The Psychological Effect of DbD
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That can be said about anything though.
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yesterday i had a pretty discussion about this on some other topic on this forum and dude said get a spine, too much weak people on this world etc...
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Dead by daylight make me laugh every day, someone told me that laughing increase time of living, so I think dbd is very healthy and make me happier and extend my life's age.
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Well, we’re not machines. And we’re more driven by our id, which our superego has some rules about and our ego tries to make both happy. :)
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mental health is more complicated that telling someone to not allow a game to affect it.
I have witnessed what depression can do to a person on several different instances, and in my younger years I just thought they were weak.
It's hard to understand when some says they feel so alone and empty even though they are surrounded with friends and family and have a good life.
Someone I knew, had what I thought was a great life. Wife and kids and very successful. Very well put together in person. Turns out he was suffering from depression. The family kept it hush hush, but it seems that he shot himself in the head with a shotgun.
We see it with famous people who have everything in the world. They feel such an emptiness and it consumes them and they commit suicide.
I still do it here and there because i'm human and i still make mistakes..."suck it up, "get over it", "you're being too emotional", "it's not that big of a deal" and so on.
I try to be more conscious of mental health issues.
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If you could make some thorough research about it, make it public and wait some time until it is checked by other professionals (if they would agree with it of course) you could sue them for breaking your mental health. I mean only in USA - rest of the world judges would laugh at you.
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I fully understand that some people have issues, problems that run so deep that they are vulnerable to ill-effects from things that do not bother the majority at all. Mental health issues are not much different, in this way, than other types of health issues. Consider all the people with a dangerous allergy to peanuts. A single peanut, or even traces of them in other foods or the air of a restaurant, can kill them. I feel sympathy for them, and understand that they must be vigilant and avoid a thing which is toxic for them. To the rest of us, it is just food. Do you see where I'm going with this?
I addressed this before and the OP found my direct, pragmatic approach to be toxic. Why am I not surprised? Many people have an allergy to the truth. From the start, I advised that if a mental health expert told the OP that the game could be bad for him/her, then perhaps following the advice of that expert would be a good idea. I don't have a therapist. I don't have a peanut allergy. Do you see where I'm going with that? In my many years, I've listened to people state things almost exactly like that of the OP. While I'm sure some of them had the best of intentions, most of them did not. Such statements come with ulterior motives (too many for me to relate).
I could talk about how this line of thinking has been applied to Rock and roll, science, religion, politics, and so on but that would belabor the point. I'm going to narrow the focus to games and diversions. In the late 70s tabletop war gaming (toy soldiers) was transformed by a few enterprising souls into a new type of game. Mass battles with toy soldiers split off into small units which in turn evolved into role-playing games, going hand in hand with the popular rise and exposure of The Lord of the Rings in the United States. I'm talking, of course, about Dungeons & Dragons. If you were to combine all the essays and professional papers of the experts saying how role-playing games are dangerous for your mental health, you would have a hefty phone book. It turns out, that like anything else, role-playing is safe and fun for the vast majority of people, no matter how many things you massacre in the imaginary world. It is the people who already have a problem that should avoid it.
Sticking with the Lord of the Rings lesson, I think that games and diversions are like Lothlorien, the only problems you will find there are those you bring with you. This is also well-stated with the old saying, "where ever you go, there you are." I'm not trying to be toxic. I'm not trying to grandstand. I'm saying that people with problems should seek professional help, and follow the advice of their doctors. However, people who have problems should remember that these are THEIR problems, not ours. Dead by Daylight is a game, and an innocuous one at that. Blaming games for our problems, is not unlike the foolishness of blaming other people for our losses inside the game. Do you see where I'm coming from there? It is passing the buck. It is looking for a scapegoat. When I lose a game, "I" lost a game. If I have a issue in my real life, "I" have an issue in my real life. I take steps to deal with it.
What I'm going to suggest is that talking about mental health issues, which are serious, belongs in the Off Topic area. This is just my opinion. If people want to blame Dead by Daylight for their mental issues, well I suppose that makes it on topic here, but I think that does a disservice to the person stating it, the seriousness of the topic of mental issues, and is inviting people (like me) to point out (also with the best intentions) that most of us are NOT allergic to peanut butter.
