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Will VPN’ing Killers Ever Be Dealt With?
I cannot tell you how many times I have ran into a Killer who was VPN’ing at least on NA-East servers. It is obvious by their steam profile that they’re from an entirely different part of the world whether that be Brazil, China, Europe, etc. It is obvious that dedicated servers, when introduced to latency at high marks, have to find the middle between what’s on the killer’s screen and what’s on the survivor’s screen. Sometimes this middle ground simply isn’t accurate and when a killer with 250-300 ping is chasing a survivor with 50 ping this is going to create an advantage.
We see this in DBD tournaments where the killer and survivors are in completely different regions creating some unfair hits and unreliable chase awareness. Making a window against a VPN’ing killer is going to be much less secure than against a killer with fair ping. I seriously hope there is a hard ping lock on killers as I honestly have pretty garbage home internet and always have 60-70 ping. It’s obvious when somebody is playing from across the world and creates a really unhealthy chase mechanic in matches.
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Like SWF I don’t think they can really fix it
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I was about to say this is dumb but after reading what you put yeah this can be an issue but like swf they probably can't do anything
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It's not just killers. I've had survivors VPN from Japan, Korea and even Russia, and they are nearly impossible to chase.
Also, I somehow only get 120-140 ping when I jump across to NA east servers as a survivor (gotta love testing ping advantages) so I don't even know what kind of awful service they are using.
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Technically yes, all they have to do is improving hit validation. Penalize people with high ping.
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I can't speak for those who VPN in order to access servers in different continents, but for me, It's always been purely for protection. I had the unfortunate experience wherein I defeated a team of survivors only to get threatened in the endgame chat by someone who traced my IP address, knew my location, and said they would swat me. Fortunately they didn't follow up on that threat, but it left me pretty shaken. Seriously, who the hell does that over a loss in an online game?
With my family, and myself at risk due to what is and always has been my hobby at best... I couldn't take that chance anymore. I Subscribed to a VPN and while it does cut my connection speed in half, I feel secure that I can game without the chance that an asshat like that will ever be able to trace my IP anymore.
As for those who use VPN to join servers in different countries, Maybe give them a little slack. Sure they don't have the same reasons I do for using a VPN, but overall, have you ever thought that maybe the reason they do it is less about gaining a game advantage, and more about connecting to a better server with more players than their area currently provides? I know this can be frustrating, but maybe they don't really deserve all the hate you're giving them.
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I sympathize, man. I really do. Years ago I had a kid send me a frightening message with the location of my child's school and pictures of him. As for the players VPN'ing to play on better servers....not my problem. I'm sorry for them, but the crappy games they cause ruin it for everyone playing against them. Rubberbanding everywhere and missing hits because they're ten seconds ahead is no fun.
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Someone was able to find my ip address and location when I accidentally messed up in a solo game. I got so scared I stopped playing for a week.
People are scary on dbd.
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On Xbox at least, I've had people threaten to DDoS me countless time and a few that actually went through with it.
DDoS'ing is also extremely illegal in the US, and people usually back off when confronted with that.
Swatting is also highly illegal. I would suspect it's much more lax on PC, but I know Microsoft takes all of those threats very seriously.
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For every 100 cases someone complains about killers VPNing, there is one real VPN used at best.
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Whenever someone threatens you; take a photo/screenshot.
If they are on a platform with an account you can look up; do so. Then send the information to your local police. Hell, if it's death threats or, as one poster said, information about his child's school; contact the FBI (or your countries equivalent?). In most places, they take that stuff VERY seriously.
And with a screen name AND Xbox/PSN/Steam account, they can trace the person down.
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I wouldn't count on it. They said 150ms is a good ping.
Back to the topic, Dbd doesn't have servers in many region. They won't penalize people from those areas. Hit validation is therefore mostly a PR stunt.
There are latency hacks. That's probably what you went against. I fan into a few in the past couple of weeks.
