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Why does everyone hate on pyramid head?
I recently picked him up, and I constantly get bad hate talk from the survivors after the match. I don't tunnel, I don't camp. I use my abilities exactly how they're supposed to. I don't see an issue with it.
Another thing I see is how people say PH isn't mobile enough, yet I'm consistently getting my 4 kills no problem. He has mobility, an anti looper, as well as the built in mori. I don't run add ons, or use offerings, and I run monitor & abuse, deathbound, noed, and bitter murmur.
I'd love some good comments.
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Survivors hate everything. You have chosen a killer that can sometimes hit them, and that is very rude and wrong of you. Just let them 4 =0 you while your in a corner
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2 reasons.
- the damned if you do, damned if you don’t scenario. Right now at pretty much most vaults, PH is guaranteed a free hit no matter what the survivor does. If they vault, they’re hit with PoTD. If they instead fake that they’re vaulting by doing a last second dodge, PH can immediately cancel RoJ and immediately do a regular hit to the survivor instead.
- The same thing that survivors do not like about Nurse: obstructions don’t matter, and can’t protect them.
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He can hit you at loops and make them unsafe.
Any killer that can do that will be hated by survivors.
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Its low level survivors mad cuz they depend on their perks like BT and DS. Dont mean any disrespect
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I don't hate on Pyramid Head but more I am terrified of him
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From a lore perspective?
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mostly because of his m2 to m1 change without having cooldown wich creates the "ill hit you or ill hit you" you decide in wich way. mostly that. now taht is gonan get "changed" because it wasnt such a big change at all.
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Play pyramid head without being able to fake your ability. If someone fakes the window you aren't allowed to cancel your ability. Then tell me how it feels. Pyramid head can get a guaranteed hit at EVERY loop without the help of dead hard or bt or sprint burst. Put me up against a killer using no power and I can assure you I can.loop them.just fine unless they are a pretty good killer. Put me up against a trash killer and tell them how to fake their ability and I can assure it womt.be hard for them to win. That's how b.s. his ability is.
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There is also 3: He hard-counters hook perks and can absolutely tunnel survivors with no punishment just by getting everyone tormented a single time.
Although that's a playstyle issue and not a killer issue and doesn't really apply in this case.
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I main Pyramid Head as my Killer and, although I'm awful at playing Killer, I get hate every now and then from Survivors.
I guess we just happened to like the "wrong Killer" that some survivors don't like to go against, but it's not on you or the Killer's design. People just dislike things because they can and are vocal about it. Don't take it personal.
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Play "Wholesome Wraith". You'll get no complaints.
Unless you kill them, of course.
Basically - outplaying a survivor makes their game "boring".
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oops, yeah I forgot about that, lol.
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Lol, exactly. “Boring” is code for “the killer didn’t let me escape”
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Well that too, just get nervous when he does judgment through walls when he is undetectable.
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He controls the loop, denies perks like DS and BT, and can hit you through walls.
Survivors hate any of those three things and will lose it if a Killer can do them.
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As much as I'd love to repeat the same handful of things people do genuinely feel are an actual issue with Pyramid Head I have to question one thing.
"Another thing I see is how people say PH isn't mobile enough, yet I'm consistently getting my 4 kills no problem. He has mobility,"
Uh... No? Unless i'm apparently overlooking something TriangleFace has zero mobility (and no, being a 115% movement speed Killer isn't mobility) anywhere in his power.
Wraith Cloak? Underwhelming but still makes you move faster.
Billy Chainsaw Dash? makes him move faster then 115%.
Oni Demon Dash? you move faster.
Legion, Nurse, Spirit, Blight yadda yadda you get the point.
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As PH is a premium killer people complain about him because they:
- Haven't bought him so they don't own him.
- Therefore don't know how to play as him.
- And don't know how to counter him when they play Survivor.
^ Pretty much it right there.
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Boring to play as. Boring to play against. My two cents.
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I've bought PH, played him, and the only counter in a chase is to hope he forgot to hold M2 this time and runs into the pallet for some reason.
^ pretty much it right there. Can't wait to try these new changes, might actually enjoy playing him now.
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Boring to play against because 99% of them tunnel/camp
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I don't get people who see this as the reason for the PH hate. A very good demogorgon does the same thing but even better since there is even less time to react. He can't make the prediction hits around walls but with rat liver he can basically come around every corner with the shred charged up and you either feed him a pallet (which he instantly breaks) or go down.
https://clips.twitch.tv/KnottyWildSangRiPepperonis
That's a decent example.
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Why does OP exaggerate so much in the title?
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Over-packed kit. Pyramid Head can deny an area, track you, mori you, ranged attack (with no drawback) and immediately send you to hook.
He's the Jack-of-All-Trades killer, with no real clear weakness.
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When demo does it, he eats the pallet. When ph does it, you get hit and/or go down...How do you not get why people hate pyramid head and not Demo??? And yes I am aware rat liver is dumb and I've stopped running it but most demo's don't know how to use it properly so I've not had as bad of a time against it. Everyone can use PH's power.
