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Everyone is Red Ranked Killer?
While all the Survivors are Purple and Green?
I can't de-pip enough to get out of the sweat pit. Which is weird because, I'm having constantly horrible games where we barely complete any gens and we all die.
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The rank situation is majorly ######### right now. My killer keeps getting matched with rank 20S whilst being green currently. My survivor is purple and only getting red killers which im actually happy about on the survivor side. The killer side needs fixed
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A lot of killers are red rank because it's very easy to reach compared to playing as a survivor. You can get rank one primarily from camping and tunneling.
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Killer emblems practically force you into higher ranks as long as you do more than stand still( I reached 9 without using hooks). Other than that a lot of players switch to survivor once they leave the stress free matching.
Haven't seen a killer lower than purple in a long time, though I enjoy facing the high ranks more anyway. The game feels better when you know gimmicks are not an option.
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It’s pathetically easy to reach red ranks as killer so it wouldn’t be surprising.
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Disagree, I got red rank in (solo) survivor before I got red ranks in Killer and I play Killer much more as well.
Also if you camp at red ranks you will lose a lot of games so even then I think it's hard to pip consistently
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Disagree with your post as well.
Hitting rank one in survivor is now much more difficult unless you want to sit in an SWF group for consistent teammates. Playing killer is incredibly easy to hit red ranks. Camping and tunneling can quickly boost your level as survivors will drop everything they're doing to save one another.
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Not true at all. We just had a post where OP got to and maintains rank 1 by camping.
And in solo q, you see a lot of campers. I get it, it's easy mode as killer, like SWFing, for survivor, but it does work.
I'm doing an experiment right now to see, after being inspired by the other post, and I am having no trouble staying in red ranks just camping.
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Two points:
- Why did you bring up rank 1? This conversation is about hitting red ranks as Killers, so for a fair comparison we probably should discuss red rank survivors, not rank 1.
- I still think it is very easy to hit red ranks as survivor, due to the fact it's very difficult to actually depip even if you lose a game as a survivor (up to red ranks). Doesn't even matter if you are not in a SWF, as long as you pop a gen or 2, get a heal and an unhook, win one chase, you will always safety pip and usually pip up. With Killer however, if you go against a good SWF, it's pretty easy to lose pips, so consistenly ranking up is basically determined by how lucky you are with the teams you face. Doesn't matter how well you play, if you go against a good SWF you are in danger of a depip (unless you are actually good at a Killer).
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Staying in red ranks is easier than reaching red ranks, as your only requirement is to get a safety pip. To get to red ranks you need to consistently pip up, and this is a struggle in purple ranks, it was for me at least when I was still learning Killer, and started facing good teams. Survivor however, see my previous post, you are guaranteed safety pips by just participating in the game, even if you lose, so reaching red ranks is just a matter of playing enough games.
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I can understand that perspective. But I have been in red ranks for 4 years. And it's easier to pip in purple ranks than red.
The simple truth is, you can pip just from camping and tunneling. EZ.
And it's way easier to double pip as killer than as survivor.
And SWFing, please.
IMO, it will always be solo q, killer, swf in order of difficulty.
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True, it's easier to pip in purple than pip in red. But not so sure if it's easier to pip in purple than +0 pip in red! Think it requires less medal points but I didn't check those requirements in a while.
I agree with you that, in general, Solo Q is harder than Killer, if you want to win consistently! There is just too much determined by how good (or bad) your teammates are.
However, I definitely still think that reaching red ranks is just much easier as a Survivor than a Killer, due to the fact that you can pip up even when losing. And that is acceptable, as it is very easy to lose when playing Survivor, due to your team. Just felt I had to challenge some of the comments above making out reaching red is easier for Killers (assuming you have equal skill in Killer and Survivor)
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Because hitting red ranks as a survivor are more difficult, especially if trying to level up beyond the initial rank 4. While as a killer, it's not as difficult to gain pips. This is why OP and many others are seeing a higher amount of purple/green survivors compared to killers and also the reasoning as to why you rarely will see any survivor actually on rank 1 right now.
"Doesn't even matter if you are not in a SWF, as long as you pop a gen or 2, get a heal and an unhook, win one chase, you will always safety pip and usually pip up."
This isn't exactly true, as in red ranks that would net you the safety but not the pip. If you are hooked at all, that would probably depip you.
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Fair enough.
I appreciate the discussion!
Always good to hear and consider other perspectives.
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Bro, I literally just said that it will get you a safety pip, and then you said "this isn't true, that would net you the safety"
My main point is that it is easier to safety pip as a survivor. This is fine, because if you depipped every time you lost a game as survivor, solo Q would be impossible as you'd never rank up. As a result, ranking up is basically a given. Sure, you may have the occasional game were you get tunnelled out immediately, and depip, but this does not happen all the time (you may see tunnellers often, but you are unlikely to be the one tunnelled every time you see a tunneller).
If you have some common sense (know when to jump on a gen, can remain hidden from the killer in the early game), and some basic looping skills, pipping consistently as a survivor is very very easy. At least as easy as consistently pipping by camping, if you ask me. Because if you just purely camp you will occasionally encounter teams who will just focus gens and you will get a 1K.
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"if you are hooked at all that would probably depip you"
Unless the medals have been changed recently and I'm missing something, I really don't think that is the case. For anything other than red ranks, I'm pretty sure you can safety or pip, even without escaping and getting a low quality unbroken emblem
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Ranks should reset 10 levels like they used to I think it would help alot since we only have the pipping system at the moment.
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It depends on the killer as its either way too easy or nearly impossible to reach red ranks depending on who you play the most:
Legion's emblems are Hyper-Inflated and I have legitimately pipped while in purple ranks with a 0k as Legion and I can't really remember the last time I have ever depiped as Legion.
