Why does it seem like toxicity has gotten worse?
Like the past week every single round if there is someone on pc. I always get flack and get called all sorts of names at the end of the game. It's always the same stuff though, but at the same time survivors wonder why people are so turned off from playing killer. No matter how you play you will get flack for it. It doesn't really phase me, but at the same time I can see how it would phase others.
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Yes let's insinuate that all toxic end game chat is caused by survivors... that seems productive.
Don't wanna see stupidity in end game chat - turn it off - it serves no purpose anyways.
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Not all, but in my experience, majority of the verbal toxicity/abuse comes from survivors. I play 50/50 and have over 1,700 hours on PC, and it's very rare I get a killer who is verbally toxic in end-game chat.
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Well with that 1700 hours you should know by now that you can disable chat. So maybe take a proactive measure and disable it? That's like complaining that people in a bar swear and yet continually going into said bar. Not sure why you think saying you have x amount of hours is something aside from anecdotal evidence - I recently hit 1500 hours and even when I have chat open do not experience much toxic chat - but I can say with certainty I have seen a lot of that chat aimed at survivors from salty killers. Instead of continuing to allow yourself to be treated to toxic chat - do something about it - and by that I don't mean infer that survivors are the root of toxicity in chat when both parties share in the guilt of such behavior.
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I don't see any difference in number of bad sports I run into now than I did before. I expect the same percentage of selfish, deluded gits are playing now as there were months ago. Are there too many of them? Yes, but I don't see them as a growing problem. The people with no dignity, self respect, or manners are like mosquitoes; they are annoying and will never go away. You just learn to live with them.
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For starters, we need to tone down what counts as "toxic".
Camping and tunneling is not toxic.
NOED is not toxic.
Add-ons and Items are not toxic.
Just because something is good/strong or effective does not make it toxic, yet that makes up like 90% of all claims of toxicity that isn't related to end game chat.
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This seems like such a passive-aggressive reply for some reason? I was just responding to your already-sarcastic comment of "let's insinuate that all toxic end game chat is caused by survivors" and sharing my own experience of toxicity. I'm fully aware you can turn chat off.
The fact that there's already 4x the amount of survivors there are killers should indicate straight away that there's very likely more toxicity going to be coming from survivors.
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Excellent point. I doubt everyone in this thread even agrees on the definition of the so-called "toxic." I consider everyone a good egg as long as they:
- Don't cheat, either by lag spike or hack.
- Don't disconnect; if they start a game, they finish it.
- Are humble in victory, and gracious in defeat.
Everything else is fine. They can tunnel, camp, slug, herd, mori... whatever. Those are just valid tactics in the game. I don't judge that, nor do I care what Add-on(s) they bring or how they do their build. None of those things are really ours to judge.
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I wish people took more screenshots of the post game chats to show what real toxicity is like. I think that's better than anecdotal gameplay.
Hell, gameplay is gameplay. Trash talking chat is unnecessary.
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Luckily this doesn't happen too often and I did make a report of this, but just an example of real toxicity.
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Omg that's terrible. I'm sorry that happened to you.
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Yeah, now this is the stuff I think should be on blast. :( So uncalled for. Survivors like those need to get bopped with some sort of consequence.
I'm sorry my guy.
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What happens when you just leave a tumor untreated for a long time? Well, lemme tell ya..
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I'm just talking about bitterness in end game chat. Not actual mechanics.
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Passive-aggressive? LOL ok.
The initial post insinuated that toxicity is a survivor issue. I stated it's an all-around issue. I also stated to simply turn off end-game chat if they didn't wanna see it. They then went on to use their hours played as justification for anecdotal reasoning. I again restated to turn off chat since they obviously haven't if they are experiencing so much toxic EGC as to drive them to come post about it. Of course there are 4x as many people playing survivor - that does not mean that there is 4x as much toxicity coming from survivors - that is a flawed assumption.
I can say in my 4 years of playing I have reported three people for end game chat that goes well beyond typical toxic chat - 2 of them survivors and 1 a killer. As a streamer I have banned more killers who come into my channel than survivors though. This again is purely anecdotal evidence though and amounts to nothing I would ever make a supposition about or try to pass of as anything other than what it is. Maybe instead they should have made a statement that was more broad based and didn't try to paint survivors as the causation of what they perceive to be an increase in toxic end game chat.
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I never stated it's specifically a survivor issue like you're saying, I literally started off my initial response with "not all". I also never 100% said there IS 4x as much toxicity coming from survivors, I said "there's very likely more toxicity".
Also, I hope you realize i'm not the original poster of this thread and I myself never said there's an increase in toxicity.
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Karma will hopefully bite that dude in the ass in IRL
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From someone who plays 99.9 percent survivor I can tell you I have never seen a toxic reply in chat from a killer. That in no way means it does not happen but there are wayyyyy more toxic survivors who feel entitled to a save when they do something stupid and because they dont see you on one side of the map foolishly going for a survivor on the hook with the killer right behind you that you aren't doing anything productive. One match I did 3 out of the five gens, two saves, and ran the killer for a while and because I wasnt running right next to the killer with some idiot going down two times in less than 20 seconds he said at the end that I was useless LOL,,,okay. People seem to get very VERY pissed if they lose and I dont get it. I am as competitive as the next guy but I dont blame others for my mistakes and I def do not get pissed if someone doesnt save me when its not safe or feasible to do so. Best to ignore the noise.
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I would say honestly there is a rise in SWF teams and when they get out and escape cause SWF they feel the need to proclaim their “superior skills”. I’ve seen an insane amount of SWF teams lately, all hours of the day. I guess that’s good for game. More players( only survivor players so now even less killers) but I can only imagine it’s going to get worse for killers and you will have a huge drop off soon and longer ques due to the rise of SWF
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last game a fellow survivor trash talked me for accidentally leading the killer to a generator. not to mention the fact that i looped him for 3 gens and he still has the audacity to talk smack to me.
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Probably, every match you play as killer there is a higher chance because there are 4 people.
You play as survivor there is one killer.
So even if there are an equal amount of toxic survivors and killers, you are going to get one like four times more than the other.
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