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Why was the working report form removed?

Lowbei
Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
Before a new one was finished?

Every time I ask this question, the response I get is “durrrr because they are making a new one!”

This neither answers the question, nor is acceptable. You had a working report form, now you dont.

There are dozens of examples of people going thru all the hoops of recording all the time, then sticking around for sometimes an hour or more in the scoreboard screen uploading a video and reporting, only to check the video two months later to see its got no new views, and the offending player is still playing.

Because of this, there has been a rise in hacking lately, and I will quote...

Speedhacker : “lol nobody cares scrub, they dont even look at your reports anymore”

And hes right. Youve clearly stopped caring about reports at all, and you are actively dodging the question posted in all QAs, in which youve got the question every single time, and refuse to aknowledge it despite the chat blowing up about it in caps as well.

Most posts about this topic, you either delete, sink, or remove claiming that they were derailed, instead of modding the person derailing it.

Please answer this valid question that your entire comminity thinks is important, because you care about your community, right?

Best Answer

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Answer ✓
    weirdkid5 said:

    @Lowbei said:
    powerbats said:

    I'll just leave this here since this is known to be unobtainable unless you hack the game client. I do wonder why if it's known so well by the devs why they 1 left it in game and 2 don't auto ban accounts the moment the game detects it's being used.

    They simply dont care anymore. Theyve moved their team on to the next project, left a skeleton crew here in dbd to finish the final dlc, where they will then transition into full free to play mode with a cash shop.

    Im sure some fanboy will come rage at me now claiming that they didnt pull the crew from dbd to work on deathgarden, because they believe anything theyre told.

    This is all baseless assumption with no backing and just makes you look silly. And I'm usually the one quick to say a company as abandoned a game, like I did when Deathgarden was annoucned.

    However, it is also quite ignorant to assume that BHVR doesnt have enough employees for a second game. Theyve been working on Deathgarden for some time now, the Game Director is Ash Panell, who was the Game Director for DbD until the Nurse came out. Clearly, the game kept being made.

    And full free to play nonsense? The game isnt going free to play. It's becoming like Siege, a game you buy with unlockable characters with the OPTION to buy them, and a huge cosmetic store. Siege is doing outstanding, and their roadmap for this year shows they have quite a lot in store for DbD for the remainder of the year, unless of course you haven't seen it.

    But of course, I dont think a skeleton crew would be able to create new characters, balance the game, stay communicative, AND create a slew of new cosmetics.

    You're literally just salty. If you know anything about me from Steam forums, you know i'm super quick to call out these devs on their bullshit.

    But in this case there is nothing yo call out aside from erroneously removing the report feature. The fact you somehow inferred they are dropping DbD due to this and Deathgarden is actually quite silly to me.

    lol what? it doesnt take a big crew to make cosmetics, in fact the art team has been cranking out cosmetics for ages, they simply have been saving them for the cash shop.

    its ironic to me that you can actively see them removing the person who deals with reports, thus its widely known that reporting does nothing, and also see them remove the report form itself, then claim that they have plenty of staff to keep it all going?

    laughable dude, and the hacker community finds it laughable too.

    this isnt rocket science. they are not reading reports, nor looking at videos. if you arent caught by EAC, you can do whatever you want. you can be in denial if that makes you feel better. no worries, you arent alone in the denial pool.

Answers

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    Because it was flooded by thousands of meaningless reports like "this noob killer camped me" / "please bann this guy" etc etc
    I feel really bad for the guy at BHVR who had to go through all this mess manually and sort the actual reports out by hand.

    Just because it seemed to work from your point of view, it doesnt mean that it actually worked out, always try another angle :wink: (might want to apply this logic to the survivor/killer OP debate aswell)

  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    Because reasons.
    Btw, it's your 2nd or 3rd thread about this.
    It's time to stop.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Runiver said:

    Because reasons.
    Btw, it's your 2nd or 3rd thread about this.
    It's time to stop.

    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.



  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2018
    Master said:

    Because it was flooded by thousands of meaningless reports like "this noob killer camped me" / "please bann this guy" etc etc
    I feel really bad for the guy at BHVR who had to go through all this mess manually and sort the actual reports out by hand.

