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Bodyblocked whole game by Wraith. Ban?
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He literally can't move on because he's blocked. He would need to commit an offense himself and DC to move on.
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Lol love the comments trying to excuse this ######### behavior.
It's holding the game hostage and griefing, both of which are reportable.
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That's not correct. It makes no sense to base it on how long a killer is body blocking for. All that matters is the circumstances that they bodyblock. There's a bunch of posts on this topic on the forum. The ruling by a dev was it depends on a case by case basis but the general idea is that if the killer is trying to win by body blocking specifically knowing that end game collapse should be around the corner than it's fair game. I don't quite remember if this includes knowing that all gens are basically done but from what I remember it was fine as long as all gens are done. Of course it could've just been that one case or they changed their stance on things.
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Not reportable.
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did any of the ppl saying it's not reportable see mandytalk's response...
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People are stubborn and just want to try and stir the pot or try and make some point they think exists, like for example this one:
That's just general, body blocking on it's own is not a bannable offense that is what that is referring to. It is NOT referring to an instance of "Holding the game hostage" which is what was described and IS reportable here.
Body Blocking was simply the means to an actual reportable offense that is holding a game hostage.
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It is not holding the game hostage. There is literally nothing stopping the other 3 players from popping every gen and leaving. That game could be over in less than 2 minutes. Holding the game hostage is where the game CANNOT advance.
This is no different than facecamping a hook, which we have been told time and time again is legal.
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Bodyblocking in that way is griefing, which I believe is a ban-able offense.
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Video proof + ticket to support for griefing.
But in that case you also need to report your friends who even when trying to help are actually holding the game hostage for EVERYONE when the killer, even if it's annoying and reportable, "only" take ONE survivor hostage.
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Ignoring Mandy's response and multiple screenshots from other mods saying it's reportable. 😂
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Multiple Devs have said it IS banable and the teammates are actually not st fault. People need to stop defending this crappy behavior of killers
I'm still in a game right now because a leather face blocked me in the killer shack while I was doing a totem. My teammates tried to help by getting him to chase them. They found a key and all went out the hatch. End game collapse did NOT start so we are just sitting here because bubba won't go ahead and kill me. So we all recorded video footage and are reporting him in game and all submitting tickets. He was in the wrong. Nothjng anyone says can change that. Devs have commented over and over KILLERS CANNOT bodyblock for a long period of time. It is grieving. Survivors bodyblocking killers is not reportable.
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I 100% agree to your post. And to add: "Survivors bodyblocking killers is not reportable."<---This probably only because the Killer can hit the Survivor. If this would not be possible and he would remain bodyblocked, you would see way more complaints about this by Killers.
And I simply cannot get how Killer Players can be like "Yeah, the game can end". Blocking for an excessive amount of time is simply wrong. Saying that it is not "holding the game hostage" might be true, because even when blocked at 5 Gens, the game will end at some point, but it should not be possible to rob someone of a game like that. If Bodyblocking is listed as an non-reportable thing, this means short-time bodyblocks like taking a Hit for Teammates or blocking Windows (as Wraith, for example) or blocking Survivors into Corners to get a Hit in. But not to trap them for a full game.
Just yesterday someone has wrote an idea that the Survivor blocked should lose collision once they get Crows. This would help against Killers AND Survivors bodyblocking them without any negative impact on gameplay.
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First of all to your case, that is a perfect example for a game taken hostage since you can't finish it or exit without dc.
Second many people are not defending the behaviour of the killer since it is ban worthy and reportable. What they are saying is that, in the op's case, the swf teammates (with which the op was probably on coms or able to communicate) didn't finish the game in this situation where nothing else can be done if the killer is such a jerk.
The game didn't have to last more than 3 minutes. They would have needed to accept that there is nothing to be done and simply do as if their teammate had a power outage or whatever. But the "pride" (don't know what to call it exactly) or altruism of an swf dictates to escape all together if possible, which isn't in this case and has to identified and accepted.
And to finish again with the statement that those 2 paragraphs above do not approve of any behaviour by the killer but address the partly fault of the swf to let this incident blow out of proportion.
