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Why does winning sometimes feel so awful for this game?
Something I don't see a whole lot of people talking about on the forums is how awful winning sometimes feels.
Sometimes you'll "win", whatever the hell that exactly means we don't know because BHVR hasn't given us a solid answer. But for the purposes of this post let's say I mean a 4k.
I'll find myself getting a 4k, but it doesn't feel good or like a rewarding experience. One if the things I note is how out of my control the win feels. It feels like I win purely because the survivors make mistakes instead of me actually being good. For some clarification I've been playing this game about 1148 hours now.
I'm by no means a bad killer, but winning still feels so out of my control. Does anyone else feel that way, or is it just me being wierd?
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With the way you're phrasing your words, it sounds like you don't feel like you deserve your wins & that survivors messing up is the only reason why you would win.
In that case, you're right because without survivors messing up, no matter how good you are, you'll never win. It's all dependant upon how they play at the end of the day more so than yourself.
With that being said, I often find myself not feeling good after a 4K if the entire match was a stressful sweatfest. It might feel satisfying, but it sure as hell doesn't feel worth it.
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Sometimes it feels like I have the wrong mind set. But it happens a lot on killers I'm really good with, especially the more sweaty matches.
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Cause the skill disparity is so jacked with this game due to what I consider the huge mistake of not pushing people back further at rank reset and matchmaking still using ranks to match players. You have these sweaty matches that are 100% guaranteed victory for the survivors unless they start to make mistakes or you have to resort to the "scummiest" of tactics.
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I feel you man. My only advice is to just try not to take the game as serious & play around with meme builds more often. After I started doing this, I felt better about how the match went regardless if I won or not because I wasn't sweating my ass off.
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You and I are not far off at all.
Lemme tell you something.. I'm in a matchmaking hell and I can't get out..
I'm rank 9. Not blue, not purple, not red. But green. I know that doesn't sound impressive at all, which it isn't. But, I swear I'm in a dbd episode of the Twilight zone. When I reach rank 9, I get ######### over so hard it's not funny. No matter what I do, I lose. I will purposely ignore the runner and still get demolished. I have no idea why, I can't escape that fate. But, here's the kicker. When I lose, I derank to level 10. This is where I feel like I'm being mocked and ridiculed. When I reach 10, I pup stomp so hard and I have no idea why. Survivors won't do gens, they always unhook in front of me without BT. I PURPOSELY HOLD BACK AND I STILL GET 4Ks. Then, I rank up. I go to 9. The cycle repeats itself. I can't win. I seriously hope no one suffers this fate too. I can record this if you don't believe me.. I can't stand this actual hell cycle anymore.
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I would not see a 4K as a win. I would see a 3k as a win, since the game is designed to let the last survivor escape. Going for the 4K every game is a huge waste of time unless someone annoyed you enough to slug for it.
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Also, thinking the game is out of your hands as killer just means you are not playing the right builds or killer. The game is 100% yours to lose with a ton of builds.
You think tons of streamers go on 50-100+ killer win streaks because the game is balanced?
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there is no such thing as a dead by daylight player who doesn't make mistakes, so
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Sometimes being good hurts. Hope the game starts to feel better for you. Keep the chin up and try to enjoy the matches :)
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Funnily enough I was just mentioning last week that I got only my 3rd or 4th 4K (I've had the game for three months and in those three months have only played as killer maybe a few dozen times) but felt bad about it not because it was out of my control, but because the final survivor had totally earned an escape and I didn't let her have it.
The match unfolded in such a way that I slugged a survivor without realizing it - I thought she ran past me to flee around a wall but instead had actually fallen into the grass, and I was immediately distracted by another survivor nearby - and had the uncommon luck of finding and swatting the other three survivors in quick succession. I hooked them all then ran around looking for that survivor I thought had slipped me by, wondering why she wasn't going after her teammates. It was then that I glanced over at the icons and saw that she was on the ground. I'm not the kind of player that gets anything out of camping, tunneling or leaving someone slugged, so I immediately ran back to find her. I did, pretty quickly, and thus had to make a quick decision - do I let her go because I felt guilty for unintentionally slugging her and leaving her to crawl for a good minute or more? Or do I just go ahead and wrap up the match and get my first recorded 4K?
I felt honest guilt but thought "ah jeez, let me just hook her and be done with it, hopefully she (or he, I don't know the player's identity) will focus more on having lasted til the end instead of having been forced to crawl around. But then she wiggles free JUST as I'm about to leave her on the hook! So now my instincts kick in and I'm like "oh crap, I have to get her before she disappears". I catch up with her, down her, and again have to wonder what to do. I tell myself "you'll never get any 4Ks if you always let someone live, just do it and you can both move right on to the next match". I hook her. As she goes through the sacrifice animation I realize that she knew where the hatch was and had been desperately making a run of it before I caught her and hooked her - FIVE FEET FROM THE ######### HATCH. Then, in reviewing my footage, I was reminded of the fact that this was her second hook because she was the first person I hooked in the match - right away, when she was (surely unintentionally) AFK and just standing completely vulnerable for the first 30 seconds of the match.
Man, now I feel like ######### again. Go away. Shut up.
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It's not nessessary to slug for 4k. You can win by finding hatch first. I personally never slug for 4k.
Ideally when there is 2 survivors left, I trying to chase one that have spare hook stage. So after hook him I have a time to find last survivor. And it'd be fine if he escape if I didn't manage to find him in time.
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The reason I see a 4k as a win is because it's the only clear win that killers have. Any other win condition you can think of can be heavily debated as to whether or not it's actually a win.
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I only feel like a win is really satisfying if I felt like I did something cool or unexpected that got me into the position to win. I play mostly Legion when I play killer and Legion is literally "Hope They Beef It" the killer and so I get the feeling of being out of control. But usually, the times that I feel really jazzed it's because I did something cool or tricky. I remember once, for example, I jumped off a hill and through a window to catch a David who had been running me like crazy the whole match and it felt so stylish that none of the rest of the match really mattered.
I guess that is what I'm trying to say though; if you play for the 4K or for rank or whatever goal like that it just feels like a recipe for stress. But if you play just to try and pull off cool things or learn new techniques or even just be a meme with people, it's more fun. At least for me! Although I will say even in the matches where it feels out of my control it can oftentimes be fun to finally find that one mistake a survivor keeps making and exploiting it. Like it's a puzzle or something.
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Games are not just about the end result, you can win and feel that it was a bad game or lose and feel like it was amazing.
Did you have agency as you indicate is a big part of it. Get a 4k at 5 gens or 0 gens with both gates 99ed are very different games while both are wins. Both might not even feel as good as stomping isn't even necessarily great either.
Just try and remember that capitalizing on mistakes of your opponents is also a good play on your end. Sure it might be that they messed up, but you also punished them for it.
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If you have to sweat a lot, the "victory" is often sour and stressful, no surprise.
My worst game in my life was on Badham as PH vs 3man swf and one random guy. I managed to 4k at the end but god it was the worst [BAD WORD] ever. I even stopped playing killer for a week and played survivor after that haha.
They weren't even toxic or anything, just good players showing me how broken Badham loops can be.
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This is my problem after playing so much survivor recently. I know how broken the loops are and how easy it is t run the shack that it just pisses me off when i play killer now.
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It can be stressful as survivor if you're having to do everything for your team, essentially carrying the game, every time. And for killers, that's the feeling in every game because they are the only one on their side. To play to the best of your ability and to barely squeeze out a 'win' all the time is not fun, it's stressful.
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