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What is wrong with lobbies?

Swiftblade131
Swiftblade131 Member Posts: 2,056
edited November 2018 in General Discussions

A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

Comments

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187

    "it's a bug!" - random killer main

    :silenced:

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    lmao it's bad

  • Nick
    Nick Member Posts: 1,286

    Yeah its almost like after 30 minutes your lobby gets detected and people finally start joining. I have the same

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 14,459

    Yeah at rank 1 killer I'm getting like 20-30min que's as well

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @Master said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

    They cannot just "fix" a problem that's related to there not being enough survivors to go around.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    @Master said:

    @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

    They cannot just "fix" a problem that's related to there not being enough survivors to go around.

    I get survivors without problems at green ranks.
    Dont act like lobbies are workign properly and its just a lack of players, because this simply isnt the case

    And yet survivors have not problem getting into a killer lobby instantly. Soon as I press join I'm in a lobby and it's been like that going from rank 15 all the way to 1 for me. Sure it's not always a full lobby, but it is a lobby and I will bounce to help fill another if it is taking too long...like 60 seconds. There's a bug all right and when they fix it, you will be averaging out your instant wait times with those who wait forever - so you can all wait for the same amount of time for a game.

    You all don't get it - survivors are NOT missing your lobbies. When that bug is fixed it isn't going to magically make more survivors appear to fill everyone's lobby quickly.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @darktrix said:

    @Master said:

    @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

    They cannot just "fix" a problem that's related to there not being enough survivors to go around.

    I get survivors without problems at green ranks.
    Dont act like lobbies are workign properly and its just a lack of players, because this simply isnt the case

    And yet survivors have not problem getting into a killer lobby instantly. Soon as I press join I'm in a lobby and it's been like that going from rank 15 all the way to 1 for me. Sure it's not always a full lobby, but it is a lobby and I will bounce to help fill another if it is taking too long...like 60 seconds. There's a bug all right and when they fix it, you will be averaging out your instant wait times with those who wait forever - so you can all wait for the same amount of time for a game.

    You all don't get it - survivors are NOT missing your lobbies. When that bug is fixed it isn't going to magically make more survivors appear to fill everyone's lobby quickly.

    Precisely. Survivors enter a lobby as soon as they glance the join lobby button because there's so many killers available. Instant survivor queues + long killer queues are the tell-tale sign that there's not enough survivors to go around.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited November 2018

    @darktrix said:

    @Master said:

    @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

    They cannot just "fix" a problem that's related to there not being enough survivors to go around.

    I get survivors without problems at green ranks.
    Dont act like lobbies are workign properly and its just a lack of players, because this simply isnt the case

    And yet survivors have not problem getting into a killer lobby instantly. Soon as I press join I'm in a lobby and it's been like that going from rank 15 all the way to 1 for me. Sure it's not always a full lobby, but it is a lobby and I will bounce to help fill another if it is taking too long...like 60 seconds. There's a bug all right and when they fix it, you will be averaging out your instant wait times with those who wait forever - so you can all wait for the same amount of time for a game.

    You all don't get it - survivors are NOT missing your lobbies. When that bug is fixed it isn't going to magically make more survivors appear to fill everyone's lobby quickly.

    People kept throwing around the same bull during the Halloween event. "Oh, it's a lobby bug! That must be it!". The devs stated there was no bug. Matchmaking may not be lax enough for fast matches, but every imbalance of players isn't miraculously evaporated by claiming it's a bug.

    I have no problems getting lobbies as a survivor, solo or SWF. But as the killer, the only consistent survivors I get are teams of SWF with uneven ranks. It's not a coincidence.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    Damn, if killer lobby times are actually long because of the newest patch, than that's hilarious. I mean I get that it was killer sided, but the game definitely isn't killer sided yet. Like at all. It's just in quite a good spot now, for the more viable killers. Except Nurse of course. But she is broken and just needs to be reworked heavily.
    I mean I just played many survivor games yesterday solo and I was able to escape in about half of those games. Solo survivor can still be a lot of fun.

    Obviously solo survivors need to be buffed to the level of swf survivors, as every survivor nerf hits solo survivors more than swf survivors. This game needs to be balanced around swf, but that can't work as long as solo survivors have a clear disadvantage in comparison to swf survivors. A gen rush nerf people have been asking for would probably make games against really good swf survivor teams finally balanced, but against all other survivor teams it would be nothing but a slaughter for killers. They need to add all sorts of advantages that swf survivors have to the base kit of survivors, like Kindred, Bond or even stuff like if a survivor finds a totem all survivors should know about that totem (although that means Hex perks would finally need a rework as well), and then buff all killers to the level of Hag, huntress or Hillbilly. I believe that would make the game as balanced as possible.

  • RuneStarr
    RuneStarr Member Posts: 850

    I'm getting full lobbies within 2 minutes at rank 2-1 (depending on the prev match), but on PS4. Plenty of survivors to go around there.

    ######### fps/lack of optimization is worth it when it means you can actually get games.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    @WalterWh1te said:
    It is the Event! Oh wait...

