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Sad matchmaking and state of the game

latinfla4
latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

Watching a friend play as a rank 11 vs a swf using wraithon lerys. He played fair no camping and no tunneling they proceed to stomp him and of course verbal abuse happens afterwards.

Look at the ranks and of course 4 man red rank...everything they could do from pallet validation to body blocking...end game he camps finally but nope body block all the way to the exit gate.

Finally gets the down right before the exit gate (hit very early wraith uncloak lunge way b4 they reach the pallet). Elodie is down he goes to get his well deserved kill and you guessed it elodie is already running through the exit gate as he get pallet stunned.

Some colorful words later he ejects the game disc uninstalled dbd and says that's it I am trading this in to gamestop tomorrow and getting something that is less buggy.

My friend has been playing since the game launched and this was the last straw...he forgave bhvr through the anniversary debacle and 2 busted patches. He has spent money on killer cosmetics but bad matchmaking and bugs finally made him realize not to bother playing anymore.

Comments

  • InList
    InList Member Posts: 85

    I'm surprised toxic MM hasn't killed the game yet. I'm regularly sent to survivor sided maps when the killer is 5+ ranks lower than me. At least he had an indoor map, which is always good for hit and run Wraith.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 6,633

    ”Toxic” matchmaking? That’s a new one.

    You seem to imply the game intentionally sends you to survivor-sided maps when you’re outmatched. Unless you mean maps offerings, that’s nonsense.

  • IsJustMe
    IsJustMe Member Posts: 436

    when i started it was the same.

    5 or 10 games i was crying too.... but and here is a tip : "... i learned to play against them ..." and in fakt not each red is a god ;)

    for two weeks or so i got a big kick in my ass from a grey team (i was 5)

    so long you not start to ignore the color, you will never be better in this game.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Well went with him and his bros to trade it in and he got a card for 3 months of gamepass ultimate.

    He seems pretty happy...now to play some good coop GPU games.😎

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    Yeah but the way they played and he is not a bad wraith player either. Pallet validation just destroys lunges and m1 killers.

    I just saw how demoralizing it was for him hitting survivors 2 to 3 steps before reaching the pallet, him hitting and still they get away unscathed.

    He pays 100 dollars a month for internet as well

  • Razorbeam
    Razorbeam Member Posts: 594

    Sounds like he has a good opportunity to see how the game operates in end game and decide if it was for him, if survivors working together as a team to escape and evade you caused him to have an emotional response this probably isn't the game for him.

  • Shirtless_Myers
    Shirtless_Myers Member Posts: 509

    It sounds like just you're making things up to fit your narrative since you have multiple threads that constantly complain and make bogus claims like the inverse Sluzzy. If your friend is losing out on numerous hits through pallet dedication, it's their fault for playing on McDonald's wifi.

    Creating various threads and stories about how your hits aren't going through and losing your games shows that you rely on hits that should never have hit in the first place.

    "Elodie is down he goes to get his well deserved kill and you guessed it elodie is already running through the exit gate as he get pallet stunned."

    Then the hit was not well-deserved at all. That's dedicated servers doing their job.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited July 2021

    Yup pallet validation is a hoax and so is me having friends you got me🙄. I don't even play dbd😏 They pay 100 dollars a month for xstream mediacom service so no your mcd wifi to fit YOUR narrative to attack me isnt true.

    Sorry you feel so entitled to attack a fellow dbd user....I guess threads about hit validation from other players are hoaxes as well right?

    And please show me these other threads I posted one where it happened to me when the patch first happened and this thread happened last night barely so yeah you got me...I also say 4 wallets > 1 so that is also a hoax🤑

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  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    There is a thread with a huntress player with a video showing how hit validation is working so well right now....but I am sure it is also a hoax🤔

  • InList
    InList Member Posts: 85

    You used to be able to switch killer based on the survivors in your lobby. If you dodge since that's your only option the game will throw almost any killer at them since queue time is more important than anything else. Since killer choice was disabled a year ago BHVR could have easily ranked the maps from most killer sided to most survivor sided and handicapped the side that's is 10 ranks too high.

  • GentlemanFridge
    GentlemanFridge Member Posts: 6,633

    I've been playing since Spirit's release, I am aware of that.

    That still wouldn't fix the main issue, and imo, is WAY too subjective to even do in the first place. Not to mention that rank 10's or above typically don't even understand why the map is x-sided in the first place.

    The issue lies in the matchmaking, and changing the maps won't fix that. Bad survivors will die to good killers, regardless of the map.

  • Shirtless_Myers
    Shirtless_Myers Member Posts: 509

    Pallet Validation is not a hoax; you're being overdramatic about a feature that is healthy for the game. You have made various threads complaining about Pallet Validation where I have only experienced it once on a ping of 30 through countless hours in the game.

    "Elodie is down he goes to get his well deserved kill and you guessed it elodie is already running through the exit gate as he get pallet stunned."

