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Who is the weakest killer?
I mean the least viable against decent/good SWF teams.
Hard time deciding between Legion,Trickster,Trapper,Clown
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Trickster
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Arguably, Legion.
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Trickster by far
4.4 ms, no lethality, no map pressure, main event is a joke
Trapper is heavily relying on rng, clown is good at shutting down loops and annoying to vs if played right, legion has solid perks synergy, and get decent info from his power, compared to the trickster, all 3 of them are nurse level almost
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Trickster.
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Everyone but Trickster is 115% and Legion and Clown have a "free hit". It still would be hard tho.
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Trickster is weak and bottom tier Killer for sure but no way he is the worst lol.
In my opinion: Trapper. He NEEDS bag addon to be at least playable, his power can be againts decent Survivors or groups, etc. or with bad luck totaly countered, making him M1 base killer.
His power has also many RNG factors (trap spawns, escape chances, etc .). Also he needs waste his time to pick up and place traps that can be easy turned off again.
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Trickster
110% movement
needs 8-16 hits to move healthstates. Also it decays.
main event makes you move slower, cannot be saved like oni's power making it 96% useless.
worthless add-ons like "decay slows down when you run out of knives" lol
8-40m lullaby
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depends on the player
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I'd say legion.
Trickster has something at least being able to shoot over short wall loops and out in the open or with Main Event if you get lucky.
Legion does nothing and arguably hinders himself if survivors spread out, which it what they should be doing anyway.
So in any game with decent survivors Legion will effectively have no power, except to maybe hinder himself with a 4 second stun just to get a hit slightly faster.
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Nemesis
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Trickster on his worst map
Trapper overall
Legion and clown don't even come close to the worst
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Trapper's traps are game changing and satisfying when they work, Trickster is not rewarding at all, also Trapper is 115%
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Trapper, trickster can be oppressive in some loops. Trapper is just terrible
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Trapper, Trickster and myers are the worst atm
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Trapper. Looks good with the new model but his power is still bad. Traps can be disarmed quiet easy, he has no map presence and unless you set up a good basement your can not build any pressure. And worsed of all: He can only carry 1 trap. This does not allow him to juggle traps with his basekit making him even more limited.
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I’d agree mostly but he has some decent add ons like the less laceration and increased fire rate ones
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Legion can be looped easily and one good survivor can make him lose a game. At least clown and trickster can get the down somewhat consistently
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Trickster. 100%. I can put up a fight with legion. Trapper a little less so. Clown and trickster would get demolished. Trickster would be laughed at. Ive played 4 man swfs with legion but i wish i could play a really good one. Just to know
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You arent playing him right. Using your ability you can figure out who the weak link is pretty quick. Prioritize that person for deletion. Thats the beauty of legion. If theyre all good then its a dog fight for the 3 gen, youre able to keep everyone injured and removing pallets around the 3 gen.
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What happens if they are all good? That’s what I’m basing them off since if they want to be viable against good teams they need to have anti loop
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Then youre getting rid of pallets around the 3 gen. Theyre all injured, at least most of them will be if they arent running off and healing. Idgaf how good a survivir is, if theyre injured and have no pallets theyre boned. TL only lasts so long. Because legion is fast hes able to apply pressure to the whole team.
Im NOT claiming hes god tier, of course other killers are better, i am saying hes underrated. Legion played properly though, when the 3 gen gods are present, can be way more of a nightmare than people give them credit for. Hes better than Mikey, ill tell you that.
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And if there is no 3 gen because the survivors played well? What about main building windows and long wall set ups that spawn commonly?
Fact is legion can not consistently end chases against even a decent survivor on most maps leading him to being underwhelming. Any killer that is played well can do well consistently against red ranks even trickster
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And any killer outside nurse and spirit can get cucked hard in the way youre talking about. Im not saying hes A tier, im saying hes not in the bottom 5.
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of course but what I’m saying is even against 4 decent loopers legion can’t do well compared to other often considered bottom 5 killers
Myers: Can sneak up and tier 3 for instant down
Clown: Has decent anti loop to end chases
Trapper: Can end chases instantly with 1 trap
Trickster: Can end chases slow but somewhat consistently
Pig: Better slowdown than legion and potential anti loop with add ons.
Legion while he can injure everyone unlike others like Myers, wraith, and ghostie can’t follow up on it
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With trapper theyre just running to the next loop and theyre buddy is disabling the trap
Pigs antiloop sucks against the kind of survivor your talking about because they just leave the loop as soon as you drop down. Also, once tge team realuzes you dont suck at looping yourself they start to heal which i would argue is more consistent a slowdown than her.
Trickster is the most easily looped killer in the game and has 0 map pressure, this is why hes so bad.
Clown, sure he can end chases decently but takes him longer to get 2 hits AND his map pressure is #########
Mikey might get 2 or 3 instadowns a game TOPS, less against really good survivors. Hes criminally OVERRATED.
Legion keeps most of the team exposed through the whole match, as the pallets disappear and the map gets smaller this becomes a serious problem
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trapper
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Being 1 shot isn’t an issue if even a decent window set up shuts him down completely
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Legion is the worst
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Thats true of every killer except nurse/spirit. Spirit to a lesser extent than nurse. Clown and freddy have options thats about it. Maybe doc if hes REALLY good
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Slinger, nurse, hag, trapper, huntress, PH, Nemesis, Oni, Demo, Doctor, Clown, Freddy and even Myers can deal with windows
Legion just has to play them normally
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Clown is not in that conversation. he has strong chase. Trapper and legion are the worst against good players, legion is probably the worst overall.
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Trickster
Legion
Trapper
Clown
Pig
They are the bottom of the pile.
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Trapper.
Against a SWF who's good at countering Trapper, he basically doesn't have a power because they'll constantly get disarmed. Granted I've only ran into a SWF like that once, but let me tell you it really sucks when it does.
Legion vs a SWF won't get chain hits but you can still get injuries stupidly easy.
Trickster vs a SWF still makes certain loops useless and can punish altruism very hard.
Myers vs a SWF probably won't be able to make sneaky plays but Tier 3 will still happen and insta down somebody.
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Youre very concerned with windows for some reason. That hasnt been much of a problem for me, if you decide to play legion and it is for you run bamboozle 🤷♂️
Different killers have different strengths and weaknesses, always been true always will be. Legion is above average in both categories (because he can run and because most of the team is injured through most of the match, that first hit will always be faster). Its up to you to how you deal with that
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