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I love the ranking system!

Nothing like being a Rank 16 killer just trying to Challenges done and getting into games with nothing but Red 1 rank survivors EVERY game. It brings so much joy into my life getting pallet stunned, teabagged, flash lighted, body blocked, hooks dropped, totems gone in 30 secs, teams. I woke up this morning and I couldn’t wait to get online and face it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again trying to get my last challenge done.

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  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713
    edited August 2020

    I don't see that it's out on anything but X-Box yet?

    P.S. Never mind, I see it's announced ingame today, must have just gone live.

  • Mikeasaurus
    Mikeasaurus Member Posts: 2,327

    There was a news post in-game saying it's now active on PC and Consoles so I assume it SHOULD be active on PS4, Switch and Xbox fully now. If it works that is, which I'm experiencing it's not too well.

  • LordRegal
    LordRegal Member Posts: 1,549


    It's out now for all things: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/173606/news-matchmaking-update#latest

    I'm willing to give it a week to get people where they belong...if it's still as bad as I've seen currently in a week...then yeah, it's bad.

  • Menwaalie
    Menwaalie Member Posts: 18

    I think its even worse then before.. launched game saw the nex matchmaking is now active , first match and this is what happend.

    Really strange imo...

  • SpaceCoconut
    SpaceCoconut Member Posts: 1,962

    This is what I'm thinking as well.

    I'm waiting until next week to see how it feels and what the forum threads look like before making a judgement call.

    Although they've said that the system was working in the background for months so we really shouldn't need to wait a week to see if it settles.

    No choice now though.. I'll give it a week before I join in on the mocking and disappointment.

  • LordRegal
    LordRegal Member Posts: 1,549

    Yep. i'm operating under the assumption that somehow none of the matches they were supposedly shadow tracking were applied, since that would make sense for what we're seeing. If it's still this bad a week from now...it's either not tracking games ever or it's totally wrong in its criteria.

  • kosmi
    kosmi Member Posts: 363

    Wait till mmr gets calibrated all starting from same ground. Ranks means nothing now. And there are some red ranks that have skills like rank 15 players since they only play swf groups and get their asses boosted.

  • WhyDecide
    WhyDecide Member Posts: 20

    Ok guys, hear me out

    I played killer only today with the new system (hag, about 10 games) and all of them were against red ranks (i'm a hag main, so she's my strongest killer, i'm normally in high green to low purple ranks)

    All of the games were actually pretty balanced, i had no game were i couldn't down anyone (as before)

    In total a i had two games were everyone escaped, and both times i hooked all ppl once or twice, and the games took longer than 6 minutes

    All other games were just as balanced (with one exception were i farmed because two DCd in the beginning but thats a different story)

    I had some 4k's, but most games were hatch or i got 2 ppl before they were out


    Than again, i played killer so....

  • judge_fist
    judge_fist Member Posts: 114

    Then you've got the opposite of the spectrum for me. Rank 1 killer going against yellow and gray ranks about half the matches. The other half is just a rainbow of ranks. Now I have to let people go in chase's. Give free unhooks and free heals. I can't play to the full potential now for fear lower ranks are going to dc and deny me hooks bp and actually playing and enjoying the game. Their not used to the rank 1 madness and I dont blame them. I miss playing red rank battle hardened swat teams. At least they dont typically dc when I do well. I've got to agree 100% the ranking system is jacked up right now.

  • lordtomato
    lordtomato Member Posts: 204

    I just make a discussion to complaining about the match-making and that ph**king Mandytalk (A Dev?) just banned me for "Profanity language" , I already replace f**king swf to phucking swf and tell devs to have a research on players before making some huge changes, she is such an a**hole, (Yo Mandy If you are watch this s**t you can silent me cuz I still have a reddit and steam forum), devs never listen to those truth that pro players suggested. They are just dumb enough to though "Rank doesn't indicate yoru skills". The sever is already laggy for killers to hit through windows from 2 m away and some dumb addons and metas, you still want to eliminate all those experienced players who try to only played the game??????

  • judge_fist
    judge_fist Member Posts: 114

    I'm really hopeing it's just an issue of people taking time to fall into their bracket and it just needs more time.

  • kosmi
    kosmi Member Posts: 363

    Well top tier surv will have problems. But mmr needs few game per killer to get them at least to close range of the survs they can go agains.

