What do you believe "gen rush" means?
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For me gen rush is if they let someone die to finish gens.
Using 4 toolboxes/bnp/prove thyself etc would be also gen rush for me.
So you see both is not really similar, so while i never use the term gen rush, i understand it as "scummy" tactics to do gens quick. And what scummy is, is subjective.
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"NOTHING in my post was about what SWFs do...." - Maybe, but you started your post with "Or they were 4 randoms".
This implies that either op or any comment made the assumption that the game op was talking about was versing a swf, which noone did and you brought into the discussion.
So, from my limited comprehension (according to you), you were the first and only one starting to make this another solo vs swf discussion, which is the same type of annoyance like whataboutism in threads about killer or survivor only side mechanics which often end in a us vs them argument.
And back to the point at hand, the fact that the other 3 survivor let the fourth go far into second phase can either mean coordination from an swf to leave them or the assumption of all separate survivor, that another one might go for the save (which normally ends with multiple survivor go to check). Therefore, in my eyes this argument is no real indication on the make up of the survivor team.
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Thats an issue right there with Trapper and how you may have played him, not gen rush. He doesn't have strong map pressure and really needs that time in early game to set up. Corrupt Intervention is almost a necessity on him. Hes not a killer who can stop and kick gens as he can't make up the speed later on (i.e. Hillbilly, Spirit, Hag, etc.). The fact that the gens popped at 80s each that they were working on them as you were chasing Meg. She got hooked as they were finishing the last 2 gens and rescued her before she got to stage 2. Maybe you engaged in another chase before it she got hooked, but that point was too late unless you started to slug.
Gen rushing imo is team full of purple toolboxes with BNP and perks. You can't do much to stop them at that point, but its key for killer to identify strong 3 gen and slug if necessary.
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Not really. You can still hook an entire survivor, find a recently unhooked person, and they could still have DS. Just means they weren’t doing anything
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Survivors being smart isn't gen rushing.
Leaving teammates to die on hook over gens, using multiple Prove Thyself and Engineer toolboxes, foregoing healing against a good killer to prioritize gens is genrushing.
Survivors completing gens fast because you're playing badly and not giving them anything else to do is not genrushing.
Crazy that people still complain about it when old BNPs could complete 3/4 gens in under 20 seconds at match start. Or commodius toolboxes (rip). An organised swf on a map like Ormond can still destroy gen speeds but thats an outlier, really. On most of the map reworks the devs have shrunk the maps so it shouldn't be bad in the future.
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I call a gen rush "playing the game as it was intended".
That said, I'm not going to pretend that I like super fast games on either side. I don't care so much about winning and getting lots of points, I play this game to...well, play the game. If most of my time is spent in menus and queues it's not very fun. I like my games to last at least 7-10 minutes or longer, if possible. That to me is a well-played match.
Blaming the survivors for trying to achieve the specific goal that they've been given though? Silly.
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it means doing all of the generators in a short amount of time. the actual definition of gen rushing is a lot more complicated
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Good commodus toolboxes and gen speed perks.
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Well maybe don't assume. Maybe instead of assuming one's intent - and posting a wannabe shady comment - you simply ask one's intent.
So since you keep talking about something I never even addressed - let me address it.
I have absolutely no issues with SWFs as a killer. I am a 50/50 player and rarely SWF when I play survivor. When I do SWF it's usually just me and 1 person. I don't think the majority of SWFs are nigh unbeatable like certain "mains" like to constantly post. I don't use hyperbole in my posts - I stick to the facts and my experience. So maybe next time when you have an assumption you will approach it in a more logical and mature way than to assume ill intent.
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