"genrushing" and "tunneling" aren't real
they were literally just made up by salty people. if you get tunneled it's probably because you're so easy to find and chase down. if you get genrushed it's because the survivors are simply playing the game
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Theres a difference between being an easy target or always getting caught at the wrong time, and actual tunneling, tunneling gets misinterpreted by salty survivors. actual tunneling is when the killer deliberatly ignores all other objectives such as protecting gens, downing other survivors, slugging because youre not the one they want, ect. ect. when they will go out of their way to 3 hook you and nothing else matters except getting you out of the game, that is true tunneling
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also to add to that, gen rushing while yes is a salty killer term, can also be miscontrued. its the killers job to patrol and stop gen progression WHILE hooking people, not the other way around, if youre getting gen rushed its because you arent doing your job, some people will sacrifice themselves or 4 toolboxes with best add ons and only do gens, no chests, no totems, just get in get out and leave with 10k bloodpoints if that, but its mostly your fault as a killer if 3 gens pop by the time you down someone
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Killer's job is not to patrol gens, killer job is to chase hook and sacrifice, gen patrolling is just the quickest way to find survivors, you go where they should be, you don't have to protect the gens but you are forced to protect the gens or you get no time to play for your objective.
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They are real, in the parlance of DBD. If they weren't then how would so many people understand what you mean when you write these terms?
Now, how you feel about them is completely subjective.
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they are just terms that describe how some people play or how people think they play.
though so many people use these in any way so the meaning they have is really washed down.
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"Your honor, my client didnt camp or tunnel, he merely wanted to see the person in question up close and personal"
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if mean they aren't toxic, i agree. if you mean they ACTUALLY don't exist, you probably have less than 100 hours at the game.
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100% agree. I'm a killer main right. I have a slight issue with Gen speed, but gen rushing is a nonsense term. If survivors want to get gens popped as quick as possible they are entitled to, and it ain't that hard so crack on.
On the flip side, if I want to go after the hurt survivor, or the strongest player, or the one with the key, etc etc etc..... you can be darn sure I will. Its not tunneling.
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Genrushing isnt real. But tunneling is.
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Both are just words for being angry after losing.
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Yeah they are. "Tunnelling" is getting tunnel vision on a survivor. "Genrushing" is when a team attempts to do the gens in under 3 minutes, leaving people to hang and refusing to heal.
Don't get mad just because people call out BS. Sure, they're overused terms but the core concepts are quite real.
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That is literally the definition of "tunneling". I'm not sure how you can tell yourself otherwise. Going after one person and ignoring everyone else is where the term "tunneling" comes from.
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Tunneling is a real thing. When a Killer grabs the first survivor, and ignores everyone else to camp the hook and go after that injured survivor exclusively while others are literally throwing themselves in his path until they're hooked again- then repeat until that one survivor is out of the game.
I was tunneled yesterday by a Pyramid Head. I ran him through 4 generators. He ignored everything and just went after me the entire game. He finally downed me, parked in my face on the hook, and my team mates were running around him and he wouldnt move. Whenever they tried to rescue me, he'd just down me again pretty fast and the other 3 escaped without a scratch. It was dumb lol.
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This is exactly tunneling. Now whether you care is up to you and how you view the game.
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"Tunnelling '" and "genrushing" aren't real, they can't hurt you.
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Of course they excist.
I got tunneled a few games ago (probably played against DangerScouse who thinks this is clearly not tunneling... when tunneling a person). The killer ignored everone and everything and only chased me no matter how stupid and how hard he would loose the game (whap happend eventually)
A week ago, we tried a serious "genrush". We ignored the guy who was hooked, just pumped the gens with BNPs, Streetwise, Built to last and Prove thyselve. Ended in a few minutes.
What you actually mean is that it might get wrong interpretated. Sometimes it can feel like beeing tunneled or it looks like a genrush, while it was not the case at all.
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Or. They're actual game terms that do exist but most players over use them and actually use them when it's not actually happening. I have been tunneled and I have been gen rushed, does it bother me? Nope it's the actions that happen with it for example toxicity. Like tunnel me, just dont be a dick about it...
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I can agree slightly with the gen rushing but tunneling. Tunneling isn't...- Ok.
Tunneling is most definitely a real thing. I haven't been tunneled in a couple weeks and it's a rarity when it does happen (how many of you have ever been hard tunneled by a Spirit? Not a fun time) but I'll give you an example of hard tunneling.
The killer was Pyramid Head, I was playing with my friend and the first time I got caught out, I'll admit, it was my own clownery because I face planted right into the man as he turned a corner. He was in a chase, dropped it and chased me. I got hooked and immediately after I got unhooked, he *deliberately* searched for me (even going so far as ignoring survivors on a gen) and when he found me, I got hooked again. Got unhooked and he was right back on me. I managed to stay alive long enough for the randos and my friend to do all the gens and get out. My friend tried to take hits, tried to make him take chase with him instead, the randos tried to take hits and have the chase on them. Didn't matter, he just wanted me. He ended up with a 1k because he decided to tunnel me all game. I didn't even get to do a gen, didn't get to achieve any altruism points, didn't get to cleanse any bones, nada.
