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Man for people thinking Freddy is bad

Usui
Usui Member Posts: 531

He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

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  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    Not really, people just don't want a 24/7 tunnel fest which is why they usually kobex3 and leave the match. Unfun game design, boring to play, boring to play against. Nothing exciting about the killer at all he's the worst of all of them in design imo.

  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    powerbats said:

    For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.

    He's anti-Nurse in my opinion.

    Everything she's bad at, he's good and vice-versa.
  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    Boring to play, boring to play against and you need the stupid double block add ons to make him a tiny bit viable. Useless killer

  • AmorePrincess
    AmorePrincess Member Posts: 220
    I like freddy. He was the first killer I decided to p3. But yeah, some matches he gets totally outplayed, but all killers can get outplayed depending on the team you face.
    Still really excited to see his re work, because as much as I love him, he still needs some attention. 

    And I am red rank survivor, and I face many Freddys that knows what they are doing. Like someone said, its all about dedication.
  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    I like freddy. He was the first killer I decided to p3. But yeah, some matches he gets totally outplayed, but all killers can get outplayed depending on the team you face.
    Still really excited to see his re work, because as much as I love him, he still needs some attention. 

    And I am red rank survivor, and I face many Freddys that knows what they are doing. Like someone said, its all about dedication.
    Agreed. It all depends on how much effort and time a person puts into Freddy. As a Rank 1 Freddy player, biggest advice : Don’t be in a hurry to chase someone. If you know there are multiple people in he area, SLEEP EVERYONE, then chase someone. 
  • MojoTheFabulous
    MojoTheFabulous Member Posts: 2,015

    He is exhausting to use, has poor defence and is quite RNG reliant. Sure, you can do good with him but he is still pretty bad.

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273

    He is exhausting to use, has poor defence and is quite RNG reliant. Sure, you can do good with him but he is still pretty bad.

    I’ll agree with this. The level of micro-management with him is exhausting.
  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Yes, yes, everyone has reached rank 1 with perkless Freddy.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Tsulan said:
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

    This just means that it's to easy to reach rank 1.

    It is, for both sides

  • Killigma
    Killigma Member Posts: 372

    In my experience Freddy is bad because he is reliant on his add ons to even stand a chance. Playing a basic Freddy is a nightmare, no pun intended. And to be honest, it just shows how reaching rank 1 is easy if you put in enough time. That be said, hats off to people that can actually do well with Freddy and 4k, you little masochists.

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  • TheMidnightRidr
    TheMidnightRidr Member Posts: 609

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.

    lmao there's nothing to "master" about him
    he's a standard M1 killer who has to wait 7 seconds to hit anyone
    he's garbage and you'd be better off playing any other killer

    So he has to wait 7 seconds to hit someone, how's that any different than a killer having to chase someone for 7 seconds if not more to get them? Since once they're in the dream world if eh's running a reduced skill checks/longer timers addons they're screwed. They either have to find someone to get them out or find a gen and hope he doesn't come after them.

    If he's such garbage why do so many rank 1 killers play him and get 4ks pretty consistently with him?

    I have recently been playing a lot of rank 1 survivor and I very, very rarely encounter a Freddy. The only time I do is when I am playing SWF with lower rank friends which in part make us face lower rank killers. The only thing strong about Freddy is his tracking ability. He doesn't have anything else to aid him in the chase or any ability to end it quicker unless he has certain exposing perks.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.

    lmao there's nothing to "master" about him
    he's a standard M1 killer who has to wait 7 seconds to hit anyone
    he's garbage and you'd be better off playing any other killer

    So he has to wait 7 seconds to hit someone, how's that any different than a killer having to chase someone for 7 seconds if not more to get them? Since once they're in the dream world if eh's running a reduced skill checks/longer timers addons they're screwed. They either have to find someone to get them out or find a gen and hope he doesn't come after them.

    If he's such garbage why do so many rank 1 killers play him and get 4ks pretty consistently with him?

    Inquiring minds want to know: where's the data?

  • ASpazNamedSteve
    ASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,784

    He's oddly fun to play. I dunno if it's the challenge of him or what, but I still play him a decent amount.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772
    edited September 2018
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.



    The main reason freddy sucks is because hes relaint on slowly wearing dowm the survivors for the endgame. The problem is generators are completed too fast for him to make a decent dent.

    If he gets all his remember me tokens and a dead obsession, throw in noed or just get all the remaining survivors in the dream abd you've already won.

    The problem is his power having an incredibly low skill ceiling and being trash in a chase. Even doctor is better in a chase and he cannonly really counter vaults and unsafe pallets
  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited September 2018

    Yes, if played right he can be strong, his main problem imo is that he is anti-fun: he's the killer with the most potential to be bullied and his whole power asks survivors to loop him, since stealth and juking are in most of the case useless because of how his power works.
    That's a pity because I love the sound he makes with his weapon when he hits someone... I hope the rework makes him more fun for everyone.

