Best Perkless Way To Counter A Spirit?
I've always Struggled vs Spirit, can anyone give me afew decent tips for countering high level spirit players? I don't see her as much as I should so I don't get the best practice in to learning how to work around her.
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For me, I like to keep an ear out. Spine chill is a decent perk, you can also do iron will. However, object and perks like that are not really useful and can only be used when Spirit is in her walking form. There is not a perkless way to counter her because she may be running add ons that allow to:
-Tremendously increase speed while phase walking
-Execute her phase walking noises to the entire map
-And so much more
I bet me and so many more will tell you Spine Chill and Iron will is best. Off the Record is also great because spirit relies on hemorrhage and grunts of pain while in her phase walking state. Many spirits may be running perks or add-ons that may cause you to reveal grunts of pain or produce hemorrhage. Hope this helps bud!
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A perkless way, you don't have enough hours to understand. Run Meta, that's your best hope.
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Best thing you can do is make distance to force her to use a lot of her phase duration. You can do double vaults where you fast vault once and slow vault back the other way. Crouching in a random direction can make you a little more silent. Basically, just be unpredictable and hope she messes up. There’s really not much you can do.
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Stealth early.
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Don't get found at all.
The moment you get found and hit the first time, it's basically over. A good Spirit player will never let you get the chance to heal up to healthy again. It's going to be a cycle of getting hooked, rescued then going down very shortly after and straight back to the hook.
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Run Perks like DS&UB Adrenaline and BT every game? Wheres the fun in that? I'd rather lose and have fun then win and feel dirt cheap. Why I don't play Freddy
That was a Joke Freddy mains please don't crucify me
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I see, thank you I'll keep that in mind
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Vault a window or pallet over and over so they blow their ear drums out.
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That was all very helpful, thank you!
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Good idea, heck maybe it'll work on other killers too...
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Yeah but, spirit players tend to have the volume turned up.
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Lots of your guy's comments are actually not a way to counter spirit. If you have gone up against a spirit not being found is hard, especially when you get a map that you can't blend in well. Vaults and Hiding is not an option.
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You don't. Sorry m8.
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:(
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Get your electron microscope out and look for the pixels that change colour when she's going into phase mode
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Fair advice, just gotta order one off Amazon Prime...
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ouija board
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Coordinate yourself with at least one other player and just hide in lockers until she DCs because its 4am
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LMAO
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I have looking for an counterplay for spirit for 1 year and if finally finded one
Unistall the game, she cant find you if you arent playing
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There are lots of ways to counter spirit without perks. The number one way is crouching and avoid grass. Crouching makes you considerably quiter even when injured and avoiding grass makes it harder to track you.
Another thing is pallet and window mindgames. You can drop a pallet and run, drop a pallet and walk to not leave scratchmarks, drop a pallet but stay on the side tou dropped it on. This can confuse spirits into thinking your on the other side.
And of course slow vaulting a dropped pallet, you can also fast vault a pallet to bait the spirit, for example if you drop a pallet in front of you and then fast vault to the other side the spirit may think you vaulted to the side you were just at.
One of the most common window strats is fast vaulting and then immediatly slow vaulting back. This works but is more know and expected by spirits.
Remember to be predictable and not do the same mi dgame in a row. Unless its a mix up to throw them off. Another thing to note is spirits speed, if she phases to you but is still a but away you can run her for a while before her power comes back.
When a spirit phases at you in the open crouching works best for double backing or taking an alternate route to where you were going.
When people say spirit has no counterplay just know they are salty survivor mains that dont want to adapt. Be unpredictable and have a plan. Good luck👍
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This actually helps the spirit. When you continually fast vault there's only one place you can be....
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My best advice would be to play Spirit yourself to better understand what she can and can't do. Get a feel for things like her phase duration, cooldown, speed, and how the various add-ons affect her power. You'll stand a better chance if you can predict what the Spirit will do before she does it. Granted, it is largely a guessing game. But you can still make educated guesses based on experience.
