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More points when DC

Does a killer gain less points when a survivor disconnects when first hooked? Does the same apply if they DC the second time they’re hooked (struggle phase)?
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  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 567
    edited September 2018 Answer ✓
    And how many points for a sacrifice assuming you hook the survivor 3 times?
    625 for a DC, 500 for the act of hooking them, 200 for reaching a new hook stage, 1000 for a mori.

    So the first hook gets you 700 (500 for hooking, 200 for hook stage 1). The second and third hooks get you another 700 each, for a total of 2100.

    The most sacrifice points you can get for a single survivor is 2400, by hooking them twice and then killing them with a mori (500 + 200 + 500 + 200 + 1000).

    If someone is one-hooked and dies, you get 1100 (500 + 200 + 200 + 200). If they're two-hooked and die, you get 1600.

    The only way to get max sacrifice BP without a mori is to three-hook all four survivors. If you mori two of them on the last hook, you can skip one hook stage on another survivor. If you mori 3 of them on the last hook, you can one-hook the last guy and still get max Sacrifice.

    And to answer the original question, you get fewer points for a survivor DC than you would get for hooking them a single time.
  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    edited September 2018 Answer ✓

    @megaweenieman said:
    So it’s always a benefit to the killer when a survivor quits at any moment of the match is what I’m gathering?

    In terms of actually winning, absolutely. It's going to make the rest of the game significantly easier.

    In terms of points, sorta'? It gets really nebulous. You could get more points off of them if they stayed, but the game is also going to be harder. It's really impossible to put an exact value on it. DC = lump sum up front for no effort, if they stay you have the potential to get more points but you have to put more work in. (You get points for finding, chasing, hitting, etc.)

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  • megaweenieman
    megaweenieman Member Posts: 323
    And how many points for a sacrifice assuming you hook the survivor 3 times?
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @megaweenieman said:
    Does a killer gain less points when a survivor disconnects when first hooked? Does the same apply if they DC the second time they’re hooked (struggle phase)?

    A killer gets 625 per DC, i.e. if all survivors DC instantly because you put in a mori or sth, you get 2,5k lose all your addons and offerings. Seems fair, isnt it? :wink:

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  • megaweenieman
    megaweenieman Member Posts: 323
    Esheon said:
    And how many points for a sacrifice assuming you hook the survivor 3 times?
    625 for a DC, 500 for the act of hooking them, 200 for reaching a new hook stage, 1000 for a mori.

    So the first hook gets you 700 (500 for hooking, 200 for hook stage 1). The second and third hooks get you another 700 each, for a total of 2100.

    The most sacrifice points you can get for a single survivor is 2400, by hooking them twice and then killing them with a mori (500 + 200 + 500 + 200 + 1000).

    If someone is one-hooked and dies, you get 1100 (500 + 200 + 200 + 200). If they're two-hooked and die, you get 1600.

    The only way to get max sacrifice BP without a mori is to three-hook all four survivors. If you mori two of them on the last hook, you can skip one hook stage on another survivor. If you mori 3 of them on the last hook, you can one-hook the last guy and still get max Sacrifice.

    And to answer the original question, you get fewer points for a survivor DC than you would get for hooking them a single time.

    Perfectly explained! Thank you!
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    @megaweenieman said:
    Does a killer gain less points when a survivor disconnects when first hooked? Does the same apply if they DC the second time they’re hooked (struggle phase)?

    https://deadbydaylight.gamepedia.com/Bloodpoints#Bloodpoints_for_Killers Here's a complete list of bp and categories

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555
    edited September 2018

    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

  • megaweenieman
    megaweenieman Member Posts: 323
    So it’s always a benefit to the killer when a survivor quits at any moment of the match is what I’m gathering?
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200
    edited September 2018

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @megaweenieman said:
    So it’s always a benefit to the killer when a survivor quits at any moment of the match is what I’m gathering?

    Not sure if you call it benefit getting 2,5k BP and losing all your addons and offerings. Even a single common addon is more expensive

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

    Funnily enough, I played a round as doctor earlier for a daily and someone disconnected on me almost immediately. Although I actually did get the points.

    It might be a bug, I'm not sure, but I get them pretty consistently.

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

    Funnily enough, I played a round as doctor earlier for a daily and someone disconnected on me almost immediately. Although I actually did get the points.

    It might be a bug, I'm not sure, but I get them pretty consistently.

    I think theres either a set amount of time the Survivor needs to be in the match or a flat out timer that ticks down to get the 1250.

  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 567
    Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:
    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.
    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

    Funnily enough, I played a round as doctor earlier for a daily and someone disconnected on me almost immediately. Although I actually did get the points.

    It might be a bug, I'm not sure, but I get them pretty consistently.

    Looking at the wiki, i see that back in 1.0.2 it was supposedly set to 625 Brutality and 1250 Sacrifice for a DC. I am pretty sure I've never gotten 1900 points per DC. Now to be fair, I've never paid much attention in my own matches. However...

    Here's a match with 1 DC and 1 "failed to join" where the killer got 1250 total quitter bonus.

    https://youtu.be/J4fTBnaXo8g

    Here's a match with 2 DCs and 1 "failed to join" where the killer also got 1250 quitter bonus.

    https://youtu.be/OL2u6HxCwtU

    In both cases, the quitter bonus at the end was for Brutality, not Sacrifice. There appeared to be no reward in Sacrifice points given for the DCs, whether in the final tally or at the time of the DC.

