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So...What do killers really want from survivors.
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Please explain how survivors cheat
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-Not being the clicky, clicky flashlight guy.
That would be all from my side.*
But... The worst on survivors is for me to see on the forums.
-The constant cry for nerfs of killers (that are also sooner or later get most of the time done by bhvr then),
-The total disrepect of them towards killers, not important of what they are saying, or what their motivations are,
-That they only think on their fun and most of them not a second also on the killers fun,
Is the reason why I doubt that dbd will ever develop in a healthy state for both sides.
I understand every game, not important if single or multiplayer game so, that it has different characters for different type of players. Much like in tv shows, or movies (it is not a secret that the different characters in tv shows and movies are there to make differernt type of people watch the movie - aka more people).
If you take 1 of those characters out, the danger is that you take away the reason for a part of the playerbase, to play this game and to have fun (in relation to dbd).
While this potentially could also be said about survivors, so is the impact on survivors usually smaller, because usually not their basekit gets nerfed. Just their perks and so can the guys who want to be stealthy, still being stealthy, the guys who want to run all day long in circles, still doing their looping and so on.
That is not the case by killers, because they usually getting nerfed on their basekit and so comes the problem from above more often up. I would be happy if survivors would finally consider this and as a consequence, also think more on the killer side.
Edit: *I have nothing against a normal use of flashlights, but "click, click, click, click, click, click...." Whoa, that had always kill me as I played dbd regularly, back in the day.
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I want them to die (in game) lol.
This game gets people all kinds of salty. Killer, survivor, doesn't matter. People have their own 'this is how the game should be played and if you don't play by my rules or ideal then you suck etc etc etc'.
Play how you want and ignore the angry people.
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i want you not to hide all game, i want you not to win, i want you not to loop, i want you not to vault windows, i want you not to drop pallets, i want you not do gens.
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Just gimme a couple chases and don't teabag me a gate when you destroy me. Im just a simple green rank i fear the almighty red rank and their immense speed when it comes to teabagging at gate or pallet.
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This is a game. Humans are toxic by nature.
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I can totally relate to you on that one lol
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It's annoying to just spend 10 minutes finding the last 2 survivors with 5 generators left.
You're obviously going to lose. So just make it quick and end the game fast, it's annoying for both sides to just waste ten minutes.
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If that killer is complaining about looping, it's a case of the "Get goods" for them and they can be safely ignore.
Play hard, and expect your opponant to play hard back, gg where appropriate.
That is the only rule that should exit
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yep
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"So what do killers want from survivors?".
Good question, it has a different answer depending on what kind of Killer you got.
- A decent match with no lame stuff.
- An easy stomp with no lame stuff from the Survivor side (its fine if I camp but dont you dare genrush me).
If you get 1. they will usually say gg even if they lose or just skip the postchat and onto the next trial, if you get 2. you will probably get salt even if they 4k because some people get angered at anything.
P.D. In this case Im inclined to believe the Survivor because he died and got 18K, you dont die with that amount of points by staying inmersed on a corner, real inmersed players rarely get more than 10k if they die.
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Killers won’t be happy until survivors spawn on hooks.
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There are no communication tools in the game of Dead by Daylight. Therefore, using any external tools to communicate with your allies in Dead by Daylight is cheating. I know you're brain-dead, because you play survivor, but this really isn't that hard to grasp.
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I'm new to the game. I've been playing for a month. Out of several hundred hours I've only once gotten a chat that ridiculed me (which was rather unfair as I was playing in the hospital, I map I'd only gotten a couple of times (the map rotation was buggy for some of us after the Trickster update) and the killer was an expert with the Demogorgon, which I'd only faced like twice because everyone was playing as the Trickster. I had the misfortune of joining the game at the exact same time that he came along. Anyway the Demo player was fine, he congratulated us. But one of the other players said "Wow, what a ######### team. Thanks a lot for helping out by doing absolutely nothing Mike. Really appreciate it. I only did 4 gens by myself. Thanks again". I mean, I was trying to avoid the Demo while also desperately looking for the last generator, I wasn't sure what else I was supposed to do. One player had already disconnected, the second one died right after, so it was me and a guy who was apparently another expert and demanded the same. It was a ######### thing to say.
I play for fun and sportsmanship, I survivor main because it's more my style (it's like an online game of Monstrum) but I enjoy playing as the killers too, I don't hate either side. I also don't care if I win or lose, I just want to have a decent game. I've found that a lot of people seem to treat the game as some kind of tournament which they MUST WIN AT ALL COSTS and then mock you for losing. I don't get that mentality but I'm 43, I got out of high school a long time ago.
Anyway I'll just repeat something that I saw online when I googled the game and "why are DBD players so toxic" was one of the first suggested pages. Out of curiosity I clicked it and the response was something like "Because the killers all think they're superior to survivors and deserve 4Ks all the time while survivors only want to loop and drop pallets on the killer's head". XD
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I hate to double-post but that kind of refers to the post I made just before this one: I think the other player was pissed off because we didn't encounter each other all match, I think he just assumed that I was hiding the whole time. I believe that we were both running around and just didn't cross paths, it's a complicated map.
