can we stop with this mentality
everyday i see post about a killer being op or annoying. its really stupid to see you all complain at a killer because you cant loop it for 15 years each and every time you verse it. do u think its fun as a killer to loop someone and know you cant down them quick because all they have to do it move the opposite direction of you. spirit, deathslinger, nurse and pyramid head and the main killers i see that get complained about and is it a coincidence that there somewhat the best if not the best killers in the game. you see all of these killers require you to play different and thats what you dont like. oh no i cant do the same tactic for looping each and every killer. better complain so it gets nerfed because if the better killers do get nerfed it will get tp the point were its not even fun for survivor to loop. basically to sum it up the a small sentence, if we carry on ,like this the game will just be unfun for every side playing.
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Uh, you do realize that BOTH sides are always bitching about the other, right?
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And killers only want easy 4k. As pay to win freddy
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I’m sure survivor mains will stop complaining about killers as soon as killer mains stop complaining about gen rush/perks/items/exit gates/hatch/etc.
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I´m sure he does, but mentioning that doesn´t contribute to the topic.
I agree with op though in the sense that I also see a trend of people complaining about exactly those Killers that have ways to circumvent the looping game and thereby lessening the survivors advantage in chase. I´m nowhere near a top survivor but give me a carloop with a long wall jungle gym and it´s gonna be a long chase if the Killers has to use basic M1 or a chainsaw :P
If a player achieves at least a rudimentary understanding of how to loop it´s pretty easy to run the Killer for a long time even if the Killer is far more experienced. I think the majority of people has caught on to that and are now used to the leaned-back playstyle that looping provides for survivors . Now they don´t wanna be forced to leave their comfort zone (which I think is kinda dumg, doesn´t it get boring?)
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yea but with killer there never actually listened to plus survs moan about more dumb #########
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gen rushing, i agree is really stupid to listen to but perks. ds, inbreakble bt, i could go on. theres so many crutch perks were as killers got noed at its best i guess but even that can be countered
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DS and unbreakable are one time use only, just down them early and make the survs waste it, it's not that big of a deal.
Had some people try to abuse the DS on me and I still left with a 4k, some killers just make a fuss over nothing.
Just to add this, noed is a waste of perk slot which could be something else entirely, there's no point in using it.
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your obviously not that great of a killer if you think ds unbreakable can just be wasted easy at the start. that will lose you the game if you consistently eat the players ds or even slug him and allow unbreakable. and also dont even say its just a one time use like what. its only 4 players with 60 seconds of invulnerability if everyone has it. also using a single game for evidence is not making your point valid as i could say clowns not bad cause i 4k 5 gens on ormond against a crap squad, does that mean hes good. no
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Except I really do still win against squads, and way more often than I should, you judging my skill proves there's not much of a point arguing on you, is there?
Most of the people who try to abuse those two play in such a bad and stupid way that they get downed easily and I can achieve that for the most part, not only a single game as an example, but most of them.
If you lose games its mostly on your side, not on the perks, I've been playing this for years already.
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this discussion wasnt even on the perks, there broken. ask anyone other than yourself and they agree with me, ive put a lot of hours in to to understand that a good squad with them perks will annihilate most of the killers.
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Yet I was only responding to one of your posts which involved that topic, the whole SWF sweat thing is not as common as they're saying in the forums and they're generally rare, let alone full squads of people using the exact same builds which mean nothing in the long run.
Just gonna ask you, can we stop with this mentality?
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you see i dont like any of the mentality's that survivors and killers have, its just survivors moan about said killers being op when there not and its the survivor who has to learn to verse the killer properly instead all of them want to be able to loop every killer the same boring
way which will end up in this game not being fun for any of the sides. you see overall i see the bs that is said by both sides its just other than obvious dumb comments and gen rushing, killers are true for the most part whereas yea survs moan about this stuff that doesnt need a change like at all. also you never actually know but im pretty sure i verse a few swfs a day which isnt that rare.
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what you're saying is "shut up because your view doesn't align with my view, you are dumb if you don't think like a bot like me" dude gtfo
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You completely missed the point of what I'm saying.
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"yea thats defiantly what im saying" im not saying that both sides moan but killers are usually more correct, no im telling him to shut up.
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sorry, can u re explain it
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What I'm saying is the sweat squads is not as common as they're saying in the forums, not SWF itself, most of those are generally just screwing around and not taking the game as seriously as the others, yet you cannot touch SWF without hurting solo severely.
Yet I'm gonna also point out you're saying you see the BS in both sides when they're arguing, but you're also saying that killers are overall more correct, and that is kind of BS itself, you're taking sides.
Not every survivor "moans" about killers being "op", and overall looping is the only stalling mechanic they've got to sort of fight back the killer, it's in the game's design, not on the survivors themselves.
There's also the issue that most of the killers are irrelevant because others can do better, AKA Freddy, he's got all the powers you need in a single killer, so people get tired of seeing the exact same thing over and over again with the same builds, that's also on game design and it's up to the devs to change it at some point.
