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Rancor Balance?

KoalaTux
KoalaTux Member Posts: 3
in General Discussions

Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda bs that if you dont get hooked or even rouched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd. I'm ok with a Dstrike counter I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

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  • OGlilSPOOK20
    OGlilSPOOK20 Member Posts: 716
    edited October 2018
    KoalaTux said:

    Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda bs that if you dont get hooked or even rouched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd. I'm ok with a Dstrike counter I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

    I mean hey, survivors have adrenaline and that kinda cucks the killer over at the end of the game. Gain back a health state and a sb! So don't complain about Rancor just because it allows the killer to 1 shot and kill the obsession. It would be a lot more random of who gets it if you don't run DS :) (survivor main here btw)
  • thesuicidefox
    thesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,223

    I've been a Rancor survivor three or so times and have always escaped. I've also used Rancor several times as killer and not got the guy. If you play super immersed all game you can do it. Just leave when the gate opens ASAP.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,951

    @Supernaut said:
    Its also quite handy for your daily challenges! No more burning Moris!

    That's actually a pretty good point. I have stockpiles of mori's so it isn't really an issue for me, but if your options are limited or you want to save your mori this is a good idea.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671

    Rancor isn't even that good...it's not a free kill unless the obsession is stupid.

  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893
    Nickenzie said:
    KoalaTux said:

    Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda bs that if you dont get hooked or even rouched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd. I'm ok with a Dstrike counter I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

    Welcome to Carter's Therapy!

    Carter: Hello, I'll be your therapist today! So, what's the problem?

    KoalaTux: "Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda BS!"

    Carter: Ah, I see. So why is this a problem besides it being a "Free Kill"? The perk is not as great as survivor mains make it out to be.

    KoalaTux: "If you dont get hooked or even touched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd!"

    Carter: Okay, I figured out your problem but you won't like my advice! *Grabs Papers* Have you ever hear of Natural Selection?

    KoalaTux: Does that mean to adapt and survive?

    Carter: Yes yes! It means adapt and... Wait for it...


    KoalaTux: Oh, okay! Thanks!

    Carter: Your welcome! Now move along, I have more survivor mains to talk to!
    You always manage to put a smile on my face.
    You are literally one of the three people on the forum I actually enjoy interacting with.
  • Rebel_Raven
    Rebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,775

    Nope. Rancor's execution mode only activates when the gates are powered, and only targets the obsession.
    Are the gates powered? Are you the obsession? RUN. EXIT._ Hang around at your own risk!_

    If you are trying to heed this advice instead of hanging around to do some risky stuff, maybe use some strategy on which gate you use? Or maybe even the hatch? Consider how you get there?
    The killers can see the gate controls. Maybe try moving in an indirect way to throw off the killer? Running straight towards the gate is going to lead to a bad time.
    If the killer is closer to one gate control, try using the other?

    Heck, I'm wishing they'd -buff- Rancor so it works if the gates are powered, the obsession is the last one left in case the survivors can't open the gates, or if it's down to a hatch play.

    Entitled, no strategy survivors expecting things to be handed to them? Well, I'll relish the Mori. At least you're dying in a more interesting way.

    And when I play survivor, I'm ok with that.

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    @Nickenzie you just made my day. What a hero
  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513
    edited October 2018

    @KoalaTux said:
    I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

    LOL. Right. So, exit gates are all powered and you want the perk to delay for 3 minutes? You should be out the door already.

    Rancor is absolutely fine as it is. Some obsessions just need to learn that teabagging at the gates, attempting unsafe hook rescues, and hunting for the hatch is not a great idea.

    In no way is Rancor a free kill. It's just a fairly weak way of giving one person the Exposed status effect.

    Edit: And it seems most survivors have figured this out already. If I play Rin, assuming the obsession is still alive at the end, most of them are incredibly sneaky and/or ready to make a sharp exit as soon as that last gen goes. But on a Piggy - well, noone expects Rancor on Amanda.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    To be honest, just pretend like the killer has NOED and behave accordingly and you'll be fine.

  • preetygoodforumsofar
    preetygoodforumsofar Member Posts: 81

    @KoalaTux said:
    killer gets a free kill

    thats why i hate noed

  • HuN7r3sS
    HuN7r3sS Member Posts: 211
    I'm actually fine with Rancor, when I play SWF I run decisive, so since I'm expendable at end game I do whatever it takes to get my team out, and earn lots of bp doing it until eventually I get downed
  • yeet
    yeet Member Posts: 1,832

    tha gates are already powered maaaan just leave

  • Well_Placed_HexTotem
    Well_Placed_HexTotem Member Posts: 824
    I usually have the bad luck of being near the killer when I’m the obsession so I have little chance of not being found and killed. But if you’re not close to the killer, its not hard to hide and hope someone opens the door. 

    Its just jarring to load in with no obsession perks and see you’re the obsession. Then you know it’s either Rancor or you’re gonna be tunneled with Remember Me.
  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @KoalaTux said:
    Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda bs that if you dont get hooked or even rouched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd. I'm ok with a Dstrike counter I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

    Nobody uses rancor because its a ######### perk.
    The only time I use it is when I derank afk in order to teach the DS user a lesson for tbagging an afk killer after the gates are open

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @KoalaTux said:
    Right now rancor just feels like the killer gets a free kill, I think it's kinda bs that if you dont get hooked or even rouched the whole game you can be instantly killed and mori'd. I'm ok with a Dstrike counter I just think it should have a 2-3 minute timer so you atleast have some time to counter it and hide.

    While I agree it sucks to be so heavily punished if you become the obsession without using obsession perks I don't think the perk is "unbalanced". As others have said its basically NOED for one person except it gives you the knowledge in advanced that the killer is using it. Now as a solo survivor player who never uses obsession perks it does really suck since randoms never help you out.

  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    I've only seen rancor being used by the killers when the spirit came out just to see the mori. As the obsession you can see the killer so try not to run to him next time. If killers want that kind of info they'll run bitter murmur instead. Rancor is barely used. Just be thankful it's not noed

  • Eight
    Eight Member Posts: 513
    edited October 2018

    @Well_Placed_HexTotem said:
    I usually have the bad luck of being near the killer when I’m the obsession so I have little chance of not being found and killed.

    Lol. I wish I had more games with you.

    I have a vid of one very unlucky obsession who managed to avoid me for the entire game. I finally down him just as the last gen pops (actually, mid-animation picking him up). This was a difficult choice - I felt sorry for him, but also, it wouldn't be a funny story if I just let him go...

    Mori it is. Sorry David. :)

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647
    Rancor a free kill LUL.... gens have to be completed in order to get the pay off that killers want.... meaning they only have... what? 16 seconds or 20 seconds to find the obsession and kill them this is not a free kill kill especially if the obsession is actually smart and hides near the gate.. there's stealth in this game ya know 🤷‍♂️
  • Skemooo
    Skemooo Member Posts: 194

    if your gonna ######### about a stupid endgame perk your probably the little ######### that goes around being toxic with DS.. rancor was designed to exact revenge on ya little shits .. now deal with it like we deal with the stupid DS perk.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    If you're the Obsession, just don't show your face until an Exit Gate has been opened.
    If you're the only one, then the Killer played well and made a good choice of equipping Rancor.

  • M2Fream
    M2Fream Member Posts: 288
    Rancor is not a free kill. You have to find them and catch them. 
    What do you need to do to get a free DS escape? Get caught....