But yeah, as a survivor main, I'll agree straight-up that hiding all game is annoying for me, too. It's not just a lame way to play (is it even "playing"? Why play at all?), it burdens the other three survivors with that much more work and exposure. I may not like killers who camp, but I recognize it as a fair, counterable strategy. Survivors who just hide and refuse to participate? They make the game more needlessly difficult for literally every other person in the match.
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That's not exciting to me because the misleading scratch marks and bad sounds conspired to make me lose the survivor, instead of it just being me who lost them.
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We want a fair chance, which you only get right now with the top 3 killers or pink and purple add-ons.
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I just want good sport survivors but I get sore winners or sore losers, rarely I get good sports, I prefer looping since that is what I have fun with, I've never heard of a killer that dislikes looping if they do then they are the problem.
Just today I was trying to do a daily with legion, 1 hit survivor dc'ed (I get the hate towards legion I was there when they were released) then the other 3 did not want to do gens and just hid except an OoO that I had since she couldn't.
At the egc I get "no fun legion" "we were just meme-ing" couldn't just say something like yeah I just want to move on from this match or gg and move on?.
Next match as legion again, survivors hid, 5 minutes passed and not a single gen was touched, I afk'ed for a bit, went for a drink took me like 3 min and come back and still not a single gen was done, found 1 hit him with ff and found the rest just hiding in the outside of the map, they decide to kill themselves on hook, at the end game chat again I get "why not play with non annoying killers" match lasted almost 25 min.
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I think you making stuff up
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It isn't a guarantee. I have escaped many times by being able to be patient and slowly prep the gate to just before the light comes on, then waiting for the killer to come by and leave, only to open it before he comes back.
If the killer is running Corrupt Intervention, Pop, Ruin, and Undying, I feel no remorse in dragging the game out. They want a long game, I'll give them one.
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Well that's different because there's the EGC in play.
And sure; play however you want. Just don't take the game hostage and hide for ten literal minutes if there's no sign of victory.
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I want to be feared and respected. I chose this role because it's the power role, not because I don't get bullied enough in my real life.
I hate, hate, hate it when survivors choose a method to "outplay" me with absolutely no effort on their part. It disgusts me to no end. The sheer amount of second chances that some survivors evidently need is enraging to me. If you run DH UB BT DS/Kindred, you don't deserve to complain at me for running Sloppy or NOED. If you bodyblock, you should be thankful that I don't camp or slug you. If you T-bag and clicky-clicky me at every. Single. Vault. Don't complain when I smack you on the hook.
I do my absolute best to be both effective and fun to play against. I never rarely camp, rarely tunnel (if you switch to an item that counters my killer at the last possible second, you'd better be good even with your second chances), and I can only remember slugging once (rank 12 Trapper on Haddonfield, against good survivors, and I only had two left and the one I slugged was on her death hook, so I needed to look for the hatch).
If I wanted to play scummy, I would have every justification to. But. I. Don't.
If I do everything right, I deserve to be treated that way.
I want to be treated like a person. Is that so damn unreasonable?
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I agree with this completely, even if it seems a bit like I wouldn't.
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Of course you would be the one to defend someone complaining after getting a 4k with max BP.
Wouldn't expect it from anyone else.
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There have been times when I was the last survivor and the killer was just too good, I wasn't going to win. I didn't just sit and hide, but of course I obviously did my best to evade him or her as I attempted to locate the hatch or make some kind of progress. On these occasions, when the killer inevitably found me, I would usually just stand there and let them take the win, sometimes gesturing for them to do so. There's no point in artificially prolonging the inevitable, I'd just as soon move on to another match as I assume they would as well.
I see lots of ragging on the survivors. I see just as much ragging on the killers. For every 9 Dead By Partisanship comments I see, there's 1 sensible comment that says "I wish people would just enjoy the game, play it as intended, and be good sports whether they win or lose". Those are the posts that make the most sense to me, and I'm sad to see such logic dismissed by so many (just generally speaking). It's just a game. People don't need to be so angry and hateful towards each other about it. But, as has been pointed out, that's the world we live in I guess.
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Don't worry, I'll never hold the game hostage. But I will take my sweet time looking for totems and opening chests before I reveal myself, only if the killer played scummy from the start and it's obvious my team is a bunch of solo potatoes.
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I'm not defending anything. That was an actual list compiled of things I've actually been told in game.
Wouldn't expect a strawman from anyone else.
Sit down.
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If you're replying to the OP and are against what they said, you're defending what they're against.
Doesn't require much brain power to figure that out.
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As killer main, I have 4 requests:
1) DO NOT ABUSE EXPLOITS
2) quit t-bagging at the exit gates
3) no more than 2 flashlight stun chains or Head On stuns (talking back to back, like as soon as one ends you hit with the other
4) Treat us with the same decency you give a dog that tried to do a trick for you
We (killers) are not your babysitters or your punching bags. We aren't the ones who took your lunch money in 3rd grade. You may have personal issues going on in your life, but please, don't take that out on us. Killers are people too (except for Demo, he's a monster from another dimension!)
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It does on the other hand require brainpower to think of an argument that isn't a strawman.
Think about that.
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