Meanwhile the Plague's emblems are Hyper-Deflated to where its nearly impossible to pip and is even possible to get a 4k and DEPIP as the Plague.
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I'm constantly getting matches like this, I wonder who the red ranked survivors are playing against.
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Pipping as killer you're relying on just yourself. Pipping as survivor you're relying on yourself, teammates and the killer. You can legit run a killer for 5 gens, escape and still depip for reasons. Or do all gens without being hit because it's a facecamping Bubba and also depip. It's a stupid system, why people take it so seriously goes beyond me.
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I'm responding to your comment in full, not partially. Your comment isn't true because it wouldn't give you a pip as you said.
"Doesn't even matter if you are not in a SWF, as long as you pop a gen or 2, get a heal and an unhook, win one chase, you will always safety pip and usually pip up."
That will not pip you in red ranks. That will only safety if you are never hooked.
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good to read sincere people, thank you!
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if you play honestly helping your teammates and not being selfish, what you say is not true.
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you understand that you are above all killer, what you say is biased and not correct. getting to the purple ranks is easy with both! but the reds are much more difficult to survive, especially if you play for and with the team.
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Its worth mentioning that the emblems for survivor are currently bugged, I think specifically the benevolent emblem. I’m constantly oscillating between 5-4 when I would normally be at rank 1 by now. I think I have only seen one rank 1 survivor since Nemesis was released.
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I keep saying the biggest problem with sweat is rank reset. When I started you were pushed back 10 ranks and all the sweat lords were back facing each other within a day or two and the rest of us could have more balanced matches. Now it's easier to get up to red ranks because you aren't thrown back as far but it's impossible to back pedal, unless you afk every match until you're down a color or two.
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haha, me too. the survivor games super interesting now though my killer games have been some of toughest games to win in long while, often getting 6-7 hooks and losing or barely winning at 0/1 gen with near perfect play. I wonder if MMR is on or something. If it is. its certainly very... accurate.
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Yet I can get three 4ks with Doctor and still not get a progression mark to get out of Rank 20 lol... a certainly unfair system.
But not that I'm complaining about being stuck at Rank 20 Killer (regardless of the fact that I'd be somewhere near 14, just based on the casual time I have)… Don't get me wrong, I still get pitched against Rank 1 or 2 Survivors -- because that's just how broken matchmaking is -- but God it's fun pulling 4ks while your profile is seemingly frozen at that '20'...
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Me, a potato killer :'(
No, but seriously, I'm a potato killer, I play mainly to complete the archives and sometimes I get red ranks survivors in the team. Usually not more than 2 at a time, but even one feels like a whole squad to me lol
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Getting rank 1 survivor is stupidly easy what are you smoking? I got it in 2 weeks of playing the game
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I disagree.
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Is normal unfortunately. You'll need to get good enough that you're at a level where fighting red rank killers is not an issue for you.
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If it's so stupidly easy, where are all the survivors at rank 1 then? I seldom see any of them outside of SWF which is stupidly easy, I agree.
Pretty certain you're not even playing the game solo with that train of thought.
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not from my personal experience. I'm still purple as survivor (was rank 1 once, but haven't played survivor for a while last winter and struggle to go back to red since). I personally find survivor much harder right now than killer - i'm rank 1-2 as killer for at least 1 year or so (except for the week after rank reset). I'm probably way worse as survivor than killer, but my personal feeling is that killer has become much easier in the last months. The DS nerf was imho unhealthy for the game balance.
When i play killer and i want to win, and survivors start to play sweaty (split up, doing 3 gens before i got a hook or stuff like that) i just start to play scummy - you can easily tunnel people out since on one uses DS anymore, and (proxy-) camping also works very often, to make sure they get into second stage if the rescue doesn't happen fast enough. It's unfun for everyone and dumb of course, but it works more often than not, that's why even red rank killers are doing it so often. Note that there is a difference between mindlessly chasing one survivor and throwing the game/ facecamping someone without reason, not patrolling gens - and the stuff that i mentioned, "tactical tunneling/camping".
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I see a lot of rank 1 survivors, dunno where you playing. And no aha, I never played swf in my life, only solo everytime
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I didn't say it would give you a pip, I said it will always safety pip, which I assume means +0, so you will never depip, I said you will usually pip, not always. Big difference.
Once again you are mentioning about pipping IN RED RANKS. That was not your original argument, the argument was around how easy it is to reach red ranks, i.e. pipping in purple ranks. It's easy to get to, and stay in, red ranks as a survivor, for this reason.
Why can nobody read in this thread, oh my lord. I never mentioned anything about pipping in red ranks, the whole discussion was around REACHING red ranks, i.e. pipping in purple ranks, and then simply maintaining rank (or raising it slowly) by safety pipping OR pipping more than you depip.
I'm not biased towards Killer at all, I got red ranks in Survivor before I got red ranks in Killer, despite playing more hours of Killer. Right now, I play them both about evenly.
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I get red rank survivors in my team every now and then, but it's more common that I get a red rank killer. Purple rank killers are really common too though.
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Survivor altruism is bugged. you currently get nothing for healing survivors and can only get altruism by getting safe saves.
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I still think it is easier to pip up to red as Survivor as it is pretty easy to get +0 or +1 pips so it's just a matter of playing enough games and contributing some minimal amount to the team.
As Killer I find it more frustrating, as you have games where you have to really fight even for a safety pip at times. Then sometimes even if you feel like you tried hard, you can still get a 0K and depip against a very good team. For this reason I find Killer to be a lot more triggering, as you have to consistently try hard to even maintain a rank, any mistakes will likely result in a depip and loss of progress, whereas the Survivor experience is less stressful as you can maintain rank even if you never escape.
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