 10 matches yesterday and didnt see that many DC, let me guess Iri Huntress? lol
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Yeah, definitely. I ran iri head and was surprised when people dc'd on me.
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OP there are plenty of legit reasons to DC . . .
- Tunnel for the mori . . . DC
- Face camp on the hook . . . DC
- Sandbagged by team . . . DC
The list goes on.
And they honestly don't need to put the DC penalty back when bots are coming to take the place of anyone who DCs anyway.
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It is a person's right to DC if they want, but as everyone pointed out, it has consequences on everyone.
You basically screw over your other three survivors. Survivors have 3 lives and with four of them in the game that is 12 lives as a whole. Killers have to hook at most, 12 times to win. By DCing first hook, you effectively take out 1/4 of your times lives. You also decrease your teams ability to get things done. At the least, Killers are chasing 1 person at a time. This leaves 3 people to get done tasks around the game. It is a lot of pressure on killers. By DCing right away, you ease the pressure so much especially during the beginning of the game.
It also has effects on killers though too to a lesser extent. A DC gives the killer a choice. To recognize the game is harder now for survivors and give them a chance, or just go all out. A lot of people won't feel affected by this and kill. However, as someone who plays at red ranks, if a person DCs at the beginning of the game, I usually let 1 person go. It just doesn't seem fair to me to punish the entire team for one person's selfishness.
For the person who DCs. You are limiting your success in the game and screwing over others. People will not want to play with you because of you screwing them over and get enough reports and action could be taken against you. By not testing yourself when facing something you don't want to face, you will never get better. There is always a way to get out of a situation on both sides. Is much as it sucks, you could have got unlucky and the killer might not be good as you think.
And while this may be mean, if you keep on DCing when things don't go your way, maybe you shouldn't play this game. There will always be people better than you and worse than you. Despite the hours I put in, I know there will be games I lose on both sides. I accept it and use it to push myself to get better.
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That is exactly why the DC penalty was put in place! You would rather DC..,
Never mind it doesn't even matter what I say since I'm probablt 1/10000 player that would rather play against something OP so I can get better
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Yeah sorry ######### that.. If I see a Killer one hook mori or bring an iri head huntress you can guarantee i'm DC'ing
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Just checking for that challenge? I cannot find the one were you have to kill all 4 survivors. I am not being rude but just asking or are you made and just saying IF there was a challenge it would be impossible with people D/Cing? I mean it it is the later question then I could say I hate when a killer hooks me IF I am trying to do a challenge that I have to play without getting hooked, which there has been one, or if I am doing a challenge where I must escape using Dwight.
I have had a killer D/C because they did not hook one person and because I did not escape out the gate I could not complete the challenge. I did not get mad and laughed and moved on. I say you do you and if people get punished then you may lose players all together who hate that because their internet crashed, and that has happened to me, get in the banned que time for something out of their control. I had one match I was dead and in the loading screen for the end results so me turning my game off should not have mattered, but I got a drink and went to play again and had a 10 minute que time. I decided to take a long break from the game and play other stuff.
Also like one person mentioned above there is a good list of reasons to D/C and it is everyone rights to D/C even yours.
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4th level of the third tome, it's the one right be the epilogue in the center if you go from the top killer start point. says kill the players by any means possible and do it in one match. there has been one of these in each tome. I was saying that a dc does things, robs others of points, challenges, and many other things. in your case I would hope that the killer has a disconnect penalty that they have to bear. the only REASON to use out of match capabilities to leave the match is if you are stuck in the geometry or bugged where the game will not come to an end. Those two are the only reasons you should every disconnect from the game INTENTIONALLY.
It is not your RIGHT to disconnect. not when that disconnect affects others. The First Amendment in the united states only applies to the government, not businesses or the people. and you don't know where I am from either, you are assuming that I am in the united states and that in and of itself is bad. Because the first amendment has no functionality or existance here on this forum, Behavior can decide to lock anyone's account for any reason. doesn't matter what that reason is, if it's a crappy one, then they risk others finding out and deciding to not purchase things from them anymore or play their game.
