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wraith still crap

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  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Dwight_Confusion said:

    @PigNRun said:

    Hag was a stronger camper before her buffs and her camping ability is just as strong as it was before.

    Wrong.

    If you are camping with the Hag, then you aren't playing her right in anyway.

    Make Your Choice is incredibly strong on her. Hag is a anti camping killer. Maybe patrol camp at best. She isn't this camping type in any way.

    I would think that a camping hag would struggle against a smart team.

    That was my point, buffing killers is useless if people continue to camp with them for no reason.

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650

    @fcc2014 said:

    @Dwight_Confusion said:

    @PigNRun said:

    Hag was a stronger camper before her buffs and her camping ability is just as strong as it was before.

    Wrong.

    If you are camping with the Hag, then you aren't playing her right in anyway.

    Make Your Choice is incredibly strong on her. Hag is a anti camping killer. Maybe patrol camp at best. She isn't this camping type in any way.

    I would think that a camping hag would struggle against a smart team.

    That was my point, buffing killers is useless if people continue to camp with them for no reason.

    Buffing them isn't pointless in anyway. By your logic, they should nerf every killer because "some" people camp with certain killers.

    The minority doesn't make the majority.

    The game is headed in a strong direction. Surviving should be difficult and killing should be quite as hard as it has been for some.

    We're getting there. "Survive by Daylight".

    I didn't buy that game. I bought "Dead by Daylight" where the premise is to die... before daylight. aka

    you don't get to walk around acting like a moron and still survive.

    The devs and @not_Queen are doing some fantastic changes. They want my money? They want me to push this game to others?

    THey want more players? I think they'll get it. The game has never been in a better place than it is right now.

  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    I don't agree he is trash. IMO he's an average killer now just like the rest below Billy/Nurse. I definitely see where you are coming from though with the grind. Once you reach a certain amount of teachables, it becomes an RNG disaster leveling up a character's perks. I took me over 3 million BPs to get Wraith from rank 1 to rank 50 with the perks I wanted. Nothing special either, just Enduring/MYC/Ruin/BBQ.

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650

    He's not just average.

    He's got add ons that directly influence his catching, and tracking abilities now. He's got an add on that is like brutal strength/Fire Up combined.

    His "All Seeing" add on is ridiculously strong. He's got built in 1 sec windstorm, and not many of his add ons have drawbacks.

    He's just fantastic. Finally...

  • Usui
    Usui Member Posts: 531
    edited September 2018

    @Orion said:
    Yeah, it's not that I asked you questions to get a better idea of your position and you refused to answer them because they called your position into question; it's that I'm a "biased Killer main". That's why I get along so well with Tsulan, a Survivor main.

    He's just as bad if not/worse then you. Nothing to be proud of imo.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    edited September 2018
    @Dwight_Confusion it is 100 percent useless if they take those tools play the same exact way and still complain how weak this or that killer is. No killer or survivor wants to adapt to changes made in this game and that is one of the many obstacles the game deals with.
  • PigNRun
    PigNRun Member Posts: 2,428

    @Dwight_Confusion said:

    @PigNRun said:
    fcc2014 said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Schulz_The_Ugly said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    @Dwight_Confusion thinks different
    
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/20197/wraith-is-awesome-and-very-fun-to-play
    
    
    
    you need perks and addons...
    
    i don't have time or want to farm those bps to be able to win a game
    
    
    
    Lol i need to quote this "I DON'T HAVE TIME OR WANT TO FARM THOSE BPS TO BE ABLE TO WIN A GAME".
    

    I'm trying to reply but i'm laughing so hard

    @fcc2014 @chemical_reject @SenzuDuck @PinkEricka @WhateverIGuess @Usui

    Hag got buffed made her a stronger camper [...]

    Hag was a stronger camper before her buffs and her camping ability is just as strong as it was before.

    Wrong.

    If you are camping with the Hag, then you aren't playing her right in anyway.

    Make Your Choice is incredibly strong on her. Hag is a anti camping killer. Maybe patrol camp at best. She isn't this camping type in any way.

    I would think that a camping hag would struggle against a smart team.

    Not sure what you are trying to say, unless you quoted the wrong person.
    I said the rework she got did not make her a better camper, they made her an overall better killer. Her camper potential is just as good as it was before. The changes did not affect her ability to camp, which is the contrary to what fcc was using as a point.

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650

    I apologize. I must of misread.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    They mine as well just left him the same and only changed his addons..
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Wraith still crap, is consistently getting 2-4k at ranks 1-5 yep he's crap.

  • Dwight_Confusion
    Dwight_Confusion Member Posts: 1,650

    People are complaining for the sake of complaining.

    I guess @powerbats you were being sarcastic?