    Just because it seemed to work from your point of view, it doesnt mean that it actually worked out, always try another angle :wink: (might want to apply this logic to the survivor/killer OP debate aswell)

    Of course we feel bad for the person who has to do it. Just like we feel bad for the people who do it in all games. But again, its their JOB. Its an important job, that ensures your players feel at least that someone at bhvr cares about their game.

    And its not that it worked “from my point of view”, its that it went from “ok they at least eventually ban hackers” to “they dont care”

    thats a huge difference, and is the difference between vets sticking around or leaving.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Lowbei said:
    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.

    So spamming until they answer is your way to do it ?
    Interesting.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2018
    Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.

    So spamming until they answer is your way to do it ?
    Interesting.

    Its not spamming to ask a question, days later after it went unanswered.

    The irony that you are flagging my post with a valid question, while not even attempting to answer it, just makes you look bad.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Lowbei said:
    Its not spamming to ask a question, days later after it went unanswered.

    The irony that you are flagging my post with a valid question, while not even attempting to answer it, just makes you look bad.

    The fact it's like, your 4th thread about it might be the reason.
    I'm not sure how it's irony tho. You might look up the definition of Irony just in case.
    Only devs can answer that question, not sure what randoms can do about it, and creating yet another new thread isn't gonna make them want to answer more.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    Its not spamming to ask a question, days later after it went unanswered.

    The irony that you are flagging my post with a valid question, while not even attempting to answer it, just makes you look bad.

    The fact it's like, your 4th thread about it might be the reason.
    I'm not sure how it's irony tho. You might look up the definition of Irony just in case.
    Only devs can answer that question, not sure what randoms can do about it, and creating yet another new thread isn't gonna make them want to answer more.

    This is my 2nd thread asking this question.

    The question was clearly for a dev, because they are dodging the question on QAs. If you werent being such a fanboy, this wouldnt trigger you so hard.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095
    edited June 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    This is my 2nd thread asking this question.

    The question was clearly for a dev, because they are dodging the question on QAs. If you werent being such a fanboy, this wouldnt trigger you so hard.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2246/why-did-you-remove-the-report-form#latest
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2546/can-we-expect-a-report-form-by-2018#latest
    AND this one.
    I count at least 3.

    I'm far from being a fanboy. I actually dislike that they removed this feature, and I actually hold quite the grudge against devs.
    I just don't feel like this forum should be polluted like the other discussion platforms has been.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    This is my 2nd thread asking this question.

    The question was clearly for a dev, because they are dodging the question on QAs. If you werent being such a fanboy, this wouldnt trigger you so hard.

    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2246/why-did-you-remove-the-report-form#latest
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/2546/can-we-expect-a-report-form-by-2018#latest
    AND this one.
    I count at least 3.

    I'm far from being a fanboy. I actually dislike that they removed this feature, and I actually hold quite the grudge against devs.
    I just don't feel like this forum should be polluted like the other discussion platforms has been.

    Thats two threads with this question, and again the other went unanswered for multiple days. The other question asked a time frame. This isnt rocket science. You are simply being a triggered fanboy and spamming the flag button, despite knowing that this is a valid question.

    Your logic of “well this is a valid issue i agree with, but I know the devs dont care, so I may as well call this pollution” is laughable. The irony is that people like you, flagging any post you disagree with, despite knowing its valid, are what ruined the previous forum, is kind of funny.

    At this point, your ego is bruised, and you will continue to attempt to argue with me to derail the thread. Stay on topic or leave.


  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Lowbei said:
    Thats two threads with this question, and again the other went unanswered for multiple days. The other question asked a time frame. This isnt rocket science. You are simply being a triggered fanboy and spamming the flag button, despite knowing that this is a valid question.

    Your logic of “well this is a valid issue i agree with, but I know the devs dont care, so I may as well call this pollution” is laughable. The irony is that people like you, flagging any post you disagree with, despite knowing its valid, are what ruined the previous forum, is kind of funny.

    At this point, your ego is bruised, and you will continue to attempt to argue with me to derail the thread. Stay on topic or leave.

    I'm just saying we don't need 3 threads about that, and 1 was enough.
    And you're going apeshit and trying to justify 3 threads.
    Keep going, I'll just leave I guess and stop giving you the attention this thread needs, since even tho it deserves some bumping considering the urging issue, you act like a moron about it.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    edited June 2018
    Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    Thats two threads with this question, and again the other went unanswered for multiple days. The other question asked a time frame. This isnt rocket science. You are simply being a triggered fanboy and spamming the flag button, despite knowing that this is a valid question.