    It shouldn't matter the type of internet he has or what he is paying for it. It became obvious that he's playing in a region other than his own or on a terrible wifi connection with that statement alone. There shouldn't be an advantage for having a bad connection to the server, and that's what the system is in place to correct.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited July 2021

    Nope you called me a liar so pallet validation has to be a hoax otherwise everything you said was a lie🤔

    I guess everyone is being overdramatic over this hoax I mean I am the only one talking about it 🙄

    Yeah we play in Illinois in the usa not some other country so swing and a miss champ

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,308

    He has played since the launch and he is rank 11? He must have 15000 hours in the game, he should be getting to rank 1 in 2 days after rank reset. Something is missing in this story.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119

    He stopped playing from the buggy resident evil patches like most people did...I am a rank 16 survivor since i wasn't playing survivor since that dlc so not playing does reset ranks funnily enough.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
  • Shirtless_Myers
    Shirtless_Myers Member Posts: 509

    I never called you a liar; your story, however, sounds heavily exaggerated.

    Everyone isn't being overdramatic about Pallet Validation. You sound like one of the few that aren't close to a server while playing on a lackluster connection.

    Having gone against killers from other countries in the past due to a VPN isn't fun nor is it fair to take a hit after throwing the pallet and see them stunned seconds later.

  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited July 2021

    Sure you did playing on mcds wifi (sorry being Latin doesn't mean he is poor) playing in another country (once again I was born in the usa but I do visit mexico)

    Latinos hanging out playing...they cant have 100 dollar stream mediacom service🙄🤑

    So besides attacking me did you see the huntress video and want to blame it on bad ping? Or does that not fit your narrative?

  • Axx
    Axx Member Posts: 392
  • latinfla4
    latinfla4 Member Posts: 2,119
    edited July 2021

    Yup I have played quite a bit and look I am a level 10 green rank🤔 highest rank I ever reached was level 7 purple about 6 months ago but who knows I am a liar right?

  • Shirtless_Myers
    Shirtless_Myers Member Posts: 509

    I have no interest in talking to you because you want to turn this into an issue with your race for whatever reason when nothing about that was brought up.

    You continue to bring up the cost of the internet when that doesn't even matter, nor does it matter what company it's from. Your ping is what is dictating what client the server chooses to prefer. If you or your friend are getting seconds of delay before the pallet stun, you can't say you deserve to get the hit.

    I'm not attacking you, I'm pointing out that your story doesn't add up, and your threads show you're acting overdramatic about Pallet Validation, which is a good mechanic that sorts out some very janky hits.

  • meatisadelicacy
    meatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,920

    I get purple rank swfs as a rank 20 killer. It happens more than I'd like, but the other option is even longer queue times. There is nothing devs can do to magically create more players at specific skill levels to give people evenly matched games 100% of the time. And honestly, rank doesn't mean much more than a person has played a lot this month. There are absolute garbage players on both sides in red and purple ranks. It means nothing.

    Of course people shouldn't be toxic of "verbally abusive" in post-game chat, but it's up to your friend or anyone else playing to read chat or not. Leave the lobby. Say GGs if you want. No one is forcing you or your friend to read post-game chat. I play on PS4 and I have messages turned off from strangers because I don't want to read whatever BS people decide to throw at me afterwards. It's my responsibility to allow that or not.

    I'm glad he stopped playing. This isn't me being a jerk about this. Why do people play games they don't like? If he is not having fun, he should stop playing. Just because the game used to be fun, that's no reason to keep playing if it's not fun right now. I took nine months away from this game because I wasn't having fun.

  • PlayEvilDead
    PlayEvilDead Member Posts: 91

    I am proud of your friend's decision as you should be. There are only two things that will motivate this game being made into what it could be. The first is what your friend has done with it, the second is healthy competition that isn't crippled by lawsuits (Friday the 13th) or people too afraid to start over on a new game while better games may be hurt by never growing the community DBD devs have taken for granted. Hopefully Ash Vs. The Evil Dead's Kandarian spirit mode will be the competition that this needs so that both games will have to stay on their toes in order to compete for players.

    There is also Back 4 Blood, but I have some healthy skepticism about that one due to it's publisher, it's developer's previous missteps with a DBD predecessor (Evolve) and the fact that B4B will not allow modding and will instead sell more campaigns and regardless what is said now eventually special infected to Versus players (meaning it'll likely be short-lived and possibly low-pop).

    Ash Vs. The Evil Dead, from the gameplay footage I have seen and the mechanics I read about may be the blend of a solid developer (Saber), a franchise with a large enough pull (Evil Dead), and the gameplay necessary to prevent behavior from coasting along scottfree on easy street with no substantial competition that doesn't get nuked or is poorly marketed and never develops a solid playerbase long enought o live (like Last Year releasing on discord for the facepalm a year before Steam).

  • InList
    InList Member Posts: 85

    @GentlemanFridge

    --The issue lies in the matchmaking, and changing the maps won't fix that. Bad survivors will die to good killers, regardless of the map.--

    This is suggested as an interim solution whilst they work on MMR. It's been over a year now we deserve some sort of quality of life bonus in exchange for killer lock. Plenty of maps are frustrating to play on even if you win.