Survivors have got the "small pp build" because design allowed it to exist as such, and only the devs can change it aswell, if people want to use it there's nothing you can do about it either, taking sides does not change anything and making these kind of threads doesn't either.
The ones who control game design are the ones to eventually do something about it or not, whatever the others whine or argue about is pretty much meaningless.
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Both sides will complain about stuff that is strong and/or annoying. Good luck getting people to shut up about opinions they have on a forum which exists solely to discuss opinions.
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yea i took the side towards killers becuase everyones biased in some way and im biased a bit towards killer becuase its less balanced. probably like a 60/40 from killer to surv but i have my points, its not just random bs because i dont agree with an opinion.
also i know not every survivor complains about it but i see a lot of it which kinda is annoying when its normally them not knowing how to verse the killer there moaning about. also yea the chase and how it is important but survivors cant expect a 10 minute chase all the time like they do. this game is 1v4 and like it or not for a killer to win the survs cant have them chases.
also yea, i agree with the some killers make others irrelevant but if they just get nerfed then the amount of killers just gets decreased until all you see it nurses and spirits.
then theres the small pp build, its bs and i dont understand why its even still in the game because it just breaks the game for killers when even 2 people have it. but i just find it funny how its not needed to be ran but people run it anyway and then always complain when its against them.
then yea these arguments are pointless but i like to see others views on this stuff and if im wrong or right on a subject. obviouly im biased sometimes but ffs everyone is to a degree and thats what happens when u are arguing for a side u think is right vs the other
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i am not trying to shut everyone up, im just saying that if the killers keep getting changed into basic ######### m1 killers, this game will be unfun for killer and surv. people need to understand that you dont need to nerf something thats annoying. i hate myers, gf and trapper. doesnt mean they should be nerfed. i believe that myers and trapper need a buff to be fair
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To some extent, I do agree that it's stupid to want every killer to be an m1 chaser. However, extreme chase killers are genuinely awful to deal with, and invalidate almost anything you can do. Bubba, Billy, Huntress, Plague and even Pig are examples of chase-power killers that aren't the DBD equivalent of scraping your sensitive parts across broken glass.
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i just accidentally deleted the post i was gonna send so fml. ill just summarize it up.
i believe that there is killer like freddy that make others useless but if we keep complaining it will just make less veriety in killers as they wont wanna play the others. if spirit getts nerfed people will learn nurse and if she does then deathslinger or huntress and if they do it will just decrease until killers leave the game becuase you cant win.
yea chase is important but you survivors cant have these long chases you all want because at the end of the day this game is 1v4 and the killer needs to make up for that by killing insanely quick hints why spirit and nurse are played.
also yea i know i cant change small pp build and the devs are in the wrong for making that demon and still keeping it here but you would expect with the amount of people who complain about it, people would have the decency to not run it but yea why should they.
last of all, im biased a bit toward killer in like a 60/40 and thats because its the least balanced, also everyones a bit biased to some degree because thats how well people.
also the intent of this post was not to shut down all survovor mains or anything it was to get the idea into peoples heads that they might be bad against the killer and thats why there losing or maybe im wrong and there is a op killer but to be fair, we need one. its just i dont want the better killers to be nerfed because it will get to the point were killers cant even beat a decent lobby of soloq
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And what about playing a killer to have fun?Not only to 4k everygame?
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whats fun other than winning, actual question
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yea them killers are decent but they still get destroyed by a good team. i think that as little counterplay as they have, killers like slinger, pyramid, nurse and spirit still do have it. and heres why people dont like them. instead of looping the killer like the originals, you stall the killer for time like in a sense im going to go down its just a matter of when. im fine with that. obviously opinionated
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pretty sure this won't happpen
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Every killer in the game gets destroyed by good teams, no exceptions.
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except for spirit and nurse who get 2 kills which is what the game is balanced around apparently. pyramid is a possibility but i need to see a good pyramid player.
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Survivor only need to repair and camping palets , killer are more extresfull and need more skill... I can't understand the debate ... Talk with ozt , zubalet or angrypug , they like to play surv cause they can read chat while they are playing
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Killers don't want 2k, and the average is not 2k. It's 3k, and they want more and more and more.
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what about the survs that try. look at the streamer wima who got 383+ escapes in a row with his squad or what ever it was. how do killers beat that
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I don't quite think you know what a good team is. Let me give you a hint: 2 minutes 48 seconds.
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. the killer will camp one out and get a second in endgame. thats how it goes.
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First, that's the ######### way out. Second, Myers can do that. That's why it's the ######### way out.
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This is a weird mentality to have in a game that can be as random and unbalanced as DBD. I have more fun in a game against some damn good survivors who give me a run for my money that ends in a 2K and maybe a last second hook play near the gate. Than I do in a game where I absolutely stomp an entire lobby.
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