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What do you think about Demogorgons changes? Is he worthy playing now or is he trash now?
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In case you missed the changes:
THE DEMOGORGON
Our focus for The Demogorgon is to give it more mobility with its portals. We’ve made the following changes to base portals:
- Increased speed while in a portal
- Reduced cooldown after exiting a portal
- Increased Undetectable length after exiting a portal
On top of these changes, we have done a complete pass on The Demogorgon’s add-ons to make some of the lesser used ones more appealing.
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Still no rat liver base and if they touched it in the addon pass imma lose it.
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We'll almost certainly need more specifics than what they gave us to make that call.
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Improvements, but not enough.
I bet he still stomps loud enough to hear him from the next match over when he exits a portal.
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He is, maybe, the loudest killer in the game. Undetectable statut it's quite useless...
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I never thought he was that weak, so it'll be fun using him a little more.
The Undetectable effect *before* was literally pointless. By the time you got your bearings the effect was gone.
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Rat Liver needs to be basekit, and the undetacheble effect being buffed doesn't mean anything when you hear how loud his footsteps are. If they would address these two major issues with Demo, he would be way better than C Tier right now.
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Rat Liver should be basekit for sure, even though Demo is decent (a solid decent) I still think it needs more.
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I don't know, for me he is more like a B tier. It's fair to go against and for me it's fun to play as.
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Because he's very add-on reliant, his portals are almost aggressively mediocre and not very useful most of the time, and Shred (albeit very good) doesn't work at a decent amount of loops.
Combine that with his many downsides, like the mapwide sounds and stomps, and clunkiness of the portals, and how simple it is to counter him, you get kinda a reverse Freddy - jack of all trades but not very good at any.
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I don't quite get the point of reworking his add ons when you're not fully addressing the reliance on specific add ons in the first place. Rat Liver is still going to be a necessity, so you'll still only have one slot for the new unique add ons.
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Demo is my main, and I think his base kit is honestly pretty strong, so I'm not going to complain about some slight buffs to it. What I don't understand though is making the Rotten Pumpkin a straight downgrade to what it was before. The "make your power worse for some BP gain" is really dumb to me.
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Especially on a Very Rare add-on. These BP trade off add-ons should all be common.
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Still didn't fix ANY of his issues.
He needs a full Freddy-esque rework to get people to play him.
He's just not interesting
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A PWYF Demo build can be very fun to play. What's not great about him is using his portals, in any way.
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Still need to see what his new addons are & how much were numbers change.
I really hope they kept his rat liver grey addon. It really completed him.
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Nah.
His jack of all trades kit is boring. He isn't good at anything and it shows in his pick rate. People find him difficult for no reason, considering his lackluster payoff.
Rework him to be specialized in SOMETHING.
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He just needs a few shred buffs and a silencing buff to be good.
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I see many good demos do fine without using rat liver. Giving him more mobility is a way better buff
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That isn't his problem.
He's very mid-tier and has a respectable level of power.
The issue is that there is NO reason to play Demo.
Want ranged attacks? Pyramid Head, Deathslinger, Huntress and Freddy are all better.
Want stealth? Wraith, Myers, GhostFace and Pig all do it better.
Want map traversal? Billy, Nurse, Spirit, Oni and Blight all do it better.
Want anti-loop? Clown, Freddy and Pyramid Head all do it better.
Want traps/things you place down? Hag and Trapper are both better.
Everything Demo does, someone else does better. It's the Trickster problem all over again. Why play Trickster when Huntress (or Deathslinger) is objectively better in every scenario?
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Freddy doesn't have a ranged attack.
There will always be a killer that does a thing better than another one. Huntress is better than Deathslinger, Pyramid Head and Trickster, so why play ANY of them over Huntress?
What killer combines teleporting like Hag/Freddy, with a ranged attack like Pyramid/Deathslinger?
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I swear people have stopped making fun of the meme about Freddy's lunge, and started to actually take it at face value.
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The Freddy thing was a joke, since sometimes Freddy do be getting some questionable hits.
Huntress is better than Deathslinger, but can't hit over most loops and has a MASSIVE lullaby. Deathslinger has a tiny TR. Pyramid Head's power can hit THROUGH loops and solid objects, something neither Deathslinger or Huntress can do, plus his secondary power is cool and allows him to completely negate BT or DS.
There is no reason to play Trickster.
Explain why Demo has the lowest pickrate (other than Plague). It isn't because he's weak, he isn't high tier, sure, but he isn't Legion.
It seems clear to me that it's because he's boring and difficult. Also, he sucks on Console, Shred lowers FPS massively.
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Demo has been worth playing since his release, the reason he is such a turn off is because of how unforgiving his power is, once you put in the time he becomes a very solid killer but most people don't seem to have the patience to learn his kit. I am very glad they didn't change his base kit all that much because he really doesn't need it, his add-ons are the only severely lacking thing about him and hopefully those changes are nice.
In terms of rat liver being base-kit, if enough people really think it would make a difference then sure why not, personally I've been running demo add-onless for most of his life and I really think he doesn't need it as much as people say he does, but to each their own.
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I hope they didn't do anything to Rat Liver, if that add-on becomes useless after this add-on pass, my painfully grinded 400 Rat Livers would not be happy.
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Yeah, i wish they'd stop with useless addons like that. At least things like padded jaws have synergy with stbfl stacks.
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Demo has never been trash. heh?
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