There are only two kinds of matches as killer
In first you destroy solo survivors at 4 gens, and in second you get completely destroyed by SWF with 4 hooks. There is nothing in between. It's like the zebra strips: this game I get ez win, the next one I get destroyed by the powers of comms to the point I have to give up, so that I have an opportunity to wipe the floor with a bunch of solos just after that.
It's how it's been going for be the whole day today and as long as I can remember in general. Today I had to give up completely on Farm, because I was matched with SWF who abused every pallet and did 4-man bodyblocks, then I destroyed 4 solos at 3 gens remaining on Hawkins, then I was matched with a SWF again and had to give up again, because there was nothing I could do to get any kill at all, and just after that I got 4 solos again and received my ez 4k with one gen done. Playing as killer is a pendulum that constantly swings between pure suffering of playing an unwinnable game against SWF and pure bliss of playing an unlosable game against solos. And it never stays in between.
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These matches have been happening to me for weeks whenever I play killer and its getting boring.
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If you're playing against a SWF, try to only hook 2 guys. if you spread the hooks between everyone you will lose.
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And just after that ez 4k with 1 gen done I got a SWF once again, and only was able to get miserable 2k with NOED. I'm starting to think there is some kind of algorithm to it.
Try hooking 2 guys when you can't even catch one, because they are able to loop for 30 pallets straight, hitting with every stun and without making a single mistake.
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which killer are you playing?
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Yeah my scenario's are either rinse or be rinsed. Sometimes there's a tight game, but not often.
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Wraith
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Do you enjoy ez games? People that you stomp feel similar to you getting stomped.
It is true tho, when I played killer my games were mostly like that and something in between was the most enjoyable experience. When everyone gets enough points.
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It is nice after you've been stomped 2-3 games in a row. Its like a refresher
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And after this tough game I met 4 solos again and got my 4k. Pretty stable for a coincidence.
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I'd bring a pretty punishing build. Devour hope in it with undying. Devour hope can win you games against swfs if you play your cards right.
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Yep at high level killer just sucks
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IMO this does not have anything to do with SWF or Solos.
This is just the nature of DBD, DBD is a game of Snowballing. From my experience, most games are either 4Ks or 4 Escapes (or 3Ks with Hatch Escape). Because either the Killer is snowballing fast enough so that the Survivors are not able to do Gens or the Killer cannot apply enough pressure, which results in all Gens being done before the Killer can get into their snowballing.
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I don't believe in hex perks anymore. Devour will stand about 30 seconds against SWF, with undying it will survive for 60 seconds. Not much value. Comms and coordination help in finding totems across the map in the matter of seconds. The only hex I trust in NOED, this one is my last resort and will be my favorite in games against SWF, because those 30 seconds it will stand for it will actually bring some value.
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Well, your other option is to always find the weak link.
We played as a swf today and one of my friends is a rank 11 meh survivor, if you can find that meh survivor(most teams have him, if not so yeah it's gonna be pretty.. hard to win unless they fk up for fun) then try to focus your game on him, not saying to tunnel but to go for him if you feel the game goes south.
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Coincidentally, I almost always get that snowball moment when I play against solos and those 4 escapes (or 3 escapes with one camped/NOEDed kill) when I play against SWF.
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Nah,this doesn't have to be a SWF thing.
I would agree though that most matches feel like a "stomp or get stomped" kind of thing
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When I play against SWF, I always try to tunnel one person. I even eat DS and wait out BT for it. With this approach I get one kill where otherwise I would've got none. In that game where I got 2k with NOED I also tunneled one person, but was only able to finish him in the endgame with the help of NOED. The second person tried to save him, and then was one-hooked. Even with the most optimal tactic and NOED 2k is the ceiling against most SWFs.
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Duh tbh. you shouldn't be rewarded with a 4k for going to the unhooked injured person all over again.
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Unfortunately, it's the most efficient tactic in the game. Eliminating one survivor from the game before the 4th gen is done is a guaranteed win for the killer. If tunneling only brings you 1/2k, it means without tunneling you would've got classic 4 escapes with 8 hooks.
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And you shouldn't get rewarded with 4 escape for going back to the same gen that has progress when there is other gens you can do
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Or maybe you can take an anti loop killer instead of your legions/pigs and learn how to end chases quicker, trying to give a real threat to the team what about that? LOL what a funny comment. I didn't tell him not to tunnel but he shouldn't get a 4k for that, it's dumb cause it shows no killer skills.
Then tunnel do as you please but why are you shocked that you get 2k at best? you don't deserve more than that.
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Then tunnel do as you please but why are you shocked that you get 2k at best? you don't deserve more than that.