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  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    I don't think he's bad...

    I know so.

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  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,617

    @Mycroft said:
    Well, we remember how it all started

    I'd like to see another one of those, for recent matches.

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  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093

    So i just had a match against Freddy. No wonder survivors think he´s OP. They behave like he´s a omnipresent being. I see survivors crouching all the time, even if they don´t hear the lullaby. They try to hide and don´t go for unhooks, because he could be everywhere.

    Conclusion = survivors think Freddy is strong, because they behave like noobs.
    This was on rank 8...

  • Iceman
    Iceman Member Posts: 1,457

    Freddy was the worst killer til the Spirit, now she is the queen

    She hasn’t even been “officially” released yet, maybe your opinion will change then. 
  • Kalec84
    Kalec84 Member Posts: 495

    They don't share them anymore, also many ppl said those were fake/incorrect

  • Kalec84
    Kalec84 Member Posts: 495

    @Tsulan said:
    So i just had a match against Freddy. No wonder survivors think he´s OP. They behave like he´s a omnipresent being. I see survivors crouching all the time, even if they don´t hear the lullaby. They try to hide and don´t go for unhooks, because he could be everywhere.

    Conclusion = survivors think Freddy is strong, because they behave like noobs.
    This was on rank 8...

    This is basically what i think u_u

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @powerbats said:

    @yeet said:

    @powerbats said:
    For most people he's bad, but for those that will dedicate the time to playing him and mastering his full potential he does pretty good at rank 1. He's like Nurse only he's way less forgiving of mistakes on your parts as a killer.

    lmao there's nothing to "master" about him
    he's a standard M1 killer who has to wait 7 seconds to hit anyone
    he's garbage and you'd be better off playing any other killer

    So he has to wait 7 seconds to hit someone, how's that any different than a killer having to chase someone for 7 seconds if not more to get them? Since once they're in the dream world if eh's running a reduced skill checks/longer timers addons they're screwed. They either have to find someone to get them out or find a gen and hope he doesn't come after them.

    If he's such garbage why do so many rank 1 killers play him and get 4ks pretty consistently with him?

    everything freddy does doctor does better.

  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Survivors are really digging deep to try and stop any and all killer buffs, huh? Now Freddy is an OP R1 killing machine? I just don't know about this community any more.

    they're either being intentionally disingenuous (most likely) or are huffing paint thinner

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    @Mycroft said:

    Let's ask the community expert. You know, the one that has a hotline straight to Behaviour that they always listen to.

    You're pathetic.

  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,222

    The thing I found playing Freddy is that you can't play him like a normal killer. If all you do is sleep someone, chase them, hit them, down them, hook them, he is awful. You have to be able to juggle multiple survivors at once with DW. The fact you can see them means you can keep tabs on them, so your goal should be to sleep them and keep them slept. The more of them slept and the longer they are slept, the more likely it is you will win. You also have to know when to chase and when to hit. Sometimes it's better to just sleep someone and let them go. Near the end of the game it becomes more and more difficult to wake up if you aren't injured.

    And while it's true that Freddy is quite weak without add-ons, he has what is IMO the strongest add-on in the game: Class Photo. This replaces all tracking/aura perks and makes it so that if you find 1 survivor you find everyone. It is impossible to hide from CP if Freddy knows what they are doing, and if you use it right then you should be able to sleep multiple survivors at once. He is also the only killer that can really make use of Dying Light because he's the only one with tools to find the obsession super fast (Black Box for one, but CP is still better in this regard and doesn't waste an add-on slot). If you can proc DL (while using CP) before they finish 4 gens you will basically win the game. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to finish gens, because the moment you see them go to wake up, you sleep them and find everyone again and sleep them. Add in Ruin and it's even more impossible. Compound that with his free Deerstalker and it means the last one won't be able to hatch either.

    If you guys want an OP Freddy build, wait until the Spirit comes out and do this: Dying Light, Play With Your Food, Ruin, Haunted Grounds, Class Photo, Z Block. DL + Ruin to completely lock down the game. PWYF to make it easy to catch the obsession (as Freddy you can afford to break 3 chases because you can find them again, makes looping impossible). HG to protect Ruin and give you something to make survivors really scared (as I found with MYC, put Exposed on a survivor as Freddy and they will hide for 60 seconds and not do gens or anything). It also gives you a bit extra to chase the obsession, and if the circumstances are right you could just slug a bunch of people while they are Exposed. CP replaces the need for aura perks and makes it impossible to hide from him. ZBlock offsets CP's +2 second transition time and makes you look like a "normal" Freddy. All you need to do is sleep people at the start of the game until you find the obsession, break 3 chases with them (if you need), and put them on a hook. Once you get that first hook it's game over because you can just tunnel them to death, or better use a mori to finish them. It will be IMPOSSIBLE to gen rush you with Ruin before you kill the obsession, and HG makes it impossible to kill Ruin super fast. Granted I don't have HG yet, I've been using Blood Warden, but I have never had a game get to the gates with this build. Most teams barely finish 2 gens before the obsession is dead, and MAYBE finish 1 more after, but then it's game over.

