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Does nothing take skill in DBD?
There's something I noticed. No matter what people talk about be it a specific killer or survivor gameplay in general there's usually a couple of guys that will point out why X-killer or survivor gameplay didn't require skill.
What's your opinion on this? Does nothing in DBD require skill? Is it a game that can be mastered by a 3 year old in 1 day? What's the most and the least skillful thing in the game (and why do you think so)?
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P3 Blendette with sprint burst takes 0 skill
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It's more about being creative than skill, but it's certainly not a game which requires zero skill. Techniques need to be learnt, and there are constant changes in play required, depending on the Killer and how skilled the player is.
Basically, if it requires no skill, there would not be the disparity between skill levels of playersbto such a degree as witnessed.
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People say this about the opposing side and vice versa. But this game takes skill, lots of knowledge of the game etc to really git gud.
If it didnt require skill any button masher with over an hour in the game would be godlike, but that is not the case.
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Both sides take skill, and in my personal opinion people saying survivor takes no skill or that looping isn’t skillful are overlooking what survivors have to do.
Identifying the killer, addons, perks, teammates perks, tying loops together to maximize usage of every resource to the best of their ability. Obviously swf removes certain things but it just bugs me when people say looping takes no skill.
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You are correct. I am finally reaching my 1000 hours on survivor after 1000 hours as killer main and really diving deep into both sides and trying to master them, in my opinion, is when your skill in the game begins to multiply. People who play one side often think the other side lacks skill etc,... but I disagree.
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People like to make excuses how easy something is to justifiy nerfs for it, be it strong killer or correct use of dead hard.
I've already had tons of endgame chats where survivors complained how impossible it's to loop new bubba and how it's unfair that he can win loops now due to him beiing so fast. Same thing with the no counterplay, boring killer that forces you to pre-drop pallets. People dislike that some killers require different playstyles and refuse to acknowledge existence of counterplay or invalidate it by excuses like "pure RNG guessing" or "it's not interactive for survivors" when the interaction is there but it's not the kind they want, in other words, one that would be easy for them to do.
DBD takes a lot of skill to play very efficiently, for both sides equally. Even players who have thousands of hours still can make bad plays (some even consistently repeat them) so I doubt that any would seriously consider DBD to be easy to play casual game when there's so so so much to improve upon.
Also if I should pick the most skilled action for both sides, it's reading your opponet's next move. Anything from correct pathing prediction which is decently easy to hard ones like evading nurse's, deathslinger's, spirit's powers / landing them correctly when you play them.
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Compared to For Honor or other competitive games DBD require minimum skill to win games. Pretty casual game.
EDIT: ITS NOT BAD THO
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I am not saying this as a "I take more skill then you"...
The killer has to remember the items brought the offerings used
16 perks, 8 (potential) addons, map layout, where the gens are, potential survivor spawns, pathing to each gen
finding survivors, knowing what loops are killer favored and with are survivor favored, hitting them 2 times for a down knowing where hooks are and travel time
In the end this game is more on memory and reactions then straight up skill... there's a different form of skill in this game (knowing and doing are two different things)
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A lot of it is people pretending certain types of skill are "superior" to others. It's no different to someone playing a sniper class in a game that has one thinking raw mechanical aim ability is the #1 "real" skill while devaluing skills like positioning, game sense, team play and many more.
There's a lot of "softer" skills in DBD that aren't as flashy as hitting crazy hatchets or knowing all the weird tricks survivors can pull off. How to run tiles, chain tiles, reading your opponent's perks, any "pattern" they might show in their mindgames and more.
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What does prestige have to do with anything though? There's little advantage in that regard no?
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Situational awareness is still a skill. Getting a P3 outfit is an investment as it requires going through the bloodweb 3x. And using a perk like sprint burst in a way that benefits rather than hurts the team is a skill.
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Bloody clothes. Bendies blend better.
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All you have to do is play solo survivor these days and see how many cant last more than 10-20 seconds in a chase to realise that looping takes skill. Theres definitely something that seperates the pros from the beginners.
Granted some loops are ultra safe no matter what but other times you need to understand the killer and predict their next move or when they’re going to try and mindgame.
Also as survivor you need to know when to drop the pallet, or when you can save the pallet and link a nearby loop together to extend the chase. This is one that a lot of survivors seem to struggle with or dont want to risk leaving the safety of their pallet.
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She can be almost impossible to see in some areas. You just urban evade around the map with high stealth due to the cosmetics, then when you finally are found you get a free getaway to the nearest ultra safe pallet.
Its very easy to play imo.
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I've played Claudette enough to have prestiged to 3 so many times now but chose not to, I just don't see how the actual prestige level is of any advantage though is what I mean. I completely agree about the situational awareness and the perk utilization but other than having different outfits and a slightly increased chance to get rare items and add-ons in the blood web, prestige does little to add an advantage Imo.
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How is bloody clothes an advantage though? I also don't get what you mean by bendies blend better 😅 don't know all the lingo I guess sorry mate haha.
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People don't consider the context behind most things. Sure it might be easy to press the button that lets you dead hard, but are you confident the killer hasn't predicted it and is about to hit you anyway? Same with Ghost Face, it might be easy to press the stalk button, but are you confident you can make the most out of it so you don't become a standard m1 killer?
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This game is more like chess... you go into a game with a plan... but some games takes that plan away and you're left to adapt
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Certain cosmetics make characters harder to see.
Claudettes prestige 3 outfit is known to be one of the best stealth cosmetics in the game, it tends to blend in with a lot of environments hence the term “Blendette”.
Compare playing prestige 3 claudette vs Ace in his golden nugget outfit, the cosmetics alone give one survivor a large advantage at evading the killer.
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Well dammmmmn eh, I didn't know that I thought most would be eye popping like most of the rarer outfits 😅🤦🏼♂️. Most tutorial videos I watched online way before starting to play said prestiging is a waste and just basically wipes your character. Thanks for letting me know 🤜🏻.
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You can’t really use the argument that “A survivor lasts longer in a chase than B survivor therefore A survivor is the more skillful one” because you have the Rank 20 survivor that wastes all the pallets but lasts three minutes due to using all the resources. Then the Rank 1 survivor gets in a chase a downed in 20 seconds because they had no resources to work with since the Rank 20 used all the pallets early in the game.
Skill equals a variety of things like how well you can read the killers movements, preserving pallets (as you said), intertwining strong loops together (as you said), evading the killer, breaking chase, knowing the killers perks, etc...I agree that basic looping takes some skill but sometimes you can’t do anything in a chase because all the pallets were wasted by a random :/
And sometimes we just potato and go down in 20 seconds. Happens to everyone. Doesn’t mean the survivor is bad though.
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