Edit: maybe the devs could implement a mechanic where a survivor becomes able to phase through the killer, like after getting hit, if the killer stand in their direct vicinity for more than 30-60 seconds.
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That's severely outdated as you cant "dribble" a survivor anymore and havent been able to in a very very very long time. @MandyTalk confirm?
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And to finish again with the statement that those 2 paragraphs above do not approve of any behaviour by the killer but address the partly fault of the swf to let this incident blow out of proportion.
Counterpoint: The SWF team is not the one preventing a player from ending the game. 3/4 players are simply electing not to end the game themself. 1/4 player DOES want to end the game themself but the Killer is saying "no, I'm not letting you." It's not a problem if everyone is fine with dragging the game on. The problem is when one person does not want to drag the game on but a player is actively stopping them from bringing the game to a close.
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Then the 3/4 of the team are kind of taking the game hostage themselves, together with the killer.
The 1/4 should rethink to swf with them again, when they decide against using the only means to avoid a dc penalty for the 1/4.
But hey pls stop quoting me. You obviously want to find all the blame for this 30+ minute game in the killer. While I say, yes the killer is a dick and can/should be reported BUT the people in his swf are also at fault for dragging it out and you want to ignore the second point.
Edit: Feel free to.do otherwise but I will chose to ignore you and let you enjyz having the last say in this looping discussion.
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No, they are not. The trapped player has demonstrated that the team in its entirety does not want to leave anyone behind, and the Wraith has demonstrated that he is okay with staying in place for 30+ minutes. Ergo, the three players choosing to not open the gates is something that no player has an issue with. Meanwhile, the trapped player has demonstrated that the Wraith is refusing to allow at least one player to finish the game (the one he is bodyblocking), so his actions are one that at least one person is taking an action with. So if the three remaining players are taking an action that no player takes issue with and the Wraith is taking an action that one player is taking issue with AND is reportable, then only the Wraith is at fault for the situation. Sorry, but you are just wrong in this case.
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Well actually the other guy does have a point. Technically, if you just go along with the rules the other 3 members of the swf are also reportable for not continuing the game. It's arguably also holding the game hostage. If we didn't know it was a SWF working together it could just as easily be survivors working with a killer to trap some1until they DC, which has happened in the past. Of course, the killer is also in trouble depending on the situation. It doesn't matter if "everyone" not including the killer considers it fine, especially if the group is a SWF.
In terms of the spirit of the rules, the other ppl in the swf are probably fine, since it sounds like the Wraith body blocked from mid game and not near end game.
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No, because the other three people are not preventing someone from continuing the game. If it was three people working with the Killer to trap the fourth, that would absolutely be a different story. In that case, the three people would be doing something the fourth is not okay with. And in that case, OP's post would certainly hold the other Survivors in the same guilty regard as the Wraith. In this case, the three are doing something that both the Killer AND the fourth are okay with. It is the Killer who is doing something that someone is objecting to.
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Mod in this post responded saying the swf didn't take game hostage, the killer took the game hostage and is the one to be reported.
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But I'm not arguing against what the mod said? The mod said what they said based off of the available details provided, which is very little and obviously from the pov of the survivor. I even mentioned that in this case things the killer is probably at fault.
How do you know the killer didn't object? And if they weren't SWF how would you know the other survivors weren't just laughing at the one survivor who was stuck? Also, as I said before, it doesn't matter who objects or not. If you break the rules than you've broken the rules. Now we're humans and not robots so we understand that what happened isn't in the spirit of the rules so the swf is fine. I think that's something that's not getting through into your head.
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The thread has run it's course - the killer decided to bodyblock a survivor in a corner and giving them no option to leave. It was the killers choice, they are the one griefing. This is not the right thread to make a it a survivor versus killer thing. The killer is breaking the rules - they're completely denying one player of the game to play the game at all. Even if it wasn't for 30 minutes like it is in this case. For those saying all survivors need to be bodyblocked for it to count: This is false. One is enough, like in this case.
Whether or not their friends ran around or not - the killer had all the time in the world to start moving and chasing them. Ultimately, the killer made the choice to stand around and bodyblock a survivor in the corner. They could have moved, but didn't.
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