The reason the mori nerf was so simple

Mozzie

AChaoticKiller

Dec 10, 2020

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1811364#Comment_1811364

And were those games common? No most games mori's are used to win them, most games keys result to only 1 survivor escaping if they even get to use it. Mori's were more of a problem it doesn't matter if 1 out of 50 players or whatever don't use them the majority use mori's to win. I also think they should have been done at the same time but i'm also fine that they were not because mori's are no longer a problem.

Using uncommon examples doesn't prove anything it just shows i was right that keys are stronger situationally, in a mod post they said that 2% off all escapes are from keys. If it's that low what percent do you think mori's make up for kills? The very fact that either are not used in the majority of matches let alone together shows that they don't balance each other out.

Also keys to success that isn't common especially in high ranks were the meta is most common so again getting a key during a match isn't common.

What is common and what isn't is pure anecdotal and there's no sense in arguing about things that cannot be proven either way. You cannot prove the most of games with key never get used and I cannot prove that most mori game's don't result in tunneling. I can just tell you from my experience what I think is best for the game and you do the same.

That's not to say we cannot theorycraft about what changes would be a better, beneficial result for the community overall.

Vetrathene

Freudentrauma

Dec 9, 2020

"Now Mori's are an offering, offerings are simple they do one thing and one thing only. If Mori's where to stay as an offering than no idea, rework, or added restrictions were likely to be put on it in the first place since it would complicate them. This is not my personal opinion ask yourself if you really think the devs would make a offering have a similar description as a perk wither it be a bunch of restrictions or requirements for it to work. If your with me on that it's easy to see them not doing any kind of changes like that."

But that's the missed opportunity we are speaking of. Especially Killer offerings have the big advantage, that there is always only one. And it has the opportunity to be quite game changing. That's what Moris always did. Even the change didn't completely nullify it.

The big question is, what you want offerings to be. Blood point wasters, blood point boosters or something far more interesting. I had a suggestion for the Ebony Mori as well. And the core idea was that it could change the general progress a killer makes from beeing per survivor towards a complete linear one with a Token system. It might sound complicated. As complicated as a perk, but it would provide an interesting way that should make it keep interesting for both sides. And that was only one example.

In their new form they seem balanced and they slightly might give the killer something. But that benefit comes with downsides as well like a long Mori animation and not benefitting from hook perks, when using a Mori. And most likely, it's not exciting. The cheer to see the killers Animation just wears off e.g.

That's why I dislike that simple change in the way it's done. Especially because it could have been done much earlier. And the fact that the Cypress Mori stays as it is. I truelly hoped/expected the Devs to adress such an unused offering, when adressing Moris in general. And I don't believe that it was the reasonable change. Not a bad one, but it opened it's own can of worms like how it effects Emblems, bloodpoint gain etc. It's not worth it in it current state and it's not what the Devs claimed, when they talked about Moris and Keys beeing changed in a way to keep them fun and interesting. That's not what happened with Moris. Just a simple and strict nerf. Like I said before.

Well written and thought out. I empathize with this. I wish they had taken more time and had done something much less lazy. But it feels like they got tired of trying other things and just decided to do what was easy. Unfortunately the game is suffering for it.

edgarpoop

Moris were ridiculous. It would take an extreme amount of bias to not see how absurd it was for a killer to shorten the game by up to 33% for each survivor. The cheap win mechanics have needed to go for years.