[RANT]When will SWF be adressed
Just had a game where none of the 4 survivors could loop for ######### but just sat on gens the entire game. Every chase was under 20 seconds and they still win by just sitting on gens. It was so blatantly obvious they were a SWF too 3 objects. They literally just predrop every pallet and hold W and they just win by holding 2 buttons. Like honestly when are SWF gonna be adressed in some way. They just spam vaulted windows and instadropped pallets and somehow still won cause you cant mindgame with 3 objects and they all just sat on different gens. I try to play weaker killers and use off meta perks but this ######### just makes me want to run triple slowdown nurse or spirit and just make their lives miserable.
EDIT: I was just really salty when I mad this post I definetly made some major misplays andwas just looking for something to blame it on lol.
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I could be wrong but what your describing doesn't really seem like a swf problem it's more of a gameplay design flaw problem.
Solos could have easily done the same thing your describing.
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Never.
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Object is getting reworked.
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solos generally dont have the ability to split up on gens perfectly and not lead the killer to their teammates.
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They only won by pressing buttons?
what exactly are you doing when playing killer? Somehow... not press buttons... in a videogame?
maybe you should start using buttons like M1 and M2 to injure survs and such
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When killers start spending as much on cosmetics as survivors do
Vote with your wallet :p
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Never will be, since this is multiplayer game, and it would be outrages to not be able to play with friends. But I feel when playing with a SWF, survivors should not be able to rank up. Like they won't de-ranked. But they cannot rank up. So you don't have a bunch of red ranks who clearly just ranked up, who just are getting carried by their friends. And killers should get bonus bloodpoints when vs a SWF. This here is the best thing they could do.
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First of all, that's not a swf issue. Second swf can never be "addressed" because if they ever do something to nerf swf this game will die.
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I mean they could actually buff solos to swf level mostly (without throwing the info on perks!)and buff killers accordingly so swf isnt some godly advantage anymore? But i mean thats a good idea probably never gonna happen.
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That just means new killers would get most swf, and they have it rough already
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Even in SWF you have the ability to bring the killer to your friends. In certain maps you can’t explain your exact location. At best you might be able to say “I’m at shack on a gen”... other times it’s “ All I see is a wall and a tree”... because that is what it is.
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If every chase is under 20 seconds that's quarter gen, sure 3 people can get 1/4 gen, but they have to rescue their friend, go off gen, that's 2 on gen of coordinated, meanwhile you will find another survivor on gen, 2 are busy healing unless self care, you are chasing one.
After 20 seconds you are in advantage, they healed and instantly have to save another friend, now only 1 guy is on gen, and 1 that's just coming back to gen.
Without a doubt, if I could down almost aneone in 20 seconds they would be happy to repair 2 gens before they all would be on death hook or just generally on hook since they might be letting them hang there and give a gen couple of repairing touches.
Lastly I have a TIP for you actually, if you're someone who doesn't really know where to go I suggest you take an op perk called Tinkerer, it's completely free from Hillbilly and tells you where gens are being done, it's pretty useful not only does it tell you when gens are done but on top of that you also got the benefit of 0 terrror redius.
Also pop goes the weasel seems good in that situation too.....
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Is that a video with a killer player that wins without pressing buttons? Otherwise I don’t wanna waste my time watching it..
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its a monkey playing video games with its brain without pressing buttons.
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Until MMR exists and the obvious flaws in high skilled killers vs high skilled survivors shows, and the developers giving solo queue survivors more tools that SWF have, which will discourage SWF and encourage solo play due to the effects of MMR + default tools for solo queue, you won't see anything done to help killers.
But the far more likely scenario is the developers completely ignore high MMR games, nerf the 2 killers that everyone plays, and stick to making the games focus be on 95% of the community.
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In the far-flung future, because balancing SWF without screwing over some other portion of the playerbase is a tough task to tackle and it's far better done right than done quick.
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Well, that’s the killer players that complain about button pressing then!
(but seriously, thanks for the link. Kinda creepy how they experiment with the monkey, but interesting non the less..)
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Except not really because usually solo que has 1 good survivor, probably you, and your 3 teammates who are boosted garbage. You need to be the one to sit on the gens the whole match, because we all know they're not going to. SWF has significantly faster gen speed because if you're committed enough to winning to make a 4-man team, you're committed enough to actually play smart and sit on gens whenever possible, rather than being a solo who turns off their brain and twiddles their thumbs. With an actual good 4-man, the killer can do all they can to out-loop you, but they can't out-gen you. The match is decided before it's begun.
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As someone for whom this is the norm (not the OoO, the everything else) I can definitely say that there's not much to be done. I've had over a year to test every possible counter to predrop-and-W I can think of and the only effective strategy is camping someone in a deadzone. And by "effective" I mean "they still just stick on gens but now you maybe get a kill". Or you play one of the 3 killers that can reliably counter it.
That being said, it's not so much a SWF problem as it is SWF grouping together to abuse a gameplay design flaw (holding W).
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Buffing solo queue and killer is the answer to "fix" swf. I'm just saying that nerfing swf is a horrible idea.
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