Is DBD modding on its deathbed?
Recently there has been a lot of talk surrounding the use of mods, more particularly the use of sweaty players installing mods that give them an unfair edge. (We've all seen the pink beartrap post by now.) DBD modding has a lot to offer, and i personally have added my own chase music to some of the killers since i enjoy them more than what the base game offers. But with all the talk and BHVR's alleged plans to patch out modding permanently from the live build, this may be the last patch modding is alive and well in the live patch of the game. It saddens me to see that the potentially groundbreaking prospects of the modding scene have been forever ruined by the groups of cheating sweats who ruined it for all of us. What are ya'lls thoughts on this? It breaks my heart to know its likely gonna happen, but at the same time deep down i know its necessary. This behavior was mostly unavoidable.
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More like the midwife forgot to deliver the baby.
A game like this absolutely should not have modding and BHVR is actually correct in patching out all means of modding the game.
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Yeah I agree. I've definitely seen some really fun and entertaining mods for DBD out there (my personal favorite was turning the generators into cocktail machines 😄), but they shouldn't exist in an online competitive game.
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On the subject of modifying chase music
Good riddance.
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This. It's not like this game has any offline capabilities where modding would be acceptable.
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Yes, quit acting like that was actually a scene
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Ideally they should make it easier for people to mod icons and such. But anything else beyond that:
- Skins
- Game resolution (stretched res)
- Chase music
- colors
- etc.
All should not be able to be done and be bannable if changed. Devs have stated that even chase music is setup in such a way to be part of the game balance, modifying the chase music in any way (even to change it) can give an unfair advantage over players who don't. And don't get me started on skins, purple traps, and stretched res.
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I know how it feels.
I myself am mourning the death of my ultimate and only child, The Cursed Pianist (Trickster mod)
Nothing, but a chase music and switching random words from Power and Addons descriptions...
Modding was DBD's greatest event, and now it's just gone. Not gonna lie, i would like to see BHVR add Steam Workshop or in-game community shop for stuff like this.
But of course the white knight are gonna crowd us out.
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Thank god these cheaters won’t be able to manipulate stuff in ways that isn’t noticeable. Sad tho some of the cosmetics were nice.
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It sucks if they do. I was working on a full text mod for the Resident Evil and Silent Hill chapters to make them more immersive and true to the games. People were doing great mods to build immersion with cosmetic modifications and music mods from killers' respective IPs (like getting chased to this music).
If anyone was modifying the game to make things easier, that's obviously not good. But it was a way for us to be creative and fix things that are never going to see change in any official capacity. I think it's a copout to say people were only doing it to cheat.
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Only thing I was fine with was the skin meme mods, everything was too bad and god awful.
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Gameplay affecting mods do not belong in a PVP game, period. There's already an example earlier in this thread of someone removing the Killer's chase music to give them a huge auditory advantage. Your 'simple chase music 'switch' suddenly becomes a lot more nefarious and unfair.
If modding was the only reason people enjoyed the game, then maybe they should find a different one, as Dead by Daylight clearly isn't for them.
It's not white knighting if the people supposedly doing so are actually in the right, by the way.
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I don't feel any empathy towards modding players, especially those who do that to get an unfair advantage.
Maybe a few people use it to not get an advantage over others, but most of them probably will. And that's just dumb and needs to go.
And for the people that claim it's unfair that they get rid of modding because some people are taking advantage over others, that's life. Life is unfair. And the good people always suffer because of the bad people.
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Modifying chase music can actually give an advantage though. The devs have stated that chase music is setup to also be part of the balance of the game.
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I bet this is so common that it isn't funny. How many posts have there been about lowering in game sound from ignorant people? now times that by the people that knew about modding.
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Fair enough, but I haven't seen anything designed to break the game where most of the modding happens. It's always people just trying to be creative and have fun, which is why it's a bummer.
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Like I said, the good people will always suffer from the people with bad intentions. That's life nowadays.
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I loved the mods because I could take off David's shorts, give Dwight David's jacket, and return Jane's set headpiece to being unlinked by putting it over another one (I already owned both the one I modded over + the set). My personal favourite though was easily being able to mod the pride charm into my specific pride flag.
It's a shame it's gone but this is dbd and the competitive sweats can and will ruin it for everyone always.
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I thought exactly the same when reading "customize Chase music". And we all know, when you can replace the Chase Music with your own Music, people will replace it with "nothing" to get rid of Chase Music.
And it should be no surprise that the Community, who makes their game look like ######### by adding Filters or stretched resolution will also use Mods which give an unfair Advantage. I guess there are Killers out there, who just replace every Survivor Model with pink figures which can be spot easily.
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I saw a lot of cool mods but unfortunately they shouldnt be a thing. They need to make it so you cant mod or change size for things like stretch res because people will abuse these kinds of features.
Sad for the one sided funny mods but its better that mods are not in the game.
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Sure, but I think it's being blown out of proportion at the same time. This thread is making it sound like everyone was silencing music and highlighting traps (which Small Game already did prior to a couple months ago), when in reality most people don't go through the effort it takes to mod the game, and those who do largely use mods from gamebanana or the discord server. There's a lot of assuming the worst of modders for some odd reason.
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Hopefully we get an official workshop where you can apply mods and use them after bhvr approves them
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Hope tomorrow is the end of modding. I don't mind the cosmetics btw.
Modders now taking gameplay advantage.
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Destroy this #########.
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I don't think the "competitive sweats" ruined it.
It's the people who used modding as cheat tools that ruined it.
Blame them, not us.
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Cool,now ban third party communication software.
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Stretched res is not modding, it's completely external to the game. You can jchange resolution of your own screen or GPU output, the game will adjust to it. But yeah, they should make it so that the game can't take any resolution other than 16x9, so that stretch resers will just get black strips by the edges of the screen.
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You really think BHVR would go through THAT much work when they can't even introduce the most basic QoL changes?
I respect your optimism
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If you ask me stuff that can't give an advantage whatsoever like custom perk icons/selection screen portraits should be whitelisted. Put them in their own folder or something that is explicitly allowed to modify, and make sure nothing non-cosmetic can be changed by messing around with the files in there.
But I totally understand why they don't want anything else, and I don't really blame them if they decide to just amputate the entire hand instead of figuring out exactly which fingers to get rid of, to put it that way. Modifying anything else than cosmetic icons and still images for menus can be used for everything from some meme shirt for Dwight to glow in the dark neon pink traps and survivor outfits and it's a massive pain to try to selectively block/ban the bad stuff while allowing the harmless stuff.
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The people that used it to cheat, so the people that were using it to sweat. Or the competitve people, since they already stretch res to high hell + filter their game beyong recognition, so it wouldn't shock me.
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That's not being competitive.
There's a difference between being competitive (using the most effective tactics possible to win) and cheating.
I for one considered Streched Res to be cheating, which is why I'm not impressed of Oracle when I watch their videos. They are good survivors, just wish they actually used intended resolutions when playing.
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If the devs don't ban for it, it can be assumed that it is allowed.
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Deathbed?.....it shoudve never been born
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This just made my day, "pink survivors". Thank you. 😂
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You are aware that an implication is not an equivalence, right?
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They can't enforce that. I don't know about the other platforms, but on Xbox the party chat is entirely separate from any game being played. Heck we all can be on different games, and DBD couldn't know.
And I believe Microsoft mandated any game they accept cannot interfere with the party chats in any way. I imagine Sony has something similar.
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I get the sense that a lot of people don't even know what modding the game actually did, since stretched res pops up a lot. All they have to do is go to gamebanana to see what the majority of people were using.
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