  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    @Tsulan said:
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

    This just means that it's to easy to reach rank 1.

    Oh I know. i never claimed it was hard to hit rank 1. That's why there's such a disparity in survivor play. One game i'm playing with gods the next game i'm playing with bots.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    I find it laughable that the same ones asking for proof are the some of the same ones that have commented in threads where people have posted rank 1. Both video proof and screenshot proof. Now it's back to the usual well it's easy to get to rank 1 excuse.

    It's always well post proof you've gotten to rank 1, person posts proof then it's well anyone can get to rank 1 it's easy. You lot always do the same thing, move the goalposts when you get what you asked for.Oh and speaking of proof.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQ6Vona0fY Oh look a top player is playing Freddy and he has a lot of videos of him doing it.

    I could go on but the proof is staring you in the face. Then there's all the posters on the forums that have shown them doing it both with and without perks. They were called out for proof and when they did it got the same response.

    Oh anyone can get to rank 1, rank means nothing etc, except when you use it to bash someone and call for proof it does.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646

    @Usui said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

    This just means that it's to easy to reach rank 1.

    Oh I know. i never claimed it was hard to hit rank 1. That's why there's such a disparity in survivor play. One game i'm playing with gods the next game i'm playing with bots.

    Than why would rank matter in your original post?

  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531

    @Zanfer said:

    @Usui said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

    This just means that it's to easy to reach rank 1.

    Oh I know. i never claimed it was hard to hit rank 1. That's why there's such a disparity in survivor play. One game i'm playing with gods the next game i'm playing with bots.

    Than why would rank matter in your original post?

    Quote me where I said rank mattered? The point is freddy isn't as bad as everyone seems to think when he sees play even at rank 1, which is considered experienced survivors. Are you a moron?

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  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 646
    edited September 2018

    @Usui said:

    @Zanfer said:

    @Usui said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Usui said:

    He sure does see a ton of play at rank 1.

    This just means that it's to easy to reach rank 1.

    Oh I know. i never claimed it was hard to hit rank 1. That's why there's such a disparity in survivor play. One game i'm playing with gods the next game i'm playing with bots.

    Than why would rank matter in your original post?

    Quote me where I said rank mattered? The point is freddy isn't as bad as everyone seems to think when he sees play even at rank 1, which is considered experienced survivors. Are you a moron?

    You imply it by saying "rank 1" why would you state rank if it mattered or not than?

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,525

    @powerbats said:
    I find it laughable that the same ones asking for proof are the some of the same ones that have commented in threads where people have posted rank 1. Both video proof and screenshot proof. Now it's back to the usual well it's easy to get to rank 1 excuse.

    It's always well post proof you've gotten to rank 1, person posts proof then it's well anyone can get to rank 1 it's easy. You lot always do the same thing, move the goalposts when you get what you asked for.Oh and speaking of proof.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQ6Vona0fY Oh look a top player is playing Freddy and he has a lot of videos of him doing it.

    I could go on but the proof is staring you in the face. Then there's all the posters on the forums that have shown them doing it both with and without perks. They were called out for proof and when they did it got the same response.

    Oh anyone can get to rank 1, rank means nothing etc, except when you use it to bash someone and call for proof it does.

    My favourite is when they say its easy to get to rank one and then you ask them if it's so easy to get to rank one why are you complaining it's so hard playing against rank ones, it should be the same all around, then they stop replying :(

  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    You see rank 1 Freddy's because those are good, experienced killers playing. I'd like to think any killer with 1000-2000 hours of playtime can hold rank 1 with any killer effortlessly. He's just a derped down version of any other M1 killer and any player with knowledge/skill with mechanics in this game can 4k on any killer. I see it all the time.

    Freddy is a bad killer. He's the only killer that can sit, watch a gen be completed and get a pallet slammed in his face by the same survivor simultaneously. You can sleep a survivor and watch them run around in a loop, tap a gen and skill check out of dream state before you can even hit them. You can sleep 2 survivors on the same gen, chase one and 10 seconds later see the other survivor you slept has woke up. Survivors absolutely disrespect Freddy.

    In my second week of this game, I played Freddy and OWNED with him in high ranks. I managed to get down to about rank 8 with Freddy and that's when survivors really started to know how to play against Freddy. That's when I started giving Billy a try. I never looked back after switching to Billy. There's just not enough time in a match to effectively kill with Freddy.