The Artist - "More potential than Nurse"?
Recently watched a Dowsey video where he claims that The Artist has more potential than Nurse. Now, personally, I disagree with this but I wanted to see what other players on here think.
I believe The Artist is going to be a very solid A Tier, if she remains as is from the PTB, but I don't see her having more potential than Nurse.
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She has potential probably will match somewhat with blight. Nurse.. I don't think will be beat or matched ever again (thankfully)
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I doubt it. I don't think any killer in the game will ever have a higher ceiling than Nurse, nor higher potential than Nurse, especially when she's using double range or recharge add-ons.
Though she will absolutely be a killer with a high ceiling, that I don't deny. I just don't think anything in this game will ever try to challenge Nurse for her crown.
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Dowsey also thought Pinhead was S tier.
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Nah, she will not be. She will prob get nerfed at some point (maybe even before she visits Live servers).
Even if she would stay or even got some small buffs she would not beat Nurse (if we are talking about playing these killers to their absolute best).
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I remember that lol.
Nah she has S tier potential but not even close to nurse, the way nurse can ignore game mechanics makes her highest potential much higher than any killer.
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I can't wait for god Artists to be the new Nurse
I genuinely mean that and I'm not saying it from a place of "hoping to get her nerfed". I genuinely think this killer is nutty and in the hands of people who master her she will have the greatest potential of any killer in the game. I mean honestly, she can injure survivors from across the map through walls and obstacles with well timed/placed shots.
That is insane. Even if you don't end up injuring them you can still use these crows to scout gens and harass survivors off of them or your totems. Idk why so many people are getting so triggered at people coming out and saying that she will be/is very strong because she is lol
Killers have wanted a strong killer to be added to the game for a while now and is like suddenly we're not allowed to discuss it
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Various streams around the time he was released.
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Neither anything challenge Artist for her crow.
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Dowsey also thought pre-buff Trickster was B tier.
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Her potencial is definetly 100% biggest in DBD but you'd have to be a psychic to utilise it.
It's not realistic to think anyone can reach her max potencial since you literally would need a wallhack on all survivors and then pipoint land every crow every time it's off cooldown doing damage across the map whenever anyone gets marked.
In normal gameplay, she's imo equal to nurse. In straight 1v1, killer has most of the control in their hands, if you land your crows every time without missing or getting baited ever, nothing can really stop you.
I really hope she makes it into live without getting destroyed, balancing her is fine but please if you nerf some things then buff others to compensate. It's been ages since we got contender for S tier killer spot (one that doesn't have mobility power at that) and I really hope she'll make it.
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this is a sentence that can come from someone who doesn't know this game at all
wall-passing ability itself has a better potential the more complex the map,
and it doesn't make sense to compare it to the nurse who ignores all structures with fastest movement speed in chase
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I miss the Depipster. The sheer thrill of going into a trial going 110 speed and shooting peas.
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Artist is in no way even close to Nurse
I see her as a better Huntress, a very solid killer but definitely not amazing since Im pretty sure you can crouch under her projectile and avoid it completely.
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If I was a streamer I would refrain from making hot takes like that.
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She can potentially down everyone in a team without even moving from where she spawns, but you'd have to own literal wall hacks to do it. So yes, her potential is higher than Nurse's, but nobody is ever going to reach it legitimately.
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I think he's somewhat right. The Artist has the same potential as nurse, but on a larger scale and x4.
The birds just have too much pressure available to them - especially since they go infinitely, and through walls.
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Wait until people face the Snartist she will bascially be the sniper killer
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Considering how kind they haven't been to killer powers that aren't exactly overpowered lately, I'm fully expecting a fat nerf to her. Enjoying her while she lasts, cause my money is on her NOT.
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Nurse is stronger because there is nothing anyone can do against a very good one except going full stealth, the moment she spots you, you are going down in 10-15 seconds, the Artist at least you can press W to gain some distance.
What Artist has is more potential in the "low effort-massive reward" departament, she is extremely easy to use in a way the Survivors dont have much to do and will eat a hit yes or yes, you can always close any loop without any dificulty, you can always check gens easily etc, same stuff as Forever Freddy, he wasnt the most OP of its era but damn he was the easiest and most rewarding, the thing that infuriated me the most wasnt dying to him, but knowing the player was garbage and was getting spoonfed by Freddy basekit.
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Yeah for one time shot of 1 crow each time at best, none of these perks last long enough to come even close to fulfilling her max potencial. You'd need to shoot and land crow cross map blind every 5 seconds to reach her max potencial, not a single aura reading perk comes even close, they help but good game sence of survivor movement would do far more for you.
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we tested it and you can't duck under the crows if you are on the same level.
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her max potential will be reached in less than a month assuming she can get off PTB without BVHR doing a large amount of negative changes. Her highest potential is a trapping hag who will also be a ranged killer with some tracking. I do not think this is better than Nurse.
Scott viewpoint on the killer is most accurate viewpoint in my opinion. map-ranged gen sniping will be a easy gimmick that survivors will easily adapt to very quickly. People are definitely overestimating her complexity and how simple she will be to pick up for almost any player.
Maybe if she had the ability to send a crow and than teleport to the flying crow mid-flight, she'd be S-tier but that would just be another Nurse.
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Not pinhead but he said trickster with a certain set of addon would be S tier and those addon got nerf hard and trickster became a meme XD
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Post edited by DangerScouse on1
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I think not, if they go full W against the artist you can't do much other than chase normally and expect the survivor to stop at some loop, while with nurse you can hit them faster and you don't need to set up anything, that of course if you play with addons. Basekit nurse can't do much againts full W survivors.
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When the artist player become good he will be able to hit the survivor with 2 crows easy.
Ofc its easy for the artiste to put some crows in a loop and wait for the survivor to run in them but that the basic stuff that easy to counter
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Dowsey is Dowsey.
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That's going to be her average playstyle should she stays the same as on PTB. Her max potencil is what the theoretical limit is which with her is landing every single crow on anyone no matter the circumstances all the time, as I said not possible but is the theoretical top potencial.
That's why I would like some changes to make shooting crows as often as possible and getting rewared for beiing good with them. The trapping is cheesy and should be rebalanced, the damage should be removed from trapping, the swarm should stay and so that it's not only nerfs (we want another S tier killer afterall), I'd add 10% hindered for 5s when you walk through a crow or something like that. That and more changes would do her good.
If devs make some changes to reward skillful gameplay with her and nerf some of the easy to use cheese, she's going to be absolute blast to play for both, killers and survivors.
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I got a warning for similar kind of thread a while ago mentioning other streamer.
Just a heads up.
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that doesn't change anything. Hindered ability would just make her have freddy snares. if you want 115% m/s killer with hindered traps, than you should pick freddy. She is designed to be trapping killer first before being ranged killer. her range is more secondary to her ability and further enforces her zoning. Its not about trapping. Its about lining up arrows alongside trajectories and than firing when a survivor cross the said trajectory.
how good her range is has yet to be realized. We would need see her on live servers vs survivors that have good movement to see how viable that is though I imagine that hitting twice in small time frame is recipe for long chase. The skillful ranged killers reside in deathslinger, huntress, trickster. Too bad one of them got the dev hammer and k-pop guy struggles to win.
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I agree with you.
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