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No new killer buffs in mid patch?

I don't know if i'm the only one who's bothered by this, but i noticed that there wasn't any killer buffs in this patch; only perks, hook changes and such; i'm disappointed because i thought we where suppose to get a buff to freddy in this patch; but i guess not?

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  • Zagrid
    Zagrid Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,000

    Spirits audio got changed which makes her slightly more powerful. And noed buff

  • Okuu46
    Okuu46 Member Posts: 93

    @Zagrid said:
    Spirits audio got changed which makes her slightly more powerful. And noed buff

    i was hoping for freddy; since they've been discussing about it for sometime and he needs it the most

  • Khalednazari
    Khalednazari Member Posts: 1,433
    I wasn't expecting a Freddy buff this mid chapter. The devs had already mentioned before that they need more time for it. As far buffs for the killers are concerned, the healing time nerf is a buff for all the anti-heal killer perks. Thanatophobia, Dying Light, Coulrophobia, Sloppy Butcher are all insanely buffed now. It'll take upto 120 seconds to self care, if all these perks are used. 
  • benzos
    benzos Member Posts: 178

    They might not even have to do all that much considering how much theyre improving alaround gameplay like adjusting building and windows. maps are getting better for killer and vaults are changing too. to me that's a big thing and I don't know why people aren't talking about that.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    @Khalednazari said:
    I wasn't expecting a Freddy buff this mid chapter. The devs had already mentioned before that they need more time for it. As far buffs for the killers are concerned, the healing time nerf is a buff for all the anti-heal killer perks. Thanatophobia, Dying Light, Coulrophobia, Sloppy Butcher are all insanely buffed now. It'll take upto 120 seconds to self care, if all these perks are used. 

    Most likely the healing changes are just being tested

  • AshleyWB
    AshleyWB Member Posts: 4,061
    I can't believe theres no Freaggae rastaman skin. Sadface
  • Akuma
    Akuma Member Posts: 407
    No killer buf


    incteased healing time by 4 seconds
    With mangled it takes now 20 secs instead of 16
    Seriously? Leave ->
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    @Akuma said:
    No killer buf

    incteased healing time by 4 seconds
    With mangled it takes now 20 secs instead of 16
    Seriously? Leave ->

    wow killers gain like 30 seconds every game but survivors also get massively buffed sabo along with nerfed slugging

  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @Akuma said:
    No killer buf

    incteased healing time by 4 seconds
    With mangled it takes now 20 secs instead of 16
    Seriously? Leave ->

    4 seconds, oh no.... what a game changer

  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    Okuu46 said:

    I don't know if i'm the only one who's bothered by this, but i noticed that there wasn't any killer buffs in this patch; only perks, hook changes and such; i'm disappointed because i thought we where suppose to get a buff to freddy in this patch; but i guess not?

    Maybe they'll add some more changes to the PTB before releasing it like they did with the Clown? I doubt this'll happen but that's the only way I can see Freddy getting a buff next update instead of waiting until the next chapter update.. 
  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    Okuu46 said:

    I don't know if i'm the only one who's bothered by this, but i noticed that there wasn't any killer buffs in this patch; only perks, hook changes and such; i'm disappointed because i thought we where suppose to get a buff to freddy in this patch; but i guess not?

    Maybe they'll add some more changes to the PTB before releasing it like they did with the Clown? I doubt this'll happen but that's the only way I can see Freddy getting a buff next update instead of waiting until the next chapter update.. 
    they’re still trying to rework Freddy so I’d say it might be longer ,they’ve said in a stream they are totally wanting to rework his power to make it different from what it is now so Freddy may not even play the same as he used to even with his core ability and that takes time to get right.
  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053

    @Tsulan said:
    Khalednazari said:

    I wasn't expecting a Freddy buff this mid chapter. The devs had already mentioned before that they need more time for it. As far buffs for the killers are concerned, the healing time nerf is a buff for all the anti-heal killer perks. Thanatophobia, Dying Light, Coulrophobia, Sloppy Butcher are all insanely buffed now. It'll take upto 120 seconds to self care, if all these perks are used. 

    No survivor with 2 working brain cells will self heal in the terror radius of the killer. So coulrophobia would never apply.

    To be fair. It's a very theoretical scenario. And kinda a form of overkill to use all of those perks at once. It only shows how it makes these perks stronger.
    And you are right Coulrophobia is very situational perk. But even if it makes survivors stop healing and reposition themselves, it still delays the heal a bit. And besides it useful in certain slugging/heal scenario, when they ned to finish a heal before you approach.

  • megdonalds
    megdonalds Member Posts: 742

    Just a lil buff, but hook animation is faster/shorter now, means saves a bit more time for killer if it's even noticeable at all.

  • The_Fallen_Utopia
    The_Fallen_Utopia Member Posts: 441
    lyric said:
    Okuu46 said:

    I don't know if i'm the only one who's bothered by this, but i noticed that there wasn't any killer buffs in this patch; only perks, hook changes and such; i'm disappointed because i thought we where suppose to get a buff to freddy in this patch; but i guess not?