    Your logic of “well this is a valid issue i agree with, but I know the devs dont care, so I may as well call this pollution” is laughable. The irony is that people like you, flagging any post you disagree with, despite knowing its valid, are what ruined the previous forum, is kind of funny.

    At this point, your ego is bruised, and you will continue to attempt to argue with me to derail the thread. Stay on topic or leave.

    I'm just saying we don't need 3 threads about that, and 1 was enough.
    And you're going apeshit and trying to justify 3 threads.
    Keep going, I'll just leave I guess and stop giving you the attention this thread needs, since even tho it deserves some bumping considering the urging issue, you act like a moron about it.

    There were zero threads about it on the front page. Now theres one.

    The only person going “apeshit” is you with your bruised ego for being called a fanboy.

    If you werent so triggered, you wouldnt have flagged the thread and whined about it while also admitting its a valid question lol.

    You will feel better later.

    Back on topic. Still waiting on a semi-decent answer to this very important question.
  • Zavri
    Zavri Member Posts: 261

    @Lowbei said:
    Runiver said:

    Because reasons.

    Btw, it's your 2nd or 3rd thread about this.

    It's time to stop.

    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.

    if your question wasn't answered, maybe it's a dumb ######### question!

  • DocOctober
    DocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    It's an absolute shame that it's gone. I understanding the reasoning, but being able to take action against actual cheaters is much better than not being able to do anything .

    I just had a game against a Trapper who played horrendously bad. Looping wasn't even necessary, he just easily lost track of you if you had a few basic line-of-sight blockers.

    Then post-exit when he got NOED, he started lagswitching and down us one by one. I had vaulted a window in the shop on Wretched Shop, ran all the way to the excavator, at least 40 to 50 metres from the shop, then I get suddenly teleported all the way back into the shop and am downed.

    I'm so unbelievably angry and frustrated by now, because I know that that absolute scum of a player won't get any punishment whatsoever for doing that.

  • weirdkid5
    weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,144
    edited June 2018

    They said they temporarily removed it for "overhauling." It'll be back, they are just adjusting it probably to make it easier for the mods.

    Still, doesnt mean they had to remove what already was working until then.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    weirdkid5 said:

    They said they temporarily removed it for "overhauling." It'll be back, they are just adjusting it probably to make it easier for the mods.

    Still, doesnt mean they had to remove what already was working until then.

    exactly. its ridiculous that they removed a working form to say they will someday replace it with a new one. also how does it take months to make one? its a form, not a whole new killer and map... oh wait... they got that finished faster than the form.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.

    So spamming until they answer is your way to do it ?
    Interesting.

    pathetic yeah, and this is exactly the reason why they shut down the email report system :wink:

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Master said:

    @Runiver said:

    @Lowbei said:
    If someone asks a valid question, and its not answered, they ask again.

    Furthermore, if you arent going to attempt to answer it, then dont come here whining about people asking it.

    So spamming until they answer is your way to do it ?
    Interesting.

    pathetic yeah, and this is exactly the reason why they shut down the email report system :wink:

    by that ignorant logic, we will of course never have any report system at all, because randos will always report when they lose a match. thats why it was someones “job” to sort thru them, to ensure the community had anti hack support.

    that no longer exists. thus theres speedhackers everywhere. thats just logic.

    Speedhacker : “lol who cares, they dont read reports anymore, much less watch your videos”

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    There were too many meaningless reports. I’m thinking that over 3/4 of the reports they got were “Noob Killer is camping plz ban him” or “I got pallet looped please ban the Survivors”. 
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    There were too many meaningless reports. I’m thinking that over 3/4 of the reports they got were “Noob Killer is camping plz ban him” or “I got pallet looped please ban the Survivors”. 
    all games get those kind of reports. thats what happens when you have online games. 

    the correct response isnt to just give up and let hackers in. 

    the correct response is to make false reporting a bannable offense.

    people report for ANYTHING, despite knowing its not reportable. their comment of “well i dont like it, so ill report and let the devs decide” is not acceptable. they report EVERY game, because they know that it MIGHT hurt the person they are reporting, while not affecting them at all.