    It is a bug! Oh wait...

    Every single survivor deranked on purpose! Oh wait...

    A lot of people stopped playing survivor because its not fun to go against the same Ruin, Camping, Tunneling Killers! This can't be it. It just doesn't fit my personal mindset about balance in this game!

    It is Russian Hackers! Obviously!

    (If ou find the sarcasm, you can keep it)

    Wait what's the problem with Ruin? I mean sure I would love to see Ruin appear less as well, but right now it's the only viable perk for killers to slow down the game somewhat, which killers need because of the insane speed at which gens can be repaired. I wish Thanatohpobia and Pop Goes the Weasel would be buffed, as well as Dying light Reworked to have some alternatives to ruin, but as of right now, Ruin is by far the most viable perk in the game.

    I understand tunneling and in particular camping though. It always baffles me when people finally want a nerf to gen rush, but then are totally ok with camping and tunneling. Sadly right now tunneling is one of the most viable strategy against gen rush, because once one survivor is dead it will slow down the gen progress quite a bit. But camping needs to go and if gen rush ever gets nerfed so does tunneling.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,668

    i dont know what all you guys are having problems with, since the event is over my lobbies work perfectly fine. i usually wait around 1 to 5 minutes and got my survivors.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093
    Just wait for the rank reset.
    The event messed the ratio up by forcing to many survive mains into playing killer. On top of that, most of the survivors depiped non stop, because they got their vials and disconnected or suicided. 

    If the lobbies are still ######### up after the rank reset, I'll start believing that there are not enough survivors. Until then... meh, just hot air.
  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    @Tsulan said:
    Just wait for the rank reset.
    The event messed the ratio up by forcing to many survive mains into playing killer. On top of that, most of the survivors depiped non stop, because they got their vials and disconnected or suicided. 

    If the lobbies are still [BAD WORD] up after the rank reset, I'll start believing that there are not enough survivors. Until then... meh, just hot air.

    I'm hoping it's that as well.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,093
    Radiant said:

    Is. The. Nerf.
    Get over it guys...

    Need another proof?
    The bloodpoint event right after the halloween event (that gave BP too) to try to call back some surv... weird, no?

    STATS

    • From July, when the exhaustion nerf happened (together with other nerf to surv and killer buffs), the playerbase has decreased steadily (ring any bell?)
    • "Last drop" Patch happens on 16 Oct and then...
    • Saturday 20 Oct: peak 51k players
    • Saturday 27 Oct: peak 44k players
    • Saturday 3 Nov: peak 34k players - when everybody was supposed to come back after event

    10k less players per week after the patch.
    We will see what will happen...

    Source: https://steamcharts.com/app/381210#1m

    You forgot to say that this game will be dead in 4 weeks. According to your logic.
  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    Actually, today the longest time I had to wait to get a match as a killer was like 2 or 3 minutes. That's at rank 1. So it does seem like it's getting better.

  • Jed
    Jed Member Posts: 254

    I was on for over two hours yesterday and could only get two games in as killer. Of course I had no problem starting a game as a suvivor. I've also had the game lock up when loading a new game.

  • HP150
    HP150 Member Posts: 455
    edited November 2018

    Do people actually believe that all of the survivor mains switched over to killer? Despite the queue times? And we're supposed to believe that there is a lack of survivors, all of the while the average population of the game being about the same as ever?

    Quick, name one survivor main streamer that has switched over and become a killer main since 2.3.0. Because I can name a number of killer mains that have switched over since the lobbies have become BUGGED.

  • SoulBagel
    SoulBagel Member Posts: 19

    One thing I have noticed on PS4 is when you join a game as survivor and you check your friends list for current game, it will sometimes have peoples names listed that are not in there with you. I wonder if this is creating a false positive and the game thinks it is full.

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,082

    The weird thing is that yesterday it seemed to be quite getting back to normal again with only around 5 minutes of waiting times.
    But today it seems for me like my Rank1 experience is back to zero. At least 15 to 20 minutes waiting times just to face a coordinated SWF trolololo team.
    Honestly the Lobby queues is the main reason why I barely play killer at the time and let my useless dailies expire. I even lost my general mood to play DbD. It's just not worth my time anymore and I don't understand why they had to do the Blood Rush event right now, while killers are facing these kind of difficulties. Even most DbD streamers I watch barely stream or switched too survivor only for a while now. (Not counting the Last Year beta weekend).
    Just hope the upcoming rank reset might fix it a little bit.

  • Radiant
    Radiant Member Posts: 187
    edited November 2018
    @HP150 @SoulBagel lol
    Typical killers main full of hate.

    Get over it, survs have lost the fun and they are nit playing as much as they used to.

    The additional obvious proof is the BP event right after another BP event: they try to have players back.

    During the event "is a bug"
    Then devs said no bug "is the event vial cap"
    Then they removed cap "is the event, wait until it finishes"
    Then the event finished "is a bug"

    Rotfl guys, rly...
    Let's hope i am wrong, what to say...
  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    @Radiant said:
    @HP150 @SoulBagel lol
    Typical killers main full of hate.