    Most people are just whining. It's unreal. I love the Wraith changes. I'm crushing with him on console. You know...

    where I get 20-30 FPS at best.

    Use All Seeing Pink and the Purple All Seeing..

    omg.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    I actually loved the changes made to the Wraith. I could see how some idiots would use him as a camper, but to me, his changes, makes him almost as good of a stalker as Myers Tier1.

    Of course though, I want him buffed more. I am a Killer main. I want all killers to be able to get 4K in 37 seconds.

  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716

    just played some tier10 ranks and only ballounies!! Nice addons, removing his better fresher bloodstains basekit? Goddament that's no buff! the poor timid guy needs love...

    was expecting more, he's too addon depended, perk depend...
    no fun expecially when im stuck at mid with SWFs and all geared up survs..

    I don't have time to bloody gear I'm up guys! I have three lil' hags to feed YO FOOOLS!

    Maybe watch monto and learn
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Dwight_Confusion said:
    People are complaining for the sake of complaining.

    I guess @powerbats you were being sarcastic?

    Most people are just whining. It's unreal. I love the Wraith changes. I'm crushing with him on console. You know...

    where I get 20-30 FPS at best.

    Use All Seeing Pink and the Purple All Seeing..

    omg.

    Yes I was being sarcastic or at least trying to obviously be so.

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    @Michiko said:
    Before I make my exit, I would like to clarify any false accusations this person has made of me. I'm a very open-minded person, I love to hear both sides of everythig whether its a real situation or on this wonderful game that we love to play. 

    Yesterday this person refused (AS ALWAYS) to stand in someone elses shoes, those shoes being survivors and understand that there is a common situation that occurs with us survivors where hooks are so close together. Not to mention he called people names (Liar, etc) and then tried to cry victim of "insults" after he insulted the OP and took his frustrations out on me because the OP posted something he didn't agree with. 

    To wrap this all up, this person is not a victim. He's way too condescending and big-headed to cry victim. He will never care to hear anybody's point of view unless you're a killer main & this is why I refused to engage in any type of conversation with him further more being that I am non-biased and I agree with truthful statements & opinions (survivor or killer I don't choose sides.) Anyway, everyone have a wonderful day & enjoy Rin my loves! ❤️ 

    PS: Look at this cute Piggy :chuffed:

    OH MY GOODNESS!!! What a cute piggy!!!!

  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    Also everything has already been stated. You have to put time and dedication into the characters to improve them and make them better. Wraith was made better than what he used to be in his base kit. But now with add-ons he's as strong as all the other killers below nurse and billy. I'm a Freddy main and I like to play him, but I put lots of time and effort into him and all of my other killers to make them better and improve their power. Once I get him to P3 I might move on to spirit though as she is very fun to play and I've been enjoying her a lot more than I thought I would. But good luck grinding and getting some good add-ons for wraith. I'd recommend not prestieging him once he gets to level 50 due to you sounding very busy and prestieging would only make you have to grind more.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Michiko said:
    Orion said:

    @Michiko said:

    They also exploit the s*** out of uncloaking and cloaking to move faster.

    Excuse me? Are you saying that a Killer using his power is an exploit, or is there an actual exploit I'm not aware of?

    @Orion Idk why you're quoting me, I told you I refuse to engage in any discussion with you any further. I can't discuss/agree to disagree with someone who thinks they're ALWAYS right. You're the worst of the worst to debate with. Good day.

    I have seen you in youtube comments and you never agree with anyone anyways, just like talking to a wall..

  • Michiko
    Michiko Member Posts: 623
    Zanfer said:

    @Michiko said:
    Orion said:

    @Michiko said:

    They also exploit the s*** out of uncloaking and cloaking to move faster.

    Excuse me? Are you saying that a Killer using his power is an exploit, or is there an actual exploit I'm not aware of?

    @Orion Idk why you're quoting me, I told you I refuse to engage in any discussion with you any further. I can't discuss/agree to disagree with someone who thinks they're ALWAYS right. You're the worst of the worst to debate with. Good day.

    I have seen you in youtube comments and you never agree with anyone anyways, just like talking to a wall..

    Who? 
  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388
    Zanfer said:

    @Michiko said:
    Orion said:

    @Michiko said:

    They also exploit the s*** out of uncloaking and cloaking to move faster.

    Excuse me? Are you saying that a Killer using his power is an exploit, or is there an actual exploit I'm not aware of?

    @Orion Idk why you're quoting me, I told you I refuse to engage in any discussion with you any further. I can't discuss/agree to disagree with someone who thinks they're ALWAYS right. You're the worst of the worst to debate with. Good day.

    I have seen you in youtube comments and you never agree with anyone anyways, just like talking to a wall..

    Hmmm disciple of Orion please provide proof of said bs!