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Is Deathslinger a bottom 5 killer now?

glitchboi
glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023

I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Is Deathslinger a bottom 5 killer now? 57 votes

Yes, he is one of the 5 worst killers in the game.
36%
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No, he is better than that.
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No, he is just as good as he previously was.
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He is currently the worst killer in the game right now.
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FFirebranddNobody_TM 2 votes

Comments

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,517
    No, he is just as good as he previously was.

    He's not bottom 5. He still has some advantages over killers like Legion and Trapper whose power can do practically nothing over an entire game.

    I don't think he's really much worse than he was before. He lost a few fun tricks like shooting through a hole in shack and pretty much requires M&A instead of it being a nice perk you could run for better stealth plays.

    No reason to really play him tho.

  • Aurelle
    Aurelle Member Posts: 3,611
    No, he is better than that.

    He's not necessarily bad, he just takes a bit more skill to play. But that doesn't mean he's fun to play as, though.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023
    edited October 2021

    I'm not sure if he's bottom 5 at the moment. My latest tier list has him ranked no. 23/25 but that may be bound to change in the future.

    The thing is, he just feels... incredibly clunky to play as. He's extremely punishing if you miss, and his chase potential has downgraded a lot. He relies on cooldown add-ons and reload speed add-ons in order to perform decently. There are some times where the survivor can break free if you shoot them in a loop.

    His only redeeming qualities from the nerf is his movement speed while using ADS (which should have been buffed to 90% instead of 85% so that they can remove the movement speed add-ons for something else), and his reduced cooldown from being stunned (his stun cooldown add-ons are actually quite fun now).

  • Nobody_TM
    Nobody_TM Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2021
    He is currently the worst killer in the game right now.

    People who say he's just as good as he was must have never played Deathslinger. Slow ADS has gutted trick shots through small openings; think the most well known one at Killers Shack. Just isn't possible. Holding M2 to zone is more effective than ever using the gun. Its just generally a waste of time for the punishment you have to accept.

    He hits you with a shot at 15 meters, 3 second real time minus the aim, another hit for 3 seconds at 66% movement speed, now he reloads and goes at 76% for 4.6 seconds, now he has permission to chase you again, to which he gets to repeat it all over. Even playing perfectly, the time invested now in a successful reel is just not even worth it, compounded by 110% move speed. Time wise, Deathslinger by all accounts is investing three to four hits to down depending on if his power is used once or twice in the process.

    Clown by all accounts, is just flat out stronger, and he has long been considered the lowest of the low. 115 Move speed, no slowdown on a throw or prepped bottle, 5 shots before reloading, a piss easy Iri to get an insta down, a 5% haste effect to get you to 120%, and a reload time thats far more forgivable. Its just all so tiresome.

  • jesterkind
    jesterkind Member Posts: 7,833
    No, he is just as good as he previously was.

    Deathslinger still has the same ability to down survivors, he just feels worse to play and reaching his top potential became a fair bit harder. Those things are problems, but they're not a "he's too weak now" problem.

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer
    ThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623
    No, he is better than that.

    He's not bottom 5, his Power is usable and not counterintuitive, but he's also not good. Probably around low C or high D

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212
    edited November 2021
    Yes, he is one of the 5 worst killers in the game.

    He's pretty terrible.

    He was a pretty bad killer from the get-go, because he moved at 110% and had basically no map pressure. He ended chases fast if you put the time in to learn how to hit tricky shots, but survivors were never under any threat as soon as they heard the first shot so they powered through gens easily most matches. Also every single miss means the person you're chasing essentially gets a whole extra sprint burst while you reload.

    His power also meant that you would often try to shoot people as they ran from gens and then follow up afterwards, which meant you had little to no time to actually kick a gen, and stopping to do so lost you a LOT of ground so most standard regression perks like Pop were a liability.

    Also his add ons are all pretty crap. Nothing game-changing at all in there.