    Get over it, survs have lost the fun and they are nit playing as much as they used to.

    The additional obvious proof is the BP event right after another BP event: they try to have players back.

    During the event "is a bug"
    Then devs said no bug "is the event vial cap"
    Then they removed cap "is the event, wait until it finishes"
    Then the event finished "is a bug"

    Rotfl guys, rly...
    Let's hope i am wrong, what to say...

    Dude give it up finally. Don't you have anything better to do? We'll see how this game will be in a few days from now, maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong. I do hope you are wrong, because that would be ridiculous if survivors just stopped playing the game because of a healing and pallet nerf. I certainly hope most survivor mains aren't as whiny as you are.
    Also, yesterday I had to wait like 2 or 3 minutes to fill up lobbies, and that is at rank 1.

  • ad19970
    ad19970 Member Posts: 6,759

    damn right now I'm playing and i am finding lobbies instantly. Like 1 or 2 seconds after I start a lobby. At rank 1. No idea what's going on with the match making right now.

  • GrannyonAcid
    GrannyonAcid Member Posts: 476

    @ad19970 said:
    damn right now I'm playing and i am finding lobbies instantly. Like 1 or 2 seconds after I start a lobby. At rank 1. No idea what's going on with the match making right now.

    Lucky. Still 5-10 minutes for me. Thinking about hitting this with the uninstall again. I feel like 5-10 minute wait for a 10 minute game is just not really worth it. I miss the days of instant queues.

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @darktrix said:

    @Master said:

    @se05239 said:

    @Master said:

    @Swiftblade131 said:
    A bit over 31k people playing. I am only at rank 10 right now with killer.

    And I have been waiting about half an hour now. Finally got 1 survivor? What gives?

    I knew survivors didn't like or "couldn't make it" cause it's just ever so hard to be past rank 15. But rank 10, really?

    Reopen the lobby. Sometimes they are straight up bugged.

    Sadly BHVR still hasnt fixed this problem

    They cannot just "fix" a problem that's related to there not being enough survivors to go around.

    I get survivors without problems at green ranks.
    Dont act like lobbies are workign properly and its just a lack of players, because this simply isnt the case

    And yet survivors have not problem getting into a killer lobby instantly. Soon as I press join I'm in a lobby and it's been like that going from rank 15 all the way to 1 for me. Sure it's not always a full lobby, but it is a lobby and I will bounce to help fill another if it is taking too long...like 60 seconds. There's a bug all right and when they fix it, you will be averaging out your instant wait times with those who wait forever - so you can all wait for the same amount of time for a game.

    You all don't get it - survivors are NOT missing your lobbies. When that bug is fixed it isn't going to magically make more survivors appear to fill everyone's lobby quickly.

    The 3 man lobby bug isnt the only bug when it comes to lobbies.
    In fact there is a bug where you open a bugged lobby and noone can join, if you dont restart this one you can wait forever :wink: > @Radiant said:

    Is. The. Nerf.
    Get over it guys...

    Need another proof?
    The bloodpoint event right after the halloween event (that gave BP too) to try to call back some surv... weird, no?

    STATS

    • From July, when the exhaustion nerf happened (together with other nerf to surv and killer buffs), the playerbase has decreased steadily (ring any bell?)
    • "Last drop" Patch happens on 16 Oct and then...
    • Saturday 20 Oct: peak 51k players
    • Saturday 27 Oct: peak 44k players
    • Saturday 3 Nov: peak 34k players - when everybody was supposed to come back after event

    10k less players per week after the patch.
    We will see what will happen...

    Source: https://steamcharts.com/app/381210#1m

    The event annoyed me so much that I don't feel like playing DbD atm, even though they have this bp event atm

    If survivors actually leave the game because they are slowly losing their ez games, then dbd is doomed. However,I will only believe that if queues are still that bad in a few weeks.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    Well if you aren't part of an swf for 'ez games' what have you got to look forward to in a trial?

    1) Get chased and caught. Unless you are a looping god who hogs the killer time through the entire trial - you will get caught and can probably look forward to getting tunneled/camped. If you did 'git gud' and loop them, then get caught, you can probably also look forward to getting tunneled/camped.

    2) You press M1 and make skill checks the entire game.

    3) Get sandbagged by other survivors.

    4) Make saves, that is if the killer is a champ and not a camp who allows it to happen.

    And on top of this you get far less bloodpoints over time than killers.

    This is the experience new players get. So where's the incentive for playing survivor? SWF also needs...friends...so you have to get everyone together to play and if part of your crew leaves due to lost interest, that could snowball into everyone in that swf not caring to play.

    The thing that should be concerning is if there's a bug preventing survivors from joining killer lobbies (which there probably is) - survivors don't seem to be impacted in finding a killer lobby or complaining about not getting into killer lobbies and having to wait as long as killers for a game. So the lobbies they do get are apparently more than adequate to support the survivor's demand. That's why I feel if such a bug is fixed it will average out killer wait times, not make them disappear.