    Maybe they'll add some more changes to the PTB before releasing it like they did with the Clown? I doubt this'll happen but that's the only way I can see Freddy getting a buff next update instead of waiting until the next chapter update.. 
    they’re still trying to rework Freddy so I’d say it might be longer ,they’ve said in a stream they are totally wanting to rework his power to make it different from what it is now so Freddy may not even play the same as he used to even with his core ability and that takes time to get right.
    True I forgot they mentioned that.. I wonder how much different things will play out after the rework. Hopefully we hear something of this soon. 
  • vampire_toothy
    vampire_toothy Member Posts: 381
    edited October 2018

    Edit : I misread the title of the update post, please disregard what I said here.

    This doesn't look like the mid-chapter patch, I think this is just the PTB for the event they put up that appears as something that will occur on the 19th of this month. It's way too soon for this to be the mid-chapter patch which would actually contain the rest of the changes I would imagine. Basically this looks like an update with changes they finished early with the event content being readily available when the update rolls out from what I can tell. I could be wrong as I have no way of verifying this but it's just simply too soon for this to be the mid chapter patch as we are supposed to get major updates roughly every 6 weeks and it's only been a little more than 2 weeks since shattered bloodlines got released.

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  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    The healing speed nerf is really, really impactful.
    I played against some sloppy butcher killers in the ptb and i can tell you, that selfcaring is NOT worth it anymore. Its really a dilemma as survivor, beceause you will lose if you heal yourself for 40s (thats literally half a gen), but doing gens injured is super risky and throwable.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    She was buffed in 2.2.1

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Freudentrauma said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Khalednazari said:

    I wasn't expecting a Freddy buff this mid chapter. The devs had already mentioned before that they need more time for it. As far buffs for the killers are concerned, the healing time nerf is a buff for all the anti-heal killer perks. Thanatophobia, Dying Light, Coulrophobia, Sloppy Butcher are all insanely buffed now. It'll take upto 120 seconds to self care, if all these perks are used. 

    No survivor with 2 working brain cells will self heal in the terror radius of the killer. So coulrophobia would never apply.

    To be fair. It's a very theoretical scenario. And kinda a form of overkill to use all of those perks at once. It only shows how it makes these perks stronger.
    And you are right Coulrophobia is very situational perk. But even if it makes survivors stop healing and reposition themselves, it still delays the heal a bit. And besides it useful in certain slugging/heal scenario, when they ned to finish a heal before you approach.

    There's actually been some killers running Coulrophobia with Distressing and either Nurses and or Unnerving Presence which makes healing difficult.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Weederick said:
    The healing speed nerf is really, really impactful.
    I played against some sloppy butcher killers in the ptb and i can tell you, that selfcaring is NOT worth it anymore. Its really a dilemma as survivor, beceause you will lose if you heal yourself for 40s (thats literally half a gen), but doing gens injured is super risky and throwable.

    Sounds like the Devs found a good balancing tool at last.
    Only took them 2 years to figure out how to slow the game down.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @powerbats said:

    @Freudentrauma said:

    @Tsulan said:
    Khalednazari said:

    I wasn't expecting a Freddy buff this mid chapter. The devs had already mentioned before that they need more time for it. As far buffs for the killers are concerned, the healing time nerf is a buff for all the anti-heal killer perks. Thanatophobia, Dying Light, Coulrophobia, Sloppy Butcher are all insanely buffed now. It'll take upto 120 seconds to self care, if all these perks are used. 

    No survivor with 2 working brain cells will self heal in the terror radius of the killer. So coulrophobia would never apply.

    To be fair. It's a very theoretical scenario. And kinda a form of overkill to use all of those perks at once. It only shows how it makes these perks stronger.
    And you are right Coulrophobia is very situational perk. But even if it makes survivors stop healing and reposition themselves, it still delays the heal a bit. And besides it useful in certain slugging/heal scenario, when they ned to finish a heal before you approach.

    There's actually been some killers running Coulrophobia with Distressing and either Nurses and or Unnerving Presence which makes healing difficult.

    If a killer is using 2 to 4 perks all centered around making healing difficult… guess what?
    Healing should be difficult!!
    Because he lost all his tools to pressure the gens, help in a chase, delay gens or help finding survivor.

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Weederick said:
    The healing speed nerf is really, really impactful.
    I played against some sloppy butcher killers in the ptb and i can tell you, that selfcaring is NOT worth it anymore. Its really a dilemma as survivor, beceause you will lose if you heal yourself for 40s (thats literally half a gen), but doing gens injured is super risky and throwable.

    Sounds like the Devs found a good balancing tool at last.
    Only took them 2 years to figure out how to slow the game down.

    Not sure wether thats the right approach though. I believe this will further divide 0k and 4k games. As snowballing is unstoppable now with 40s selfcare times, but genrush is still the same. Slowing down both sides main objective (gens vs kills) would be better imo. BUT im glad something has been done

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Wolf74 said:

    If a killer is using 2 to 4 perks all centered around making healing difficult… guess what?
    Healing should be difficult!!
    Because he lost all his tools to pressure the gens, help in a chase, delay gens or help finding survivor.