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It is THEIR RIGHT because they paid for the game. I do not care about what the Constitution or whatever says. It is funny you assumed I am from there. Once again like others you assumed that I assumed or cared where you are from and I didn't and don't, but plain and simple you cannot tell someone who used THEIR OWN MONEY what they can and cannot do in THEIR copy of the game.
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I've had no one disconnect my matches because I play fairly.
That means no tunneling, no face camping, no toxic behaviour, giving everyone a fair chance. You know just general good sportsmanship and being a good muthafuka. Something that neurologically defective psychopaths fail to grasp.
The end result is everyone has a good time and post match chat is almost exclusively a feel good experience.
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I'm not going to act like ive read TOS, but i HIGHLY doubt that leaving mid game is against tos and you can get banned for it once lmao. Especially since the option is literally there. Feel free to tell me where it says that in tos and i will believe you.
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Or youre probably a 100 hour player that thinks you can "play better" against an iri head huntress with a mori lol. The same type of killer that thinks you could have just played better if youre pig on rancid abbatoir against a 4 man swf.
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Actually it is against TOS to disconnect from the game without leaving the game naturally. this is why there is an option to REPORT people who ragequit/intentionally D/C. (the far right on the scoreboard it says it right there). The rules are set forth and most don't read them, but ignorance of a law is not a defense. and the TOS is the law of the game as set down by Behavior.
EDIT: and though the option is there, it is supposed to be used in extreme distress where there is no other way to naturally conclude the game. Ask any dev, ask any forum community manager or anyone at behavior and they will say it is not something to be used lightly.
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actually Yes Behavior can dictate how their software is used. since this was purchased through STEAM, you do not own it but purchase the RIGHTS to use the software as set forth in their TOS and RULES of the game. they can at any time revoke your usage of their game acording to the TOS. here is the TOS: https://store.steampowered.com/eula/381210_eula_0 (also this is for microsoft store, Xbox and Playstaion.) This is the same reasoning that Steam can ban you for cheating in a game even if you never did so, but someone used your computer, and blamo because they did it steam gave you a vac ban.
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I sometimes do that too, but if it happens so many times it gets really boring. I hate farming games but its also unfair for the others.
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They bring back d/c penalties, people will just suicide on hook. Same scenario, diff setup, no punishment. Either way if people don't want to play they're not gonna play.
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you actually made me read through tos and i couldnt find anything, again feel free to show me where it says dcing is bannable.
the closest thing i found is this.> "Interfere with the ability of others to enjoy playing a BHVR Service or take actions that interfere with or materially increase the cost to provide a BHVR Service for the enjoyment of all its users."
which is really vague and probably just refers body blocking griefing etc.
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fine i will do your research for you: googling "dbd reportable offenses" you see this: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/19450/game-rules-and-report-system
Guess what it is in there.. (this has the penalty system for disconnects in it so it says do not report but currently it is not in there) but now that you've read the TOS you know they can remove your access for any reason what so ever, and this includes abuses of the game itself including "disconnecting" you do not have an action in the match that lets you "disconnect/leave the match" you have to open the match menu and use the functionality in that. this is abusing the system as that functionality is there to stop a game from going for hours. the fact you think that disconnecting for just any reason, or even a few reasons shows how much respect you hold others to and that is very little. as I stated before the functionality to disconnect is to prevent the matches from not finishing, survivor/killer stuck in the geometry or bug that prevents the game from completing.
NOW the reason there is a penalty now is becuase people will disconnect because they don't like how the killer nodded at them (yes i've heard and seen this), they didn't like that the killer tunneled them, or camped them. other reasons I've heard and seen "I was found right away." or "I don't like killer X" (only one of those i'd EVER agree on grudgingly, is in the case of a sever phobia for example of clowns as this is potentially a mental break or worse). all of those reasons are actual reasons i've been a witness to and it is not even fair for the killer or the survivors you play with.
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2k actually! I prefer playing killer's that are OP simply because it feels rewarding when I escape. That's the difference between me and most survivor's! I like the pressure, I like the challenge, other survivor's just wanna mindlessly loop the killer with no challenge being presented
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Disconnecting against Freddy or Spirit doesn't make you a coward, it makes you smart.