  • judge_fist
    judge_fist Member Posts: 114

    I'll give it time but if things don't level out within a few weeks dbd is gonna be in some trouble.

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744

    It went live today however they said it had been running in the background being tested welp the tests failed just like this system is failing.

  • Cheers
    Cheers Member Posts: 3,426

    Some people clearly don't know how MMR works 🤦‍♂️

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420

    Why am i not surprised the community has no idea how MMR works and that the ranks will have no bearing on their skill level. There are really bad Rank 1s. No wonder BHVR wants to hide the Rank.


    Play more game’s. Let your MMR settle. This is a system that evolved and grows. It won’t instantly know your MMR as it wasn’t fully in place. Even if they did keep track of what they thought your MMR was, because it wasn’t being used it’s useless to judge it until it’s been active for a few weeks.


    calm down you clowns and let your MMR settle. I’m sorry your skill level is below the default MMR. It’ll be Ok.

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744
    edited August 2020

    Or some people do understand how it works and were told that the system was tested in the background and we would not start at default ranks but HOWEVER we were lied to yet again now baby players are paying the price and for what so they can see how unfun higher ranks are gonna be and leave the game bravo.

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2020

    You won’t start at default. But because it wasn’t queuing you based on your MMR then your Rank will be messed up until you play for more than an hour are start bitching like an entitled child.


    Try to use some common sense here. Your MMR can’t be fully accurate if the MMR match making wasn’t turned on

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744
    edited August 2020

    Hey buddy i played all day today right won every single game and im still getting borderline babies maybe know your facts before commenting aight bud i didnt lose not one game at all today. So either


    1.) Something is wrong.


    2.) Behaviors system failed


    Both seem very likely. People like yourself can't comprehend what exactly people are complaining about. New players are being trashed every game and not one single word has even been said by the developers NOT ONE.

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420
    edited August 2020

    Omg. ALL DAY?! Why didn’t you say so. Lord that changes everything. An entire day!! Geese that’s like a while life time of MMR that should be calculated. fAiL MmR hurp derp.


    Stop being a child and realize it’ll take more than a week for it to balance out.

  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744
    edited August 2020

    You do realize the developers said it takes 10 games to find your mmr right? Or are you always this delusional? Also im probably old enough to be your father so dont call me a child alright kiddo :P


    Having constructive feedback is important and my feedback is the system sucks its not placing people correctly clearly its not if im getting people who have 2 hours to my 4k after 10 games.

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420

    So the devs are right about how long it’ll take for their system to find your MMR but are some how wrong when it comes to applying it? How convenient for you. When it suits your specific complain it’s magically whichever way you want it to be.

    Its going to take time.


    And they need to be showing the MMR.

  • xenofon13
    xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241

    Rank doesn't matter, new mmr saved the day.

    Poor man.


  • MonsterInMyMind
    MonsterInMyMind Member Posts: 2,744
    edited August 2020

    You do understand when debating you bring your point forward if it matches what you're talking about or did you miss how debating works if the developer said 10 games and its taking a week for it to place people correct SOMETHING is wrong.

  • DisappointedUser
    DisappointedUser Member Posts: 420

    Its quite possible something IS wrong. But seriously it hasn’t even been a week.


    The other thing to keep in mind is that after some time an MMR system should result in a 50% win / 50% loss ratio. I suspect this is going to really upset people to lose half their game’s.

  • Crap_Martini
    Crap_Martini Member Posts: 50

    Sadly I think this system only really works if you have a solidly consistent player base with little to no casual players. (I'd say I fit casual player)

    Either system is flawed but sadly, whilst the both system works in theory, will definitely suffer from constant fluxtuation due to having to cope with three essentially different queuing systems.

    As a solo survivor, I would imagine wait times are longer as you are either waiting to join a 3 man swf group of similar level or 3 other survivors of similar level as well as waiting for a killer of similar level.

    I would think swf queue is the medium wait if you're 2/3 man.

    4 man and killer being the shortest because you're waiting for a team/killer similar to your level.

    Therefore I think 4 man swf and killer will adjust well, with 4 man swf seeing best results. Solo, 2/3 man and killer will probably see constant flux.

    I only get a few hours an evening, (if I'm lucky and the reason I fit casual player status) to play any game, so my main concern is the wait times between matches.

    They just need a casual mode and a ranked mode and have a queue system that allows searching of both types of match or one type.