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######### at first hook. That's the only counterplay
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Bold move running no perks. Lets see if it works out for him.
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Perkless? stealth and the very moment you hear the woooosh go walking into hiding until you have positive confirmation she isnt around any longer, other than that there isnt much against her, especially perkless.
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Is this a troll thread?
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I'm a troll that's no secret, but no I'm being serious here. I struggle quite abit vs this killer but instead of calling for a nerf if prefer to adapt and take her head on(wink wink)
Problem is I don't know how exactly I'm going to do that, so I need you cuties too point me in the right direction
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You can't, that's all.
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Don't panic and run instantly. The moment you do you're giving her a better trail to follow, whereas she's left with a guessing game when coming up to a generator, for example. Spirit has to choose between spending more time getting closer, which gives you a bigger buffer to stealthily walk away before running, or she can be further back to get a better view, but it gives survivors more time to run to a safer area/lead her away if spotted.
If you don't have a way to out her phasing at pallets, you should simply throw the pallet early and run. Her mindgames are basically just a stronger version of Pig's, but you should treat them the same way. People forget that, outside of Phase Walk, Spirit is a slower killer, and therefore all time outside of it she is just a weaker M1 killer. If she's actively chasing you, she's even weaker than Hag, since there's no fear to run into other areas.
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hide and genrush
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You don't
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I've heard a few large-brain individuals on the forum say Spirit should be reacting to you, not the other way around. So try standing still to make the Spirit think that YOU are phasing.
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There are a few ways which have helped me against Spirit, or at least things which may give you more of a chance of not getting blasted by her sudden attacks:
1). As @ALostPuppy said, standing still when you hear the phase will make it harder for Spirit to locate you accurately.
2). Her phase sound is directional. Listen carefully and you can locate which side she is approaching from. However, this doesn't work when trying to mindgame at a loop with a pallet between you. There seems to be a certain proximity where this doesn't work.
3). Sometimes, running eratically to muddle the scratch marks can confuse her, although with an experienced Spirit this probably won't work.
4). Always walk and make as little noise as possible. Crouching when hearing the phase is worthwhile.
5). If you're injured and bleeding ... well, you're out of luck there. Pretty much nothing you can do except hope and pray she screws up. I find this is the part that especially needs looking into redesigning by the devs.
So it's tough, but there are things you can do.
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I am a Spirit player who tends to run off-meta builds, typically involving Devour Hope.
Force out phase early, and be unpredictable. The more I'm in phase, the more juke opportunity you have. I personally play an ultra-aggressive Spirit, so if you face one like me, make a mental map of all the tiles. Stay near safe ones, stick to the shadows and most of all burn my time. Make sure my phase is always on CD.
TL;DR: Force me to phase as much as possible, remember the safe tiles, abuse windows, and hide as much as possible.
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This video is a bit old and back when spirit still had collision during her power. Since then she has been nerfed a few times. But this video is still very relevant.
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Dont find yourself in a match against a Spirit. Simple.
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Spirit is a killer with a terrible design. You can clearly see that developpers had an idea and didn't think about how to make it balance for the game.
A Spirit has no counter with Stridor.
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Just don't get seen :D
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@Reinami This was ALSO when sound was messed up and NOT directional.
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Hide in a locker all game.
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Drops pallet while she's chasing you to make her guess which side you're on. Do the same thing with window vaults.
Avoid grass, crouch to make less noise (even when injured), and walk to hide your scratch marks.
Pull a 180 degree turn so that she phases right through you and gets confused.
Blend together these strategies and others so that the Spirit never knows what you're thinking or planning and can't predict you.
Best advice of all is to play her for a bit and get a feel for how her power works and how the game looks from her perspective. Alternatively watch some streamers. Tru3talent and fungoose have loads of educational videos of them outrunning Spirits.
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Nothing tbh. If she uses her power when you arent injured stop running and in general if you think she is phasing sotp running. Also try blinding her whenever she stands still. If it blinds her it means she isnt phasing but if it doesnt it means she is phasing.
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