Remember Halo tea bagging?! DBD Toxic?!
Bit of a controversial rant here but here we go because I have seen so many people complain about "Toxic behavior". God forbid this is the first game to ever have that happen. Remember Halo 2?! Ya tea bagging and BXR and super bouncing etc etc. No one ever thought these were toxic but perfectly normal parts of the game. Or should I say "exploits". If it helps you win I say do it! Since when did the gaming world become a bunch of wimps lol xD
The way I see it.. at the end of the day and I'm not sure where this got lost in this games journey... but.... isn't it the killers job to kill the survivors? It's their job to do so no matter what right? Since when would Freddy, or the Pig, or the trapper, etc etc, have any type of "Morale compass" to play fairly in their killings? The way I see it, play the killer how you want and do your job and kill those little survivor's. And it's the job for the survivors to do anything they can to escape right? If anything when survivors teabag that's also taunting the killer. Not sure if I'd do that in real life but I know it's gonna piss off the killer to the point where they will face camp the next survivor they hook. And that is a repercussion to my actions of tea bagging. I now have caused the killer to focus more on killing 1 survivor instead of stopping gens being popped. Or possibly tunneling. And when I play the killer and I am face camping or tunneling there are pros and cons to that playstyle. I might get 1-2 kills by doing so. It just depends on every scenario and match.
So... furthermore you think in any competitive situation someone should throw away a competitive maneuver just because it is "frowned upon" by other players? I mean if it works why not use it right? I mean you could say, "well I lost because I wasn't toxic enough." Okay??? You lost because you tried a strategy like "fair play in the eyes of others" and you lost. If you don't feel like conforming to a certain playstyle because it doesn't make you happy than don't do it. Pretty sure camping was meant to be an option for killers hence the perk insidious. Standing still for x amount of seconds to hide your terror radius is a strategy. Waiting for a survivor to come back to try and get that last gen popped or save the survivor who is in second hook stage are all reasonable reasons to do so.
Long story short there are plenty of games where someone plays "fair" and they lose and someone doesn't play "fair" and they lose. And vise versa. I'm not saying one thing over the other but if someone wants to play a certain way and it isn't technically "Illegal" in the game than fair game. Until the developers decide to do something about it I say hate the game not the player.
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I like how you pasted this entire post into another thread.
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Actually it's funny you say that because I originally typed this up for that threat tbh. But thought maybe it warranted enough of a stand alone conversation? Shrug maybe not?
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The problem is, the game is broken beyond repair. It has a ton of exploits, abuses, unbalanced and plainly broken mechanics. So people abusing holes in the game's balance seems to most people unfair and toxic intuitively. You know that such concepts as "fair", "unfair", "honest", "dishonest" and the like are never written or defined, they are understood by most intuitively, they are a priori concepts of human mind. So most people just see that abusing second chance perks, loops, flashlights, camping, tunneling, slugging, etc, all this is unfair somehow, even if it's perfectly legal. You don't need a legal definition of "unfair" to see that something is unfair. The game is badly designed, it's broken and unbalanced, so an honest person would except people to understand all these problems and consider them while playing. But some people don't want to be "fair" and "honest", they just want to win, so of course they will abuse anything they can get away with. It's not about "this is part of the game, victory at any price", it's just about being honest and fair. You either are, or you are not. That should be the actual point of discussion.
By the way, did you know that using crossbows and some other weaponry was forbidden in medieval knight tournaments? Just because crossbows were viewed as an unfair weapon, even though they were "just a part of warfare, m8". It's the same here. If the devs can't provide us rules to make the game fair, players will make these rules themselves just for the sake of justice.
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I like that that makes a lot of sense. And without spending too much time making a whole long story I didn't convey some other people. For example if it were up to me this "toxic" gameplay would be done away with. But when I see both sides of the coin being abusable and knowing that any match I play can be abused by the other team. I want to be prepared for that to try and counter it. Cause the reality is is someone's always going to abuse a mechanic if it's in the game. I'm just proposing a perspective is all.
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