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For love of the Entity, slow Freddy down already please

Dpooly
Dpooly Member Posts: 474

I'm not saying he's OP, just think giving him a slowdown while using abilities (like every other Killer) or slowing his base speed down slightly (since he can Teleport) would make him a far more engaging Killer to face and more on par with the other Killers. As is, he already has way more in basekit than anyone else, but throw on BBQ and PGTW and it's pretty much a boring, one-sided match.

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  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652

    I'm sorry but that's absurd....

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    The dream world aesthetic has certainly worn down its welcome by now. At least its significantly nerfed compared to the original. Pretty sure survivors still glow white in the dream so its not too bad.

  • Dpooly
    Dpooly Member Posts: 474

    @immortalls96 Wow, what a thoughtful statement....

    @Tricks ...umm, pretty much every Freddy runs BBQ and aside from that, finding Survivors isn't that hard unless they're playing 'super immersion'

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,809

    nobody complained about billy and weve been complaining about spirit since her 2nd set of buffs lol

  • BaldursGate2
    BaldursGate2 Member Posts: 994

    Because pressing M1 the whole game is just too much for em.

  • Dpooly
    Dpooly Member Posts: 474

    @A0603 ...or maybe Freddy shouldn't get everything handed to him and earn his power like every other Killer. Maybe Freddy should be slowed down SLIGHTLY when using his power....like every other Killer. I'm not a whiny Survivor main, I play both sides and see the disparities among Killer abilities and am simply calling it out.

  • Yung_Slug
    Yung_Slug Member Posts: 2,238

    I think just a small slowdown when he sets his traps up would suffice, so he doesn't get to just mindlessly spam them for free. Other than that he's pretty balanced, just not very fun to play against (which nerfing won't fix).

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    Oh boy the strawman brigade has arrived!

    No one with a brain wanted Billy nerfed.

    No one with a brain wanted Nurse's base kit touched.

    Spirit is a touchy subject on here for some reason. She's controversial for sure.

  • Dpooly
    Dpooly Member Posts: 474

    Guess I need to clarify myself so the entitled 'Killer mains' (maining is stupid, play the whole game) don't have an aneurism...I am not suggesting some ridiculous hard nerf, just slowing him down, be it when using an ability OR just slightly reducing base movement speed.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    Don't worry, their catchphrases have been thrown out. There'll be no debate here.

  • KingFrost
    KingFrost Member Posts: 3,014

    Reduce his movement speed? That's stupid. His teleport has a huge cooldown, and it gives a giant warning every time its coming. He doesn't need to be a 110 killer. Maybe we should slow survivors down instead, since they can loop for days.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652

    To be fair your post isnt much better in that area, I mean..freddy unless your asleep is an m1 killer only, and even when asleep his snares are only the strength of addonless clown gas..freddy players need to place them carefully or they arnt going to get very far

  • Dpooly
    Dpooly Member Posts: 474

    @immortalls96 Except my post had an idea presented with some brief logic behind it so as not write an unreadable wall of text, yours consisted of "Yeah...noooo" without any explanation or counter argument. He has the Passive Sleep timer giving him free power as well as simply m1'ing someone to keep one of his powers charging...no one else has as much in basekit as him and it's a little ridiculous.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652

    Pig..demogorgan..they have 3 powers each..and the sleep timer makes sense thematically, plus the powers he does get arnt that great compared to some other killers..just keep him from being legion..good players deal with him just fine..granted pop works well on him but he needs a chase for that

  • Tricks
    Tricks Member Posts: 957

    Nurse was nerfed? I only just started playing her and she rocks lol. What was nerfed?

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814
    edited August 2020

    Her base kit used to be ultra spammable - no blink cooldown whatsoever, so even if the Nurse messed up she was back in the chase at full potential after her fatigue.

    On top of that, she had insanely powerful add-ons, the most famous of which was Omega Blink. People could just slap on both range add-ons and traverse the map in seconds, no downside. It also had the nasty side effect of making her blinks super fast, because it extended the range but not the time she stayed in the blink, so if she short-blinked it was practically instant traversal.

    And that wasn't even the first time she was nerfed.

  • Tricks
    Tricks Member Posts: 957

    I don't like using blink extenders personally, it messes up with her base blink distance prediction and you can get pretty close to zero cooldown on blink fatigue with addons though I havent experienced the Nurse pre-nerf so I guess I wouldn't know.

  • Dpooly
    Dpooly Member Posts: 474

    @immortalls96 Keep downplaying with your strawman argument, every killer has either one quality ability or a quantity of weaker abilities but they all have setbacks to using them and are punished for missing...Freddy has quality and quantity with no setbacks.

  • immortalls96
    immortalls96 Member Posts: 4,652

    Aside from having no power vs awake survivors with several ways to wake up ...that's not a strawman..thats your facts not being straight

  • Tricks
    Tricks Member Posts: 957
    edited August 2020


    Freddys dream snares / pallets are not slowed down by 'setbacks' while he lays them down because of a slew of other types of 'setbacks'.

    This is a good thing because he is not designed to be like every other killer, I mean how boring would the game be if every killer was the Trapper.

    Dream World 'setbacks'

    He has a limited amount of dream snares / pallets that are removed from their existing positions and replaced at their new positions if you use too many,

    If you are not in the dream world any of his snares / pallets will have zero effect on you you have absolute control over:

    • Find an awake Survivor and get them to wake you up
    • Go to the clock and wake yourself up
    • Blow up a gen and wake yourself up

    Other 'setbacks'

    He has the indisputably, absolute worst visible clarity / sight range of any killer hands down without question

    Once a gen is done he can no longer teleport to that area of the map

    Once all the gens are done he can no longer teleport to any area of the map

    He also has tells like the 'wind whisper' sound before he teleports to a gen, if your near a gen and you don't hear / see blood spewing from it you know you can safely go about your business (unless he has class photo addon then you don't know which gen he is going to)


    These are all indisputable facts that anyone who has any basic understanding of how Freddy works would know and as such cannot be denied.

  • Xyvielia
    Xyvielia Member Posts: 2,418

    Yeah, in the same vein of Freddy’s bbq/teleport, Spirit and Billy matches become monotonous with the bbq/phase bbq/sprint easy peasy back & forth... bbq incorporated into majority of builds tend to lessen the challenge and makes matches overly dull. I rarely use it.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    Just remove one of his powers. He should only have one, like everyone else.

  • HollowsGrief
    HollowsGrief Member Posts: 1,497

    You treat Freddy like you treat Clown, he isn't hard to win vs the only thing that puts him over clown is not having to reload his traps and the teleport, his chase is basically the same.

  • stoudbaker
    stoudbaker Member Posts: 130

    Its quite simple,dont get caught and work as a team to wake each other up.freddy is simple

  • IMilkNobody
    IMilkNobody Member Posts: 114

    i just want to be able to use every clock popping a gen every minute gets annoying