Simple high ping survivors and they're hittable without problems.
I'd be on the lookout the next time the survivor seems laggy and slippery.
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That is so creepy.
Someone did this to me but it wasn't in dbd. It was from this guy that started texting me, he somehow got my phone number.
He was saying how he was gonna do all these things to me, even swat me and such.
I just called him a sorry loser twink that's so pathetically starved for attention that they had to resort to being a creep to get it. So sad. He never responded and fortunately he never followed up with the threats.
Anyway at first I was 100% in agreement but now that I've read some of these posts I can relate to them and see why they want protection from vile people like that.
You just never know who's the one making these threats. It could be a basement dweller with a god complex or someone that has no issues in actually going through with the threats.
Also, I made a post a while ago that kinda touched on a similar issue. There was a lot of wonderful discussion that was made and we even came to understand each other. That doesn't mean that we agreed but just understand.
So I'm a little more receptive when it comes to the internet connection of developing nations.
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Just to address the last point. Vpn'ing to connect to a better server is just false considering every game server for dbd runs the exact same hertz and software. Also theiattempts to locate a match for them that is in the best optimal location for ping, so its purely either for safety like yourself or to gain a competitive advantage. There is no room inbetween.
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That's really scary they found out your phone number. I admire your confidence to snap back at them but me I would have apologized and been terrified. I'm glad nothing happened afterwards.
It's stories like this that makes me what to be careful of people on the internet.
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Thanks, I was definitely playing with fire when I did that but I thought to myself that if they already went through the trouble to get my phone number then they'd follow through with the threats no matter what I did. So I decided to be as disrespectful as I could be. It was warranted, especially to people like that.
But yeah, I was told not say sorry or ask for mercy to an abuser because then they'd feel empowered to do more.
It's such a scary situation to be in, in those situations many people mostly react instead of thinking things through because of how shocking the whole thing is.
It's a major reason why I never answer phone calls from numbers that aren't in my contacts. Also because of robocalls.
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You know what'd help fix this issue? Give survivors a killer ping indicator, so when they join a lobby, they can see if it's a VPN'ing killer. If they see a killer with 300 ping, then they can dodge and VPN'ing killers will be penalized by getting dodged and have longer waiting times.
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How exactly do you propose they deal with the problem? The point of VPNs is to hide who you are. How do you expect them to know someone is using a VPN?
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Here i am raging at survivors with 70 ping while i have sub 20 to 25 ping as killer because pallets instantly stun and aim dressing gets messed up by it.
60 to 70 ping is just as unfair to a killer with good ping as a vpn killer is to you.
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PC master race, yo
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same for survivors
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You can use a locally hosted VPN for that layer of protection and have almost zero ping given the hop to the VPN is similar ping than your normal routing.
You didn't have to explain yourself aha.
If it didn't give an advantage nobody would give two shits.You need to understand there are players that do it exclusively to win. That makes it a problem that is fair to be addressed on the forum.
The solution is to make the server calculate the hit (not validate). Use interpolation to the lagging players client to compensate what they see behind time. All good competitive shooters, mobas and rts do this. It is undoubtedly harder to achieve with fighting games but I can assure you dead by daylight is no flagship for their netcode. What dbd currently has is comparable to For Honor. It works really well when all connections are low ping.
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This is the easiest solution and in fact we used to have this. When killers hosted the p2p connection you could dodge high ping lobbies. Now you're taking a shot in the dark if you are to commit to a game. I really miss that ping indicator of killer.
That said killer should have the same benefit.
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It's not a VPN thing.
If the killer disable the crossplay option, he will be paired with people from another region.
I'm from South America, I get paired with survivors from North America. Do I like it? Not even a bit.
And sometimes, at evening, without deactivating the crossplay options, the game chooses survivors from other regions to be paired with me.
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I’ve got 2 dc penalties this week from getting kicked out of incredibly laggy vpning killer games lol. The whole group gets sent to the main menu with a penalty
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