Have you even read what I said? You can't be more efficient than with tunneling. If you struggle with tunneling, you will be demolished without it. If I play "nice", do I deserve 4k then? I doubt it, because to my experience and to basic common sense playing inefficiently reduces the odds of victory. So who decides if I "deserve" 4k or not?
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I did read what you've said.
If you think you're a good killer because you catch the injured guy where he has nowhere to run after a hook and thus you deserve a 4k, cause you played effiecntly, then it's your issue.
I play killer a lot and i know i can 4k every game if i just tunnel straight away, it will be pretty easy but tbh I won't feel like i did well, or outsmarted the survivors or made them fear my skill with my killer cause i end chases quick, I just abused the stupid mechanics that the devs confirmed as strats.
So yeah, i got my 4k.. did it make me a good player? nah i'm pretty bad, that's why I don't tunnel every game even tho I know it will make me win easily.
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Or I can just be efficient and knock down the one that takes 10 seconds instead of a 40 second chase were 2 gens pop. All tunneling is just being efficient at your objective as a killer just like doing gens as fast as possible is being efficient as a survivor. I don't normally tunnel untell 2 gens are left so if 3 gens are done in 2 minutes survivors have set a tone and I need to respond equally to keep up
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Why? just tunnel at 5 gens. be super efficient bro. you're making such a good point, do it from the start don't wait for 2/3 gens to be left.
It's funny because everyone knows that tunneling is so efficient yet so lack of skill, so everyone are ashamed that they are doing that unless they "HAVE TO" just do it from the start and get over with it, get your win and feel good about yourself, you're a sick killer.
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At least he isn't insulting people
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No it's just that killers want to play super efficient but also be considered as killers who play well.
so let me tell you, you can't do both. you can mix between the two but if you just tunnel and expect to be rewarded with a 4k, no, 4k should be earned by killers who learnd how to end chases and outsmart survivors quick and actually make them scared, I want the survivor to say "damn he plays well with his x Killer, be careful guys".
They're ashamed cause if the survivor would say "just another tunneler bro, gen rush and leave i'll die" they know they're not skillfull in this game.
So decide, wanna be good or efficent?
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What is "good"?
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The thing is the game is a snowball fest. The speed of the game is to blame for that.
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Good is ending a chase fast when the survivor has ways to defend himself, you overcome that. that's why you have *ta da* killer tutorials on youtube, to teach you how to play GOOD with the killer.
tunneling off hook can be done by my lil brother because pressing m1 to strike him down from 2 meters isn't really hard even for a child.
these are differences and this is why people are ashamed at tunneling and don't do that on 5 gens, even tho they know it's the most efficient strat.
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Your probably right there has been so many time I could of tunneled and didn't and ended up having 3 gens pop about 30 seconds after I 'played nice". I don't tunnel off the bat because getting a kill with 4-5 gens left is a horrible situation to be in for a survivor just like one gen and 4 survivor isn't fun for a killer neither is impossible but its a super sweat fest in both situations. I don't like the double standard this community has killers can't use second chance perks like need that only happens at the end game and is counter able but survivors can use SB,DS,UB,...and its ok and most of the survivor second chance perks can be used multiple times all game. Its ok for survivors to just do gens and be efficient not touch totems or chests all game but the killer does the same and its not ok. Both sides can abuse these perks but the majority aren't trying to use them that way.
I never said I was even a good killer im alright map knowledge is my biggest weakness imo
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I understand you but that's why I made my sarcastic comment.
You'll feel bad to tunnel at 5 gens, cause you know it's kinda like.. cheating? it's like you're not showing you're good.
You wanna feel good, that you're doing well with your killer and that's why you don't tunnel straight away.
People who just tunnel off bat and wanna feel like they also play well.. they can't really prove that to me or other people tbh.
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One does not exclude the other. You can be a good chaser or a bad chaser, and in both cases tunneling will increase your chances of winning dramatically. Nobody is ashamed of tunneling, it just makes no sense. It's like saying "you use your rooks in chess because you are bad and can't win with bishops! You should be ashamed, good chess players win without even touching their rooks!".
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Then let's agree to disagree.
I value killers who beat the *** out of my team pretty fast or at least with less of a struggle because they play so well and learnt the whole gimmicks.
I write gg wp and know that this killer played amazingly, but if it's just another "oh, tunneler boi" then yeah have fun get your 1-2k or even a 4k if the team messed up, but I don't feel like you made something special and I know this guy will lose to a better team.
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And there is my point with double sided how many survivors load in and go you know I'm not going to jump right on a gen I'm going to go do x thing so the killer doesn't just get gen rushed and have 2 hooks because the 3 other survivors had toolboxes?
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