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It is exceptionally difficult to hit good survivors out in the open with the PH power. Even at regular loops most good players will have little problem dodging multiple M2s since it is an extremely telegraphed attack and gives you alot of time to dodge it. Anyone who can 360 huntress hatchets can dodge open area PH M2s. That's why everyone (except myself apparently) is just feathering instead of actually using it. I'm actually looking forward to the change at this point since I love going for ambitious M2s.
So if the complaint is that it is only being feathered and used at windows / pallets; i'd say demo does the same thing but even better in a ton of cases. If the complaint is about his entire kit overall I can see that, but alot of people complain about the zoning in particular while waiting for the survivor to get stuck into an animation lock which demo, deathslinger, huntress, etc all do as well.
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Demo and Huntress zone really well but they're slower than the survivor while fully charging and are at a point where they can hit you (with the exception of rat liver obviously, I want that dumb add-on removed). I mean it's gonna be mostly water under the bridge soon anyway providing they fix the fast cancel thing you could do in the PTB. I'm also looking forward to his changes because ambitious shots through walls are what make pyramid head really fun to play against, it's just nobody did that with him because there was little to no point when you could eventually win any pallet or window situation for free. I like the rest of his kit which is why I always hated playing against and as him, it was just kinda disappointing that he had 1 thing that ruined it, but it's now getting changed.
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I just always consider demo as having a rat liver at this point since it is easy to have 3-4 in a bloodweb and I never play him without one. I don't consider it OP or anything; when you consider the rest of the killer cast. And everything else he has is just awful. It's not like you ever really have time to do too much with his portals with all 4 survivors alive.
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I just find him boring because he can only really be played one way. There's no reason to ever use the projectile outside of a guaranteed hit. It's too punishing. It's too easy to see coming and not worth the cooldown.
Conversly, I find going for only guaranteed hits at pallets or vaults to also be mind numbingly dull. Very flowchart and by the numbers.
He's a very, very boring killer and it blows my mind that this is the same team that designed characters like Oni, Blight and Billy or Plague.
Than there's going against him. You just loop him like always until he gets the free hit because there's no additional way to play against him, if you try anything different you'll just get hit sooner than you would with the slightly less optimal looping.
Why would a Pyramid with half a brain throw out projectiles if you can dodge them easily. Most other killers who have some form of counter to pallets/vaults have an additional mechanic or something that gives the survivor some sort of counterplay. They didn't add any new opportunitys for survivors they just took existing ones away.
He's like Deathslinger. Strong in a chase and crap in pressure. They literally incentivised tunneling off hook with him with the way cages work. They're well aware its the bare minimum he needs to do against a good team to have a chance at winning.
The pinnacle of Pyramids skill ceiling is literally "Ok he's gonna drop it this time I'll drop my sword and if he doesn't I'll get the lunge". Because there's no way to play him at a higher level. He's too limited by his power.
What's worse is that SH2 is one of my fav games ever. I literally screamed "NO ######### WAY" when I recognised Heather's jacket in that reveal trailer and it blew my mind. This game has made me kinda hate Pyramid Head more than any forced appearances in other Silent Hill games ever could.
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By "boring" people mean there is heavily reduced counterplay which turns survivours into bots with extra functions. This is an multiplayer game and if you remove the interaction between the two sides you just removed the reason why people play this game.
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He has no mobility.
His tracking is reliant on survivor mistakes.
Doesn't "deny" an area unless you aren't stepping or crouching over torment (for some reason).
Mori on death hook*
Ranged attack with a reactable telegraph and a long cooldown.
Pyramid lives and dies by his anti DS and his ranged power due to how little else he has in his kit. Thankfully his raged power is pretty good during animation locks.
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You don't need mobility when you have an attack that passes through obstacles.
Also, this whole "when things are done perfect" argument doesn't fly, it never does. Survivors will make mistakes unless they're top-tier, sweat with friends. When I said "Power-packed" I think you read that as over-powered. They're not the same thing and his kit is packed.
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Ah yea mb I thought you meant actually over powered.
Even then though, I still wouldn't describe his kit as packed. Freddy is what I would think of as packed. Mobility, chase, passive pressure, tracking. Pyramid has Chase and a bit of pressure, his tracking is so weak I wouldn't even consider it a thing.
If you're talking stacked as in, he is really strong in what he does (because he is, he screws DS and has one of the best chases in the game), I agree, but if you're talking all around I still disagree as he fails on some fronts.
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TL:DR
Survivors hate PH because he can deny them some of their most powerful perks. DS+BT. He also makes vaults unsafe. Survivors aren't happy with a killer they can't mindlessly loop until 5 gens pop.
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I literally have up half way through a match and still got hate messages lol
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It's basically this. They want you to play wraith, leatherface or trapper....but no OP builds, perks or add ons.
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No one enjoys getting punished for their sins!
Well, except for James, of course. Then again - he killed his own wife which arguably is a little more extreme than looping but Pyramid Head considers both actions a sin of equal value.
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Any killer that has real anti-loop or makes survivors have to change their playstyle at loops will be disliked.
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Full honesty, I dont like any of the killers since legion. Theyre all kind of meh to me
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