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Is ds canceling a banable bugabuse

Scourge
Scourge Member Posts: 145
edited September 2018 in General Discussions
so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

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  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    edited September 2018
    It's not a bug abuse. Also, it's like rolling a die. It needs luck and precision to make the ds fail. I don't see why it is getting fixed, but it's getting fixed anyway in the the next patch. I do it all the time. And as it is getting fixed, now you can stick to dribbling.
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  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526
    edited September 2018

    DS should be bannable to be honest.

    In all honesty - people in here calling it an exploit are incorrect, for the most part.
    People used to hit randomly to try and cause some disorientation with the skill check, it just so happens that if you hit it at the same time as DSTRIKE (Impossible to time as the skill check is random on the bar) then it can cause the animation on the survivor side to fail and them not actually using DS.

    You have to be incredibly lucky to hit it and it isn't at all consistent so I wouldn't worry about it.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Scourge said:
    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    This is the only way how DS can be countered, please bann all killers that dare trying to use that counter where you have to hit an invisibel great skillcheck without soudn notification :wink:

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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Vankruze said:

    @Master said:

    @Scourge said:
    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    This is the only way how DS can be countered, please bann all killers that dare trying to use that counter where you have to hit an invisibel great skillcheck without soudn notification :wink:

    well there's dribbling, slugging and Rancor soon to be.

    Dribbling only works if the survivor wasnt aware of the hooks closeby and went down at the wrong time.
    Ever tried running a slugging strategy? Its insanely hard to pull off and against a competent SWF you just wanna DC.

    Uhm yeah sure, ignore DS for the whole match and wait until gens are powered and the game is almost over, then you can "counter" it, assuming that there is only 1 DS in the game :wink:

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    If you mean swinging while hitting dstrike no its not bannable.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Vankruze said:

    @Master said:

    @Scourge said:
    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    This is the only way how DS can be countered, please bann all killers that dare trying to use that counter where you have to hit an invisibel great skillcheck without soudn notification :wink:

    well there's dribbling, slugging and Rancor soon to be.


    Can´t wait for Rancor on all my killers. I´ll take that Deceisive Strike and shove it right up their A..!
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:
    Vankruze said:

    @Master said:

     @Scourge said:
    

    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    This is the only way how DS can be countered, please bann all killers that dare trying to use that counter where you have to hit an invisibel great skillcheck without soudn notification :wink:

    well there's dribbling, slugging and Rancor soon to be.

    Can´t wait for Rancor on all my killers. I´ll take that Deceisive Strike and shove it right up their A..!

    Only works on the obession though.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Master said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Vankruze said:

    @Master said:

     @Scourge said:
    

    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    This is the only way how DS can be countered, please bann all killers that dare trying to use that counter where you have to hit an invisibel great skillcheck without soudn notification :wink:

    well there's dribbling, slugging and Rancor soon to be.

    Can´t wait for Rancor on all my killers. I´ll take that Deceisive Strike and shove it right up their A..!

    Only works on the obession though.

    That´s enough for me. Either i trigger the DS asap or i leave that survivor alone until the gates are powered. Save the best for last will work well with Rancor.

  • Ihatelife
    Ihatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    No, you don't get for this ban, cause you didn't know about it

  • Grey87
    Grey87 Member Posts: 346

    They fix it next patch that comes this month , so ya won't be able to abuse it anymore , dw.

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    It's not. It takes luck to cancel it out. It is getting fixed in the next patch though. It's probably happening because of the DS nerf (Killer won't drop you when the perk is activated) in the mid-chapter patch.

  • TheDarkLycan
    TheDarkLycan Member Posts: 435

    @Scourge said:
    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug

    the DS burn tactic isnt bannable so i doubt this is.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    Is gen tapping a banable bugabuse

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @RSB said:
    Is gen tapping a banable bugabuse

    Is not bug abuse. lel.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:
    Is gen tapping a banable bugabuse

    Is not bug abuse. lel.

    So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:
    Is gen tapping a banable bugabuse

    Is not bug abuse. lel.

    So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.

