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Should Ebony Mori be nerfed?

Member Posts: 60


Should Ebony Mori be nerfed? 84 votes

NEVERRRRR
16% 14 votes
HELL YES !!!
60% 51 votes
Hmmmmm maybe
22% 19 votes

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  • Member Posts: 60
    edited August 2020

    If they get "reworked" it's going to end up being a nerf.

    Not like it needs a buff.

  • Member Posts: 376

    Yes, and don't forget keys.

  • Member Posts: 345

    Not while there is a trophy for killing all 4 survivors.

  • Member Posts: 5,804

    Moris as a whole just need a touchup, my thoughts was no more secret so the survivors know exactly how fierce they should play to stand a chance and add a purple mori that allows killing deathhook survivors

  • Member Posts: 517

    They need to nerf moris and keys at the same exact time. Honestly I feel like the game would be in a better place if they just straight up deleted them both imo. Making it so moris can only happen with devour/rancor, and hatch escapes can only happen as the last surv. That would remove so much frustration for the entire playerbase

    But with that said... yellow moris should be basekit. Because that's just fun and it has almost 0 impact on the actual match. Ivory and Ebony should get deleted though, as with all keys/addons that can open hatch imo

  • Member Posts: 9,713

    I've posted this before, but bascially Yellow Moris are useless (if you down the last survivor the probability is really high that you'll be able to kill them just by hooking them or letting them bleed out. The Yellow Mori adds pretty much no value.) The Green Mori is fine as is, one kill one hook early is a nice benefit but not overpowering. And the Red Mori is too swingy, getting more than one person killed one hook early is a potentially devastating momentum swing.

    So my suggestion is:

    Yellow Mori - Lets you kill any survivor that you've hooked twice (aka on death hook). Similar to Pyramid Head's Final Judgment. It's better than the current version but still not as good as the Green.

    Green Mori - Lets you kill one survivor that you've hooked once (no change)

    Red Mori - Both of the above. Lets you kill one survivor that you've hooked once and any survivor that you've hooked twice. It's not as powerful as the current version but still better than Green and it still lets you get the mori animation multiple times.

  • Member Posts: 848

    Yes. I'd honestly rather both moris and keys were deleted completely but we know it's not happening so.

    I feel like the green mori is so much more awful to play against than the ebony one though. Because with the ebony mori, killers usually know once they've hooked a survivor, they're dead the next time they down them, and since this effect is "cumulative" in a sense (because it affects every survivor in the trial), there's no rush to mori right away. Most ebony moriers don't tunnel you right away after your first hook to mori you. Green moriers, on the other hand...

  • Member Posts: 49

    Ebony Mori does need a rework (a nerf), I feel. I main survivors, so this may be a one-sided opinion, as I don't know how easy/hard it is for killers to play. But from my experience, Ebony Mori appears in half of my matches, and those matches always end very quickly - either because survivors DC to avoid the Mori, or because everybody is dead in five minutes. I've never won a single match against Ebony Mori, and that makes me sort of give up when I see it at the beginning of the match.

    For people who don't know what an opinion means, I'd like you to save the trouble of saying "a Mori is easy to counter, you are just a bad player!"

    But yeah, even really good survivors I know seem to struggle with it.

  • Member Posts: 236

    Nerfed to second or death-hook.

  • Member Posts: 2,416

    And people still act like both aren't OP in the same way and shouldn't be brought up together. Moris are definitely stronger overall, but both keys and moris help the team achieve they're objective far easier than they should.

  • Member Posts: 891

    Yeah, they definitely should. Tbh I never use moris as killer because they're just kind of boring. I do once in a great while if I'm in a bad mood or if I want to see a killer's mori because I've never seen it before (I'm behind on some of the killers since I took a long break from the game). But they're boring to play with and against.

  • Member Posts: 2,416

    You make it sound like I didn't say "moris are definitely stronger overall". Of course everything you said is correct, however what other survivor items do you know of that let 2-3 kills escape without getting all gens done?

  • Member Posts: 621

    reworked for sure.

    nerfed? not quite.

    maybe once everyones been hooked at least once the killing can comence

  • Member Posts: 44

    My friends and i said maybe 2 hooks instead of 1 but everyone being hooked before would be nice so tunnelers cant kill everyone after 1 hook and that person gets 2k points

  • Member Posts: 2,416

    I disagree, I think keys are far in a way better than any other item, not only do they let survivors escape they come with they're own host of other buffs. I believe the the association should exist, because they are both things that should be changed that cause the same problem. I see where your coming from though.

  • Member Posts: 44

    I dont know how you can change keys unless you remove them or make it a couple seconds to open the hatch

  • Member Posts: 5,352

    rework that don't make them useless.

  • Member Posts: 32

    Tbh I just wanna see an Ebony Mori rework. I'm chill with the other two. (Though I will admit, Green letting yoh kill someone immediately off hook is p nasty.)

  • Member Posts: 15

    I wouldn't nerf it just make it rarer to get out of the bloodweb

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