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Yup
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It's if you let yourself down with it to much. Yesterday I got tunneled in like 5 Matches, sometimes even Spirits, Nurses etc. and I didn't really give a s*** anymore. Same as Killer, I just play the match. If they hold M1 hard or t-bag (which I especially don't care about tbh), run Meta Sweaty Builds. It got down to that point where I either risk my health for this game or I start to not give a damn about this games balance anymore and I rather chose the second option.
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You said it far better than I could. I've had trouble expressing my thoughts on this topic without being snarky. As above a person stated I said "get a spine"...I guess my military background has taught me tough love works and makes you stronger. I have a hard time empathizing when some fold so easy and then break. I do believe you make more sense with your peanut allergy analogy than I could just spreading tough love. I may come across as rude but I'm a product of my environment also meaning I have grown thicker skin over my years. Well said Moundshroud, you opened my eyes a little this morning
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Videogames are like any vice or hobby. They're not the root cause but do enable the behavior. It could be like painting, or it could be like alcohol. You're not suddenly a violent monster because you have had a few too many. That's all you at your core. You're the monster.
So yeah, playing killer won't make you a murderer. And survivor won't make you Bear Grylls. They're far too black and white. Doesn't explore the full spectrum of misanthropy. Although players will try to wring that out with their out of game interactions.
I try not to take it personally anymore. Constant screaming has given me a headache that doesn't go away anymore.
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You clearly know little about mental health.
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Tough love does not work, and does not make you stronger.
Foster care gave me PTSD. Not a super strong mental state. Don't tell people to grow a spine, grow up. Stop acting like a teenager and understand that people hurt for different reasons. And that trauma does NOT always make you better.
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Its sadly what happens when you play something like this game, it affects your mental health I hate to say it, but when I started playing this game, I thought I would really enjoy it, I still do now but my opinion on it has changed greatly, at times it is depressing to play this game and I mean I enjoy this game because its fun. Sometimes this game can be a major middle finger to you, and most of the time that is from the community, I am talking about toxicity from Survivors and Killers. There is a limit one can take before one thinks of suicide, someone I know who played this game actually hurt himself, not just mentally but physically. Its sad at this point. I wish there was more positivity and the game was more welcoming and kinder, but no we got a bunch of ######### ######### instead. Come on guys, your killing the game
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I don't think you need a therapist to understand how pvp scenario games can have an impact on your mental health.
If you wanted to go further, you could also argue that people who do have mental health issues perhaps shouldn't be playing this game.
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And right here... you just validated my entire point. Foster care gave you PTSD. Should a person with PTSD, and what must have been a clearly traumatic childhood background, (who has a Therapist) be playing Dead by Daylight? Is the problem DbD or could it be (as you just stated to us) the fact that you underwent something traumatic which left you with a vulnerability that most people don't have? And it is a fact; most people do NOT have PTSD. But by all means, please continue to tell us all sorts of things about your struggles, and then somehow bring that back around to how you felt the need to warn us of the "potential" dangers of playing this game.
Again, I don't mean to be snarky. I honestly believe that you have suffered in your life and are afflicted by the conditions you tell us about. It is for that reason I must REPEAT that if your Therapist (whom you are paying) told you that Dead by Daylight may not be right for you... that you should follow his advice. However, I highly doubt his/her advice to you included coming to talk about it here or warn us about it? Did it? If so, that would be really, really weird.
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I'm just here to offer free hugs to anyone who wants one, and send wishes thru the ether for good luck in life and in the Fog 🤗
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Your point was not proven at all. My PTSD does not deny me the ability to healthily play video games. Dbd never makes me have a seething rage as I've seen some. Who's to say I'm not speaking on people who say awful things in post game chat?
You don't know my generally stability. You know 2 facts, 1 that I go to these appointments and 2. A mental disorder.
Which, by the way, mental disorders are extremely common and you keep trying to make it out as very few people who are "off the rails" having these issues.
But the fact is, it's daily, it's in post game chat literally constantly, it's in posts here. People trying to vent their in game frustration, sometimes in negative ways.
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We need more people like this in post game chat. Not aggressive threats and steam -reps to discourage others.
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Whats good for you is FOR YOU...my life is different from yours I can tell, some people are born softer than others I guess...so ya know my wife was in foster care and she isn't fragile. So your basis for being offended is opinionated
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