No one playing Nemesis anymore?
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I haven't seen a single Nemesis since the patch dropped.
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New players have bought the game and DLC.
Played a few games maybe ? Then experienced the freeze and crashes. What do you expect, this game is not new player & retention friendly.
Killer designed for new players coupled with a failed release. Couldnt be worse honestly.
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Yup, i am helping to my teammates leave and so many times i am dying for that. Fair trade.
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He's weak to play as in red ranks no thanks.
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I was out of town, I'll be back in a couple of hours. Don't tell me I already missed all the hype...
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Well,i was excited to play this chapter.
The characters and their perks looked really fun so i was ready to grind them out and prepare for the anniversary event :(
Played a few games of Nemesis,tried a game of Demo,played two games of survivor with a friend and closed the game because i lost the majority of my matches due to massive FPS drops that i got all the time.
Absolutely killed my excitement for this chapter
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On old gen he is extremly laggy. He is also kinda weak.
I still main him on PS5 tho.
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Exactly my problem too. First new killer in a long time Im not playing non stop first couple days. I've played a few bullshit matches where I tunneled and camped STARS
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Damn, I thought the video was buffering bad at first...
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I have his two achievements. Switched over to established killers to grind bp and level him up.
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Its not that people dont want to learn the killer its just the killer is weak compare to the other killer. Specially when you compare him to plague and ph nemesis is weak and those killer are not S tier killer they are average or slightly above average
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Lol. Poor thing.
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What issues? Every Nemesis I've seen is generally 4King. With 2 helpers on the map, not sure how much more help killers need, along with all of his perks buffed a lot!!
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You are complaining about killers and you are playing with strongest killer (Nurse) in game? Wow.
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Nemesis just need some buffs; more specifically I do not think using Tentacles attacks and applying containment effects should not give a speed boost since they are not technically "damage" when they are infected; it should be similar to Plague's infection! Obviously if you are containment and get hit with the Tentacle and damage, you get a speed boost; but if you are infected for the first time; no damage!
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What?
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Are not you Nurse main?
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But Nemesis is a very strong killer.
Nurse doesn't have any helpers.
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Nurse does not need help. She is already strongest killer. Why you never said "Nerf Nurse"?
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So... what killer do you think is stronger? Nurse or Nemesis?
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Because he's trash. We called it on the PTB, we called it on release day, his kit functions like trash. 3 hits, 2 braindead zombies, and a complete loss of function on open maps.
I'm honestly shocked Capcom even let this one fly.
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Yea the pickrate has gone down. Today, I've only played 4 matches but one of them was against a Nemesis w/ Ruin. Compared to yesterday where I was getting Neme in every game or so. Seems people are trying to farm BP with other killers to hopefully get some decent builds for Neme.
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She is Nurse main. She will say Nurse is weakest killer possibly. :d
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The thing dude is you are a bad survivor so ofc most of the time killer 4k against you
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Played him all day yesterday and all day today, he's pretty fun, most people have been moaning they've seen him too much
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Killers in this game don't have skill floors, they have skill ceilings. The killers with high skill ceilings are the best killers in the game. Not neutered trash killers that limit your ability to function with convoluted cooldowns and stuns.
Thats why survivors have a hard time dealing with Nurses, Spirits, and Blights....you're no longer facing a robot with these killers, you're facing another player with a brain with infinite capability.
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We all know nemesis is the strongest killer in the game he have 2 zombie with him who get stuck everywhere but if i listen to some post i saw the zombie are so strong that nemesis get carry by them so if he dont move the zombie should be able to win the game for him.
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People are probably waiting for the inevitable changes he's going to receive.
He's not very good at the moment.
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I am one of the this people. I will main him but for now, i am waiting. When he gets powers he deserved, we will be okey with Nemesis.
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She has the lowest killrate! But is still over 2K.
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She is not weak lol
Nurse is S+ tier. Even Spirit is not near to her.
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You didn't even have to put yourself through that kinda masochism you coulda figured that out in the first 5 games on PTB LOL
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Killers both have a skill floor and a skill ceiling. Nurse and Huntress would have a higher skill ceiling than a killer like Clown, as their powers are harder to use when first playing the character.
That's why I'm saying Nemesis has a high one, he has punishment for missing his attack, and he cant just expect his zombies to do all the work for him, he needs to somewhat loop the survivors into them to make full use.
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I know Nurse mains are always a bit weird but Sluzzy....you take it to another level....
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Hes not entirely weak but need some changes. And bug fixing mostly.
