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Survivors that wait on hatch exits. Hatch Dwellers
This is a rant from a fellow survivor main.
I recently played a round where I had the killer chase me for a good 15 minutes through lery's theater, yet only 2 generators completed. It brought me to realize someone wasn't putting their share in the game. Meet tommydiehard (twitch), once I finally gave my all in the chase and was killed, I watched this one player do absolutely nothing but hide in closets and wait for all other survivors to die. Why? Because this a****** had a key. And the biggest comedy, this guy has a twitch channel??? I wanna rat these players out in the forum, if you know survivors that don't add something to a team playing game, call them out here. Let's exit out the lobby if they show up. And shame on developers who don't do a damn thing when players are repeatedly reported in game.
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It also sucks for me as a killer
When there are two people at the end, one I know is working on gens because I can see them doing it and the other one playing Hide & Go Seek, by default I want to find the one hiding because I've been that gen working survivor far too many times (I'd rather just die getting the points I can from doing the gens instead of hiding for 10 minutes hoping the other guy gets caught first). But I also don't want to spend 10 minutes looking for the damn survivor who is just hiding because I would like to have this game end at some point in my lifetime...
Also Naming & Shaming is against the rules of the forum FYI. So you'll want to edit out the streamers name.
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It's a royal pain, but it's not reportable to be a useless/selfish teammate. Players who screw each other over because they're trying to survive and don't care about their team's survival are still playing the game, just in a way that's terrible for everyone around them. It doesn't break any rules unless you are directly contributing to your teammates' deaths and your actions can't be explained in any way that's beneficial to you - which is pretty limited to pointing the killer at your teammates, or making loud noises where your teammates are doing gens and then hiding. Leading the killer to teammates to get him off your tail is legitimately playing the game, even if it's getting them killed. Urban evading in bushes for ten minutes is legitimately playing the game, even if it's forcing your team to play with three members.
I don't like it any more than anyone does, but it's unfortunately difficult to draw the line between deliberate selfishness (I'm going to camp hatch and wait for other survivors to die/I'm going to unhook you in the killer's face because I want bloodpoints) and behavior that stems from being new or bad at the game (I'm scared and confused, so I'm going to hide/I'm going to unhook you in the killer's face because I think this is how unhooks work), so there's no consistent way it could be reported regardless.
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I feel the same way. When I have this situation - two people left with one or two gens left, one emerges to do a gen, one is locker bouncing - I let the person on the gen do their thing while I look for the stealther, and when the exit gates are powered, I catch the survivor who was being useless when they run for the gates (and if the person who did gens tries to save them, I down them and bring them back to the gate - though I find that rarely happens, because they're just as annoyed with their teammate as I am.) If I don't get them, sucks, but at least I rewarded the player who was trying to end the game legitimately.
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The developers do nothing when you can report a player not playing, so I'll keep the survivors name on here. Maybe they should act on some of the features they created in game.
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If you do nothing to help your team mate if they're on the hook, you are helping them die, that's not playing, and possibly trolling. Even if you report someone, the developer does nothing anyway.
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You can go ahead and do that if you want, I can only give you the information. All naming and shaming is going to do is get your thread locked and deleted but if that's the hill you wish to die on, that's your call.
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Let me already say, this forum is a small modicum of venting, if they wanna remove a post for rating out trolling players, maybe they should offer something for the countless amounts of problems players have in this game. I spent the better part of 3 years playing this game to get to where I am, but guess what they are matchmaking with players that belong on beginner. If you paid for this game, your voice should be heard, not silenced.
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The devs do nothing because you're reporting something that isn't against the rules. Also, you do need to remove that name; callouts are considered harassment.
You're not going to last very long if you define your own rules and break the existing ones in the process.
Yes, you're indirectly helping your teammates die if you make plays that put them in danger or never unhook them, but I already explained how it's impossible to stratify between all-out-selfish plays, stupid plays, and selfish plays that happened because the player calculated that making the altruistic play would have ended badly for everyone. You can't ask the players whether something was justified; they're biased and are often going to assume the worst of their teammates' intentions when they get snubbed mid-game. I've been yelled at for not rescuing a teammate in EGC against a Hag with NOED who was actively chasing me out the gate. I've been yelled at for not unhooking because the killer followed me to the hook and I ran on by hoping that someone else would come for the save while the killer was chasing me, not wanting to unhook in the killer's face, and nobody else did. I've found hatch and waited for it because my other remaining teammate was in a chase and there was no plausible way I'd be able to unhook them due to the killer's power/playstyle/me being injured. And there's been times I just have an archive to do an obnoxious task and escape, I got the obnoxious task done, and I barely ever escape on solo queue anyway, so I'm going to focus on number one when the gates get opened. Sometimes it's just how it goes, and the game would be a much worse experience if you could get banned because someone got mad you didn't help them.
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I've never had that many complain messages from other survivors, and like I've said, I've been playing for 3 years.
The devs ask us what we want changed or fixed, then add more bugs in the mix. Always having the mindset that "that's how it is, guess we can't do anything." is why we don't get heard.
The least I'm asking is if a player is being reported constantly for not participating, as that is one of the options, then bring their tier level down and let them play with the like.
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Let me also say, most survivors play well with others, but with matchmaking currently, I have seen teams where non participation is happening 1/3 matches. Don't reset our level if you can't place us with players that fit our difficulty.
And yes I'm aware these arguments are being had in other discussions, but it fits with the narrative.
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I got stuck in a game for an extra 15 minutes because there was only 2 of us left and i was the only one attempting to do gens. The killer was mighty pissed off at the guy trying to hide and refused to kill me or let me do gens, and wanted me to rat out the hatch camper.
We bumped into him when the killer let me complete one gen ( was 2 to go) and he managed t dodge the killer after we both ran through the building (i will admit i kinda wanted him dead to for doing this so i kept running into him) long story short, killer found and killed him and gave me the hatch.
Hatch is bad for the game and needs to go.
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