Tunneling isn't real... Sure Jan.
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Then we need to redefine tunneling as a negative then. Because nobody should be criticised, or start crying for anything I mentioned.
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Then let's stop using the word with negative connotations. Because choosing a survivor to go after, for whatever reason, and then people whinging about it is ridiculous.
Basically tunneling = chasing.
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Tunneling does exist but it isn't what most people think it is. Tunneling is a killer that refuses to even defend generators just to get a specific survivor out of the match, no matter how good or bad they are. That's usually a bad tactic. When people accuse killers of tunneling, that's usually just targeting weaker links, which is a smart thing to do as good and bad survivors can both equally do gens.
Genrushing does not exist. That's survivor doing their objectives efficiently.
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Just look at some on the replies on this post. People saying tunneling is literally any.... I repeat any...... instance where a killer.... heaven forbid.... chooses to go after a survivor, and chase then until they are down
And who cares what the killers reason is right?? Because not letting a survivor escape is "tunneling". And tunneling is bad. Give me a break.
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This
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This also
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If a killer is chasing an injured survivor, and chooses *not* to break off the chase to go after healthy survivors on a gen..... this is probably a bad tactic, but maybe that player thinks it's their only option for a down, and (right or wrong) think they're going to lose anyway. And just want a kill.
In that case who are we to tell them how to play. Most people who complain about tunneling seem to think the killer is some real life Ted Bundy, who's only aim is to spoil the survivors game and laugh maniacally. In truth.... maybe sometimes, the killer just wants a kill.
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theres a lot of factors to consider though, is the gen almost done? are you still at 5 or 4 gens? is this injured person out in the open and an easy target? will this person going to second stage create a lot more pressure? just because a killer is going after the injured person first doesnt mean they are tunneling, they are just taking what they think is the best course of action, are you unhooking in my face and dont have borrowed time? this isnt Fair by Daylight, each side has their objective and its up to them how they want to achieve it
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I agree. That's part of my point. But it's also not up to anyone else to decide "what the killer thinks is the best course of action". That's up to the killer, and only the killer.
But I think we agree.
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That's not tunneling then. That's the killer going after a weak target to guarantee a kill. Sometimes forcing altruism is better than trying to push survivors off gens. True tunneling is actually hard to occur.
And I agree with you btw. I personally don't care about tunneling or survivors rushing their objectives. As long as nobody DCes (as it turns the match into a waste of time) or use exploits/hacks, I personally don't mind anything in game.
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Nah, tunneling = chasing the same guy forever, until you finally down him not because of skill, but because of no pallets, Bloodlust or constant spamming. That is tunneling. Along with going straight for the unhooked guy, no matter who else is in front of you. And by doing that, you are forcing someone to not play a game that isn't even free. It would still be an issue, but at least you didn't have to pay for NOT playing a videogame. And, I know it comes as a surprise, but videogames are made to be played.
That's the difference, a difference that killer mains refuse to acknowledge, or admit. If you get tunneled and camped, there is nothing else you can do. You get chased, score some points, die, depip. Because you got to do nothing more than a chase. If you are the killer, however, t-bagging, survivors working on gens, bodyblocking, flashlights, SWF. Nothing is stopping you from playing. You can move, you can score points, you can even pip. As a survivor, you are denied that. This isn't to say that SWF isn't a problem, because it sure as hell is. And it makes me laugh hard when people come up with something so ridiculous as "you made yourself be found". Yeah. Because this game favors stealth, does it?
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kinda hard to not tunnel because the survivor always tries getting in your face with BT or DS
they want you to hit them
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I watched a stream of an SWF going against me and somehow I always stumbled on the same person, the first response was "OMG he's tunneling me!!"
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Gen rushing is just survivors doing their objective.
Tunneling is just killers doing their objective.
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They are both real. Genrushing is harder to pin-point, but it's basically survivors making sure that they're never with two or more on a gen, always split up because it's faster and more efficient.
Tunnelling is also real, but it's more than just being chased off hook. If someone else throws themselves at the killer and the killer sticks to the unhooked target, that's somewhat tunnelling. What's more obviously tunnelling is if a killer is mid-chase and drops the chase to double back to a fresh unhook. At that point you are playing exclusively to take that one unfortunate survivor out of the game.
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I stated in an earlier post the the way one feels about them is subjective.
So, while not a negative to you, Others may be of a different opinion.
Both opinions are valid and understandable.
I personally play how I like to verse. So if I don't like something, I don't do it to my competitors.
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