    Now his power is even clunkier in a chase and has serious downsides for him, so the one thing he was good at is now worse.

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  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713
    Yes, he is one of the 5 worst killers in the game.

    Just off hand I’m guessing he’s in the bottom 5. Previously he was kind of on par with Huntress because being able to instantly shoot from the hip made up for his shots not being guaranteed downs on injured people on a hit from across a pallet. But now that he can’t insta-shoot he’s objectively worse than Huntress, anything he can do she can do at least as well or better (aside from the very minor differences of they reload differently and Deathslinger’s shots have smaller hit boxes which are both good and bad for him)

    I’m guessing bottom 5 then because, while he’s not literally clearly the worst of all the killers, there are only a handful of killers I think people might say are worse than he is. (Legion and Clown maybe? Some people might or might not put Trickster above or below him? Maybe Pig or Trapper or Wraith?) So bottom 5 or maybe bottom 6, something like that? Mileage may vary.

    Either way he’s clearly not literally as good as he was. He got hit with two significant nerfs (shot speed and terror radius) and nothing to compensate for it that I can recall. I’m sure excellent Deathslingers are still winning games, but then again excellent Clowns win games too but that doesn’t make Clown great overall. (No offense to Clown, I actually enjoy playing him, I just think he’s a bit weak overall.)

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,445
    He is currently the worst killer in the game right now.

    I can't think of a single thing Deathslinger does the best.

    Range? Huntress does it better.

    Hits at loops? Pyramid Head does it better.

    Fast downs? Chain Saw bros do it better.

    Abuse Exposed and other M1 perks? Nurse and Spirit do it better.

    Deep Wound? Legion does it better.

    Stealth? Bahahahaha, he can't do that anymore.

    Outside of lore and aesthetics, I legitimately see no reason to play as him ever. Somebody does everything he does better... and he's not the best generalist. That title probably goes to Demo right now.

  • Lochnload_exe
    Lochnload_exe Member Posts: 1,360
    No, he is better than that.

    He really feels the exact same to play to me, people say he feels extremely clunky to play, I'd say he still feels about the same, especially compared to killers like Pyramid Head and Freddy who feel so unsatisfying. Other than the TR nerf which sucks, his chase feels the same if you are actually good at landing shots.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023

    I started playing Slinger more and somehow he feels... better to play as?

    His zoning is actually better because of his movement speed buff, and I've been getting more shots. Cooldown stun add-ons are also really fun with the reduction to his stun time.

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737
    Yes, he is one of the 5 worst killers in the game.

    Always has been.

  • Lochnload_exe
    Lochnload_exe Member Posts: 1,360
    No, he is better than that.

    Honestly agreed and this feels like how it should've been all along. His counterplay is similar to huntress's now, but he is still really strong in chase and can still land shots, he just takes a little more skill now (that must be why people don't like him). Just like the spirit change, I now also feel less guilty playing him lol

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023
    edited November 2021

    What's weird is that he actually feels easier to play as for me. But hey, that's probably just me. Maybe I'm just playing him more in order to learn him.

  • Lochnload_exe
    Lochnload_exe Member Posts: 1,360
    No, he is better than that.

    Oh yeah, being asked to actually aim instead of quickscoping weirdly makes landing shots easier for me too, I was fine at quickscoping but I appreciate the sniper feel of him way more.

  • Bennett_They1Them
    Bennett_They1Them Member Posts: 2,513
    No, he is better than that.

    I've always thought slinger should have gun modification addons, like a scope.

  • Tr1nity
    Tr1nity Member Posts: 5,047
    Yes, he is one of the 5 worst killers in the game.

    And a silencer and a 30 round magazine.

  • glitchboi
    glitchboi Member Posts: 6,023

    That would actually be really cool tbh. Would make for a cool add-on and give him extra creativity. Plus, he needs better add-ons anyways.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,669
    No, he is better than that.

    He's pretty bad now, just not bottom 5.