    It seems as though this scoring event is buggy.
  • Peanits
    Peanits Dev Posts: 7,555

    @Esheon said:
    Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.

    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

    Funnily enough, I played a round as doctor earlier for a daily and someone disconnected on me almost immediately. Although I actually did get the points.

    It might be a bug, I'm not sure, but I get them pretty consistently.

    Looking at the wiki, i see that back in 1.0.2 it was supposedly set to 625 Brutality and 1250 Sacrifice for a DC. I am pretty sure I've never gotten 1900 points per DC. Now to be fair, I've never paid much attention in my own matches. However...

    Here's a match with 1 DC and 1 "failed to join" where the killer got 1250 total quitter bonus.

    Here's a match with 2 DCs and 1 "failed to join" where the killer also got 1250 quitter bonus.

    In both cases, the quitter bonus at the end was for Brutality, not Sacrifice. There appeared to be no reward in Sacrifice points given for the DCs, whether in the final tally or at the time of the DC.

    It seems as though this scoring event is buggy.

    The one I'm talking about happens as the person disconnects, not at the end. Example here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbMdtuaT6l8

    Not sure why it doesn't go off sometimes, though. Maybe it doesn't work if they're already on the hook? Not sure.

  • Esheon
    Esheon Member Posts: 567
    Peanits said:

    @Esheon said:
    Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    @Master said:

    @Peanits said:

    You get sacrifice points (can't remember exactly how these are calculated, think it's 1,250 for someone who hasn't been hooked before), plus a flat rate of 625 just for the disconnect. The sacrifice points are something that's often forgotten about.

    In total, even if a survivor disconnects the first time you spot them, that's 1,875 points a piece. Total of 7,500 points if all four people do it (not counting chase points, etc.). IIRC, it was balanced around the old ranking system (waaaaaay back when the disconnect points were added), where 7,500 points would be enough to safety pip but not enough to pip. (i.e. If all four people leave, you won't be punished, but you also don't deserve to rank up just because four people left.)

    In the end, slightly less than you would get from hooking them, but you also save yourself a lot of time and the game turns into a 3v1 very early on.

    Thats wrong.

    If all survivors DC you are left with 2,5k BP. You only get 625 for the disconnect and not more if you havent hooked them yet.

    I know that for sure because it is only a week ago when a SWF sabotaged my mori daily :wink:

    That is also wrong- or at the very least, supposed to be wrong. The game will also award you 1,250 sacrifice points when they disconnect. Those points are awarded as they disconnect, rather than at the end with the quitter bonus.

    If you didn't get those points, that'd be a bug. You are supposed to get them.

    I have never received those points and trust me, during my days as doc main a lot of survivors DCed on me :lol:

    Funnily enough, I played a round as doctor earlier for a daily and someone disconnected on me almost immediately. Although I actually did get the points.

    It might be a bug, I'm not sure, but I get them pretty consistently.

    Looking at the wiki, i see that back in 1.0.2 it was supposedly set to 625 Brutality and 1250 Sacrifice for a DC. I am pretty sure I've never gotten 1900 points per DC. Now to be fair, I've never paid much attention in my own matches. However...

    Here's a match with 1 DC and 1 "failed to join" where the killer got 1250 total quitter bonus.

    Here's a match with 2 DCs and 1 "failed to join" where the killer also got 1250 quitter bonus.

    In both cases, the quitter bonus at the end was for Brutality, not Sacrifice. There appeared to be no reward in Sacrifice points given for the DCs, whether in the final tally or at the time of the DC.

    It seems as though this scoring event is buggy.

    The one I'm talking about happens as the person disconnects, not at the end. Example here:

    Not sure why it doesn't go off sometimes, though. Maybe it doesn't work if they're already on the hook? Not sure.

    Thats possible. It may also only happen if they DC before you hook them. The changelog for 1.0.2 on the wiki says:
    • Killers are now awarded sacrifice points if a Survivor leaves the game (1,250 Sacrifice Points)
    It's not very specific in terms of when it applies. Read directly, it seems as though it means "regardless of when they leave the game". That doesn't seem right, though. If that's the case, it would mean you get more Sacrifice points for a DC after two hooks than you do for a mori after 2 hooks.

    It's more likely there are unmentioned restrictions on when these points can be applied, and the wording that makes the most sense is:
    • Killers are now awarded sacrifice points if a Survivor leaves the game before they have been hooked (1,250 Sacrifice Points)
    That still kind of screws over the killer if they have someone who DCs immediately after they're hooked once. 1250 points if they DC on your shoulder, 700 points if they DC 3 seconds later hanging on the hook. Or conversely, if they DC just before you hook them the second time you get nothing.

    I think a better option would be to give points as though the survivor had been moried at the moment they died. So 1000 points regardless of when the survivor DCed or whether they had been hooked.

    Or a third option would be something I posted in another thread: Give everyone remaining in the match a 25% BP bonus for each person who DCs, not counting anyone with whom you are in a SWF group (to prevent 4x SWF boosting a newbie). After all, the other survivors are hurt much more by a DC than the killer.
  • megaweenieman
    megaweenieman Member Posts: 323
    I can honestly say that the most I get per survivor DC is 625. Never received more than that, and like some
    People said previously, it’s not even enough for a grey add on/offering 
  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,533
    Honestly both the Killer and remaining Survivors should get the quitter bonus because it’s an inconvenience to everyone.