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it makes you a Game Rules Violator, and I enjoy seeing those time outs when people dc because of your actions.
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I honestly don't care about the DC issue.
I get more points if people DC and 3 DC's is an automatic pip, 3DC's late in game is a guaranteed double pip.
A suicide on hook doesn't offer that. So I don't mind.
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well TECHNICALLY they can ban you for no reason, its their game. but realistically, you can't get banned for dcing by reports. Im pretty sure if you dc too much you get auto banned even without the time penalty.
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To be fair. There IS a Quiter Bonus. You get a decent amount of BP for them quiting. As for a teammate survivor. If one quits you should get the quiters take on BP. That's the only side of it they should have.
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I have not had any problem with people DCing, it has happened and has not been a problem. I am so glad the ridiculous DC penalty system is gone, at least for now. Not only was I sick of being trapped in games with killers who were entitled to camp/tunnel every match because they knew if you left you would be punished not them. I was also tired of every other post in the forum being from people who just want to play but got kicked off server, ending their play for the night. It was a terrible setup all the way around. Maybe an future implementation will be better executed and more fair.
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i do it too i like to farm anyway sometimes.
d/c penalties only punishes killers because they can't hook them selfs
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if they were currently functioning. they have been disabled to prevent the hacking. and YES you can, and if you do it enough they can review your account and decide what to do about it beyond just the automated penalties.
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if you are so fed up with this, then take a break or quit playing all together. if you feel you have to expect to dc because a killer doesn't play YOUR way then find a different game. I am glad the penalty existed, and when it was gone suddenly I see 50% more dc's at minimum and it stops me from getting points, challenges and even escaping thanks to the selfishness of people like you. Personally I think the penalties were way too soft.
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For the love or god bring back a DC penalty. Half of my games are unplayable. If you DC just because of a Mori or pink add on get better. Literally anyone who DC because of either of those is a big baby. People DC because they got hooked too early or missed a stun or their friend died and it’s total bull.
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Take your own advice maybe. If YOU do not like the way the survivor plays either D/Cing or dieing on one hook then take a break. Your argument it is very one sided. You tell him to get over it and accept the way a killer plays well let the survivor do the same. Also if people are D/Cing that much with you as killer then maybe ask yourself why they are D/Cing because I cannot imagine people just do it for fun. I would only D/C if the killer is being a complete toxic player because the que time and load time can be long sometimes and then to D/C after all that, you must have bothered me enough I would guess.
I also can honestly say I do not see many D/C's so for it to be a problem with you it could be for a list of reasons. You could be playing toxic and camping and tunneling and then in that case good for them for D/Cing or, you could do what other killers do and farm the survivors by dropping and picking back up so they force you to escape only to smack you back down. I am not saying that is what YOU are doing but just saying these would drive anyone to D/C. There is a bunch of legit reason to D/C and even sometimes it is by accident.
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Also two things, you are right they can perma ban and stop people from playing on steam, but once again you assume I bought it on steam. I own the cartridge and the game on switch so yes at best they could somehow stop me from playing online but I could still play local games with friends right here in my living room so point me. =)
Then number two about the TOS you are right by saying D/C is a bannable offense but no where in there does it directly list D/C and instead says this very vague and umbrella term:
"While participating in the Game, you also agree to comply with certain rules of conduct that govern your use of the game ("Rules of Conduct"), for example you may not:
"eHarass, threaten, embarrass, or do anything else to another user that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages or making personal attacks or statements about race, sexual orientation, religion".....and the list goes on but not one thing about D/C. Overall yes they could ban you for anything. I mean it says right there you may not do anything else to another use that is unwanted....well I do not want you to hook me or camp or tunnel me so report that. I do not want you to throw me on the ground and watch me bleed out so report that I guess. I mean it is like grasping at straws trying to make a point but just do what the rest of us do and go into a new game with a fresh smile and pep in your step or take a break. Good day mate and hope your problem get's fixed because deep down I do not think it is the D/Cing that is the issue but the root cause of why you are having so many people D/Cing when you play. Pip pip and cheerio! =)
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It's not. That's the reason, cheater get permabanned and leaver get a punishment in many competetive games like dota, lol, overwatch etc.
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