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Average to low MMR is also a joke

JohnWeak
JohnWeak Member Posts: 854
edited October 2021 in General Discussions

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Learning nurse, quite hard to handle. Lost my first trial. I assume my MMR is pretty low, not more than average with her.

Second trial, here is what survivors are bringing in game, they had 200 hours into DbD, noobies. They were clearly terrible but i was worst; honestly nurse gameplay is 15 years old... nothing is intuitive, it's totally garbage (while Blight has a more modern gameplay). I will improve and it's not the subject.

So even at a low/average SBMM, survivors are using green boxes, DS, DH, Unbreakable and gen rush. And BHVR claims the kill rate is 50% ? Sure, all killers are camping tunneling then and it is a garbage game design.

No way that, with the global meta, killers have a 50% win rate without camping and tunneling.

Btw, i didn't tunnel at all, the 13k survivor was hooked for the first time during the end game and they left him to die πŸ˜‚. I guess he did nothing the whole trial.

Comments

  • KateDunson
    KateDunson Member Posts: 714

    Your nurse didn't start at low MMR, every killer started closer to the MMR of your main killer, so let's assume you play trapper and your MMR is 1700, other killers are adjusted to that which means around 1500 more or less. Also it's almost a month that SBMM is out and eventually everyone will reach high MMR cuz it doesn't reset.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,418

    It's really hard to tell based on this one image if the match was "unfair" and you got gen rushed hard or if you are just a sore loser honestly.

    Looking at all the comments and video footage of solo survivors struggling due to imbalanced matchmaking, it's hard to believe that gen rush is so bad at lower ranks. Maybe you just had an unlucky match, or maybe they were smurfs. Sadly those people exist as well.

    What mmr do you think you are with other killers? Because the mmr differences of killers aren't big either.

    Though I will agree that camping and tunneling are probably two of the reasons why kill rates at lower ranks are pretty high.

    That's again, why this game could need some kind of second objective for survivors, or just some actual, serious map rebalancing, so no map is more survivor sided than Coal Tower or Father's Champbell, and then a big nerf to camping and tunneling, and perhaps some solo survivor information buffs.

  • Thrax
    Thrax Member Posts: 974

    so people that only have 200 hours aren't allowed to use good stuff? Get over the fact you still suck with nurse and put the effort into learning

  • Aneurysm
    Aneurysm Member Posts: 5,270

    I'd imagine that one thing very low and very high MMR survivors have in common is seeing a lot of nurse πŸ˜‚

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752

    Though I will agree that camping and tunneling are probably two of the reasons why kill rates at lower ranks are pretty high.

    Camping and Tunneling at low and mid ranks does boost Killers kill rates a lot. It's really only high if not very high ranks where Camping and Tunneling doesn't net 3ks and 4ks consistently.

  • JohnWeak
    JohnWeak Member Posts: 854

    Read again and come back after you have actually read what i have written.

  • JohnWeak
    JohnWeak Member Posts: 854
    edited October 2021

    My point is that developers say the game is balanced at low to average MMR while it's clearly not the case. I can't believe that gen rush is not a thing at lower mmr as holding M1 and doing skill check is not that hard compared to what a killer has to learn.

    And sure i'm a low MMR nurse but i'm a high MMR survivor/Blight/PH/Ceno and demo, i know how the game works, i'm not new at it, explaining the perks i have chosen.

    If 4 survivors at low MMR are using meta perks + gen rush items, there is no way that killers get 2k on average without camping and tunneling. The stats given by BHVR are wrong. They should give us the average time when the first kill is done. i'm pretty sure it's under 5 minutes in 80% of the trials, tunneling et...

  • JohnWeak
    JohnWeak Member Posts: 854

    On this forum you always, consistently over around the real subject.

    Stick to the subject or don't answer.

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752

    The Kill rate of Killers is 60%-65% in average ranks. I consider myself an average player and I tracked 40+ consecutive games and the kill rate stayed between 60%-65% consistently.

    There is definitely camping and tunneling but I would say I see it about 1 out of every 4 games. Average level play is pretty chill. Plus, I'm not seeing meta perks all the time, in fact, I rarely see matches with that many meta perks and hardly ever see BNPs.

  • TheMadCat
    TheMadCat Member Posts: 2,203

    So, at low MMR, Killers bring Ruin? Is this allowed? Oh, and you even have four tier 3 perks! At low MMR!

    People bring what they want in game, no matter what side they play. If you want to take your strongest add-ons/perks, that's right. But don't be surprise if people do the same.

    And as someone stated, if you are high MMR with one Killer, you're probably not low MMR with the others, even if you don't play them. I guess it's to avoid to stomp new players with a Killer we didn't play with for months while we know at least the basics of the Killer gameplay.

  • JohnWeak
    JohnWeak Member Posts: 854

    Then that's the system ######### me up and considering i should perform good with nurse as i'm pretty good with some other killers. I would agree on simple killer with ez power but matching me with fairly high MMR survivor while i'm a total noob with nurse is a joke...

  • Munqaxus
    Munqaxus Member Posts: 2,752

    I can see your point. I think Nurse is a special situation, she's extremely hard to learn. If you had chosen any other killer, you would have been on much more equal footing. I think the MMR still places you higher than you should be with new Killers, but Nurse is almost like playing a completely different game. I just quit trying to play Nurse, she's frustrating, hard to learn, and generally way to stress to mess with.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,418

    Already did. I guess you want to focus more on the items and perks they brought now? But at lower mmr these items, or even perks, generally aren't that much of a problem.

    So I am not quite sure what the problem is, you even said yourself that you played even worse than they did. But then complained about people at lower mmr using meta perks and items, and gen rushing, seemingly making the connection that that's the reason you lost, or you just used this image to show that survivors at lower mmr also use meta builds.