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Thats not a skill floor, his main power isn't even consistent, and misses people at point blank range....
I like to think of it like this. Cause you're right about Nurse and Huntress difficulty and skill ceiling, but Nemesis's main power isn't some difficult thing to calculate in your head. Its not some high skill cap skill....its just a swing....thats it. Its no different from lunging or pushing M1 minus a few milliseconds of wind up thats it.... His skill floor is slightly higher than trapper myers and ghostface, and his skill ceiling is way the hell below clown, PH, plague or anybody else on the roster.
Side note though, this game needs competition to breed excellence. That way garbage like this doesn't get released. I feel like BHVR has gotten complacent because they don't have any solid competitors in the market.
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Tbf it's still an early release at the end of the month on payday his numbers will spike along with Jill and Leon players I for one am definitely getting this pack on payday.
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I saw a lot of him most games until about now and I'm seeing a lot more of the usual (at rank ranks) of spirits and Freddy mostly.
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Why would I be playing nemesis right now, I already got his perks and played a few matches with him now im just playing my main and funneling bp to him to get him to p3
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Yeah I kinda dropped him after a dozen matches, he feels pretty underwhelming to play as imo. Stacking bloodpoints with Pyramid Head and Spirit atm :)
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Between his low map pressure, add-ons, and the short range on his tentacle it's not surprising that he isn't seeing much play. Despite a lot of feedback on him during the ptb they didn't adjust anything.
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Yeah I've been getting a lot of Blights lately, a lot more than usual, I wonder how he became so popular.
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I’ve seen one trapper today. Every other match has been nemesis.
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Blight is LOVE. Blight is LIFE.
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But the playerbase spiked on the RE chapter release with 95k people playing at the same time..
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Same with Twins. After first 12-24 hours people will play other killers again. Things get old very fast in this game.
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People are saying Nemesis has already been dropped because he's weak, but I disagree. I think the reason people are already not playing Nemesis is because he's boring.
His power is one of the most bland in the entire game. Nemesis has the least identity out of any Killer.
- The zombies. The one thing that makes him unique, the zombies, are an extremely slow, buggy, and unresponsive mess that the Nemesis has absolutely zero control over. Even when they actually manage to do something, which is extremely rare on all maps except RPD and, again, completely indeterminate by the Killer, they are just worse Trapper traps. Worse Victors, at best. It is such a nothing power that it may as well not exist, leaving his entire power as the whip.
- The whip. The whip itself is the most copy-pasted thing in this game. It's like Shred and Punishment of the Damned had a baby, but it turns out Shred and Punishment were cousins all along. It is a bastardized, crappy version of two pre-existing midrange special attacks. You have zero reason to use this power when Pyramid Head and Demogorgon exist. Not only are their special attacks direct upgrades to the whip, but their secondary abilities are too—Rites of Judgment and portals are leagues, LEAGUES ahead of zombies in terms of usefulness, interactivity, functionality, and fun factor.
- Mutation. Completely underwhelming. Mutation does nothing interesting. The abilities you get from mutation are lame, uninteresting buffs that should honestly be available from the get-go. Maybe if it did something unique, like changing the way the whip's hitbox works, or mutating the zombies instead of Nemesis and making them better, or giving him a new ability, or something, ANYTHING, beyond taking Nemesis's weak, boring midrange attack and turning it into a slightly less weak but still boring midrange attack, it would actually be cool and fun.
- Contamination. Literally exists just to screw Nemesis. The only purpose Contamination serves is to make Nemesis weaker by adding an extra health state to his power. You are getting infected by the T-Virus, one of the most lethal and most terrifying pathogens in all of science fiction, from the Nemesis, one of the most lethal and most terrifying monsters in all of science fiction, and all it does to you is sign the Nemesis's permission slip to actually do damage to you. Boring in concept and frustrating to deal with in practice.
All four of these combine to make Nemesis nothing more than a weaker and less enjoyable version of Killers that already exist. I don't know how they managed to make a Killer that's less unique than Trickster, but they did, and they did it to Nemesis of all Killers. You have no reason whatsoever to play Nemesis beyond the fact that he's Nemesis. On paper his power sounds cool, but in practice, the zombies basically don't exist and the whip might as well play a sound effect of Mcote screaming "GO PLAY PYRAMID HEAD" every time you use it.
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Played about 15 survivor games today, had a bubba, nurse and every other killer was a Nemesis. Purple & Red ranks.
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the third healthstate just makes him feel bad to play
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