    The correct response is to make an official statement that false reports are now bannable, and that you may only report for hackers or exploits. if someone keeps spamming reports, you send them “we have received numerous false reports from you. you have been suspended for 24 hours, and one strike on your account.

    THAT will put a stop to the nonsense. The people who report every game will stop, and the person whos job it is to sort them will appreciate it.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068
    edited June 2018

    I'll just leave this here since this is known to be unobtainable unless you hack the game client. I do wonder why if it's known so well by the devs why they 1 left it in game and 2 don't auto ban accounts the moment the game detects it's being used.

  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    powerbats said:

    I'll just leave this here since this is known to be unobtainable unless you hack the game client. I do wonder why if it's known so well by the devs why they 1 left it in game and 2 don't auto ban accounts the moment the game detects it's being used.

    They simply dont care anymore. Theyve moved their team on to the next project, left a skeleton crew here in dbd to finish the final dlc, where they will then transition into full free to play mode with a cash shop.

    Im sure some fanboy will come rage at me now claiming that they didnt pull the crew from dbd to work on deathgarden, because they believe anything theyre told.
  • weirdkid5
    weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,144

    @Lowbei said:
    powerbats said:

    I'll just leave this here since this is known to be unobtainable unless you hack the game client. I do wonder why if it's known so well by the devs why they 1 left it in game and 2 don't auto ban accounts the moment the game detects it's being used.

    They simply dont care anymore. Theyve moved their team on to the next project, left a skeleton crew here in dbd to finish the final dlc, where they will then transition into full free to play mode with a cash shop.

    Im sure some fanboy will come rage at me now claiming that they didnt pull the crew from dbd to work on deathgarden, because they believe anything theyre told.

    This is all baseless assumption with no backing and just makes you look silly. And I'm usually the one quick to say a company as abandoned a game, like I did when Deathgarden was annoucned.

    However, it is also quite ignorant to assume that BHVR doesnt have enough employees for a second game. Theyve been working on Deathgarden for some time now, the Game Director is Ash Panell, who was the Game Director for DbD until the Nurse came out. Clearly, the game kept being made.

    And full free to play nonsense? The game isnt going free to play. It's becoming like Siege, a game you buy with unlockable characters with the OPTION to buy them, and a huge cosmetic store. Siege is doing outstanding, and their roadmap for this year shows they have quite a lot in store for DbD for the remainder of the year, unless of course you haven't seen it.

    But of course, I dont think a skeleton crew would be able to create new characters, balance the game, stay communicative, AND create a slew of new cosmetics.

    You're literally just salty. If you know anything about me from Steam forums, you know i'm super quick to call out these devs on their bullshit.

    But in this case there is nothing yo call out aside from erroneously removing the report feature. The fact you somehow inferred they are dropping DbD due to this and Deathgarden is actually quite silly to me.

  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647
    edited June 2018

    @Lowbei said:
    Before a new one was finished?

    Every time I ask this question, the response I get is “durrrr because they are making a new one!”

    This neither answers the question, nor is acceptable. You had a working report form, now you dont.

    There are dozens of examples of people going thru all the hoops of recording all the time, then sticking around for sometimes an hour or more in the scoreboard screen uploading a video and reporting, only to check the video two months later to see its got no new views, and the offending player is still playing.

    Because of this, there has been a rise in hacking lately, and I will quote...

    Speedhacker : “lol nobody cares scrub, they dont even look at your reports anymore”

    And hes right. Youve clearly stopped caring about reports at all, and you are actively dodging the question posted in all QAs, in which youve got the question every single time, and refuse to aknowledge it despite the chat blowing up about it in caps as well.

    Most posts about this topic, you either delete, sink, or remove claiming that they were derailed, instead of modding the person derailing it.

    Please answer this valid question that your entire comminity thinks is important, because you care about your community, right?

    Clearly if someone gave you an answer and you denied it saying that doesn't answer the question, than no one will be able to asnwer your impossible question..

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  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    RemoveSWF said:

    99% of reports were used for griefing anyway - survivors reporting killers because they got killed.

    Less than 1% were dealing with actual hackers, which are the only people who should be banned, really.

    ... you could be describing literally any game right now.

    in glad that most games dont simply give up like this, its embarrassing for their company.