    Love how you turn the survivors logic against them. :smile:

  • TheMidnightRidr
    TheMidnightRidr Member Posts: 599

    I understand that it is considered an exploit, but (and I'm not trying to be biased) killers have had the short end of the stick for nearly the entirety of the life of the game and it wasn't until just recently that it started to become a little more difficult for survivors. With all of the frustration and pain killers have had to endure, and the fact that survivors will complain for losing a FREE second chance after being chased down, it's all just kind of petty.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @TheMidnightRidr said:
    I understand that it is considered an exploit, but (and I'm not trying to be biased) killers have had the short end of the stick for nearly the entirety of the life of the game and it wasn't until just recently that it started to become a little more difficult for survivors. With all of the frustration and pain killers have had to endure, and the fact that survivors will complain for losing a FREE second chance after being chased down, it's all just kind of petty.

    It is not an exploit, just like gentapping isnt

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    Scourge said:
    so i already asked this on steam, but didn’t get a really good answer to that.

    yesterday i played against a streamer, he was obsession and ds user, to maybe confuse him i turned around and swung random into the air, causing some bug where he desicive stricked me but didn’t fall of. In the endgame chat he framed me of bug abuse and said he will report me to not_queen for it. Do i now actually have to fear a ban because i tried to confuse my opponent?

    yes theres is video proof of me „abusing“ this bug
    Nope... It's not your fault that's a bug and plus every killer does it just to make them miss. They're just salty because their second chance failed. I'm a Survivor main and I can't wait for the DS nerf to actually happen.... So many boosted survivors need it because they're bad.
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526
    edited September 2018

    @Master said:

    @RSB said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @RSB said:
    Is gen tapping a banable bugabuse

    Is not bug abuse. lel.

    So is not hitting while being DS'd, thank you, my unbiased, topskill friend with 2k IQ.

    Love how you turn the survivors logic against them. :smile:

    This is my first comment in this post - saying it isn't an exploit.
    what have your replies got to do with anything? LOL

    Very clever boys, next.

    Is it ironic that you mention a 2K IQ to mock me and then make it blatantly obvious that you didn't read the thread and only came here to attack me and make yourself look stupid in the process?

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  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    There is a way to cancel dstrike 100%, its nothing about luck, it just akes a game or 2 to find out how.
    Imo shouldnt be bannable, there should be a risk when bringing a perk like dstrike which besides this theres no risk involved.

  • MichaelAMyers
    MichaelAMyers Member Posts: 292

    Nope, not bannable.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    Wait since this is question asking is dribbling a exploit or just a f you to the ds user
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @redsopine1 said:
    Wait since this is question asking is dribbling a exploit or just a f you to the ds user

    It's a tactic and is not bannable, it's in the same vein as gen tapping. While some people might see it as scummy they're both fine to do if you want too.

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    No, it's not.

    Dropping them enough times will make them automatically wiggle out anyway. Yes, it does give you some extra distance, yes, it's a little cheesy, but cheese isn't against the rules.

    Except Gorgonzola. I will not allow that in my house.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Peanits said:
    No, it's not.

    Dropping them enough times will make them automatically wiggle out anyway. Yes, it does give you some extra distance, yes, it's a little cheesy, but cheese isn't against the rules.

    Except Gorgonzola. I will not allow that in my house.

    Gorgonzola is just plain wrong to have in your house.

  • redsopine1
    redsopine1 Member Posts: 1,437
    powerbats said:

    @Peanits said:
    No, it's not.

    Dropping them enough times will make them automatically wiggle out anyway. Yes, it does give you some extra distance, yes, it's a little cheesy, but cheese isn't against the rules.

    Except Gorgonzola. I will not allow that in my house.

    Gorgonzola is just plain wrong to have in your house.

    Maby that's what the clown uses to make people gag
  • MhhBurgers
    MhhBurgers Member Posts: 1,758

    Hitting while DS skill check SHOULD in fact be bannable if you are stupid enough to admit that you're doing it because you know it's bugged. That would still fall under the plain old "exploiting bugs for advantage" book which has been bannable in every game ever. Tho BHVR would never ban for it because survivors also exploit the killer hitbox during loops. (yes I do that too) and enforcing this rule strictly would just be death for the game right now