    The point is that killers are using different builds and doing well with said different builds and by that logic survivors shouldn't have to run 2-4 perk slots to counter killers etc.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @Weederick said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Weederick said:
    The healing speed nerf is really, really impactful.
    I played against some sloppy butcher killers in the ptb and i can tell you, that selfcaring is NOT worth it anymore. Its really a dilemma as survivor, beceause you will lose if you heal yourself for 40s (thats literally half a gen), but doing gens injured is super risky and throwable.

    Sounds like the Devs found a good balancing tool at last.
    Only took them 2 years to figure out how to slow the game down.

    Not sure wether thats the right approach though. I believe this will further divide 0k and 4k games. As snowballing is unstoppable now with 40s selfcare times, but genrush is still the same. Slowing down both sides main objective (gens vs kills) would be better imo. BUT im glad something has been done

    At least hitting someone means something even if you lose them.
    Survivor tanked hits for each other way to easy.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @powerbats said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    If a killer is using 2 to 4 perks all centered around making healing difficult… guess what?
    Healing should be difficult!!
    Because he lost all his tools to pressure the gens, help in a chase, delay gens or help finding survivor.

    The point is that killers are using different builds and doing well with said different builds and by that logic survivors shouldn't have to run 2-4 perk slots to counter killers etc.

    Yes, killer can run different builds to affect specific mechanics of the game, but survivor can run their beloved meta perks all day and don't have to think about "different builds".

  • Weederick
    Weederick Member Posts: 1,080

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Weederick said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @Weederick said:
    The healing speed nerf is really, really impactful.
    I played against some sloppy butcher killers in the ptb and i can tell you, that selfcaring is NOT worth it anymore. Its really a dilemma as survivor, beceause you will lose if you heal yourself for 40s (thats literally half a gen), but doing gens injured is super risky and throwable.

    Sounds like the Devs found a good balancing tool at last.
    Only took them 2 years to figure out how to slow the game down.

    Not sure wether thats the right approach though. I believe this will further divide 0k and 4k games. As snowballing is unstoppable now with 40s selfcare times, but genrush is still the same. Slowing down both sides main objective (gens vs kills) would be better imo. BUT im glad something has been done

    At least hitting someone means something even if you lose them.
    Survivor tanked hits for each other way to easy.

    Agree, now it has dire consequences

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    First, let me just say that the thread title is patently wrong.

    @powerbats said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    If a killer is using 2 to 4 perks all centered around making healing difficult… guess what?
    Healing should be difficult!!
    Because he lost all his tools to pressure the gens, help in a chase, delay gens or help finding survivor.

    The point is that killers are using different builds and doing well with said different builds and by that logic survivors shouldn't have to run 2-4 perk slots to counter killers etc.

    Indeed, Killers should have builds designed to counter one or more aspects of the Survivors' gameplay, and those builds should take up multiple perk slots. Builds are, after all, an "all-in" type thing. You can either be a jack-of-all-trades and be average at countering any one thing, or you can dive into countering one thing and that one thing will be nigh-impossible for the Survivors to do.
    However, since this is an asymmetrical game, it should take more perk slots from each individual Survivor to counter any one Killer than it does for each Killer to counter any one aspect of the Survivors' gameplay.

  • Tizzle
    Tizzle Member Posts: 696

    @vampire_toothy said:
    This doesn't look like the mid-chapter patch, I think this is just the PTB for the event they put up that appears as something that will occur on the 19th of this month. It's way too soon for this to be the mid-chapter patch which would actually contain the rest of the changes I would imagine. Basically this looks like an update with changes they finished early with the event content being readily available when the update rolls out from what I can tell. I could be wrong as I have no way of verifying this but it's just simply too soon for this to be the mid chapter patch as we are supposed to get major updates roughly every 6 weeks and it's only been a little more than 2 weeks since shattered bloodlines got released.

    It's titled Mid Chapter 2.3 test build.

    Huh?

  • Dr_doom_j2
    Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    Literally all i see happening is survivors in the future upset about  killers "tunneling the injured survivor".
    Will be fun to run thana and sloppy though. That will probably be the slow progress meta now, which weneed because more and more ruin is becoming a big joke, everyone plows through now.



  • vampire_toothy
    vampire_toothy Member Posts: 381

    @Tizzle said:

    @vampire_toothy said:
    This doesn't look like the mid-chapter patch, I think this is just the PTB for the event they put up that appears as something that will occur on the 19th of this month. It's way too soon for this to be the mid-chapter patch which would actually contain the rest of the changes I would imagine. Basically this looks like an update with changes they finished early with the event content being readily available when the update rolls out from what I can tell. I could be wrong as I have no way of verifying this but it's just simply too soon for this to be the mid chapter patch as we are supposed to get major updates roughly every 6 weeks and it's only been a little more than 2 weeks since shattered bloodlines got released.

    It's titled Mid Chapter 2.3 test build.

    Huh?

    I was originally going to edit my comment to correct myself, mistakes happen and so I misread the title so that's my bad there.