Sole Survivor and OoO
Theoretically, the combo of these two perks is supposed to work. But does anyone else feel sometimes like it's bugged? I just finished a game where I had 2 tokens on SS and killer couldn't see me (no bitter murmur, bbq and anything else) yet he ran straight to my position and killed me. In lobby he said he could see my aura. It wasn't the only occasion it happened to me, killers could see my aura even at 3 tokens. Any fellow SS + OoO users that share my experiences?
Also, I'd like to confirm my SS + OoO maths. I'll take tier 3 of the perks as the base.
Object of Obsession - lets both Killer and You see each other auras in a range of 64m (while You're not obsession) or 72m (while You're obsession). It is deactivated when You're within Terror Radius.
Sole Survivor - reduces the Killer's Aura reading range by 50/75/100 % (depending on number of tokens)
Terror Radius - average TR is 32m
So let's say You're obsession.
You gain 1 token, OoO range for the killer is reduced to 36m. So he still has 4m left where he can see You.
But at 2 tokens, OoO gets reduced to 18m.
Am I safe to assume You're practically invisible to killers at just 2 tokens? Since they need to be within 18m of You to see the aura, but since TR begins at 32m, this would never happen.
For the non-obsession match up it gets even more interesting.
At 1 token, killer's aura reading gets reduced to 32m.
Does that mean, that if TR begins at 32m, You're already invisible to killer at just 1 token?
^Sorry for long post, was always wondering if I do math correctly. Although it may not matter if the perk combo is really bugged 
As a side note, I equip SS first, if order makes any difference, similar to items.
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@Karaage said:
Theoretically, the combo of these two perks is supposed to work. But does anyone else feel sometimes like it's bugged? I just finished a game where I had 2 tokens on SS and killer couldn't see me (no bitter murmur, bbq and anything else) yet he ran straight to my position and killed me. In lobby he said he could see my aura. It wasn't the only occasion it happened to me, killers could see my aura even at 3 tokens. Any fellow SS + OoO users that share my experiences?Also, I'd like to confirm my SS + OoO maths. I'll take tier 3 of the perks as the base.
Object of Obsession - lets both Killer and You see each other auras in a range of 64m (while You're not obsession) or 72m (while You're obsession). It is deactivated when You're within Terror Radius.
Sole Survivor - reduces the Killer's Aura reading range by 50/75/100 % (depending on number of tokens)
Terror Radius - average TR is 32mSo let's say You're obsession.
You gain 1 token, OoO range for the killer is reduced to 36m. So he still has 4m left where he can see You.
But at 2 tokens, OoO gets reduced to 18m.
Am I safe to assume You're practically invisible to killers at just 2 tokens? Since they need to be within 18m of You to see the aura, but since TR begins at 32m, this would never happen.For the non-obsession match up it gets even more interesting.
At 1 token, killer's aura reading gets reduced to 32m.
Does that mean, that if TR begins at 32m, You're already invisible to killer at just 1 token?^Sorry for long post, was always wondering if I do math correctly. Although it may not matter if the perk combo is really bugged
As a side note, I equip SS first, if order makes any difference, similar to items.BBQ isn’t effected until all 3 tokens are acquired, by that point BBQ can’t even be activated again. So Sole Survivor is useless against BBQ, that’s how he found you
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Here's my suggestion, if you get to high ranks :
Unequip OoO.
I personally do anything, as killer, to kill an OoO carrier, and make sure that if I ever catch the guy, he will never hit the ground again. And most killers that I know (and I'm on a community discord) act the same.We consider it a SWF killer radar, and I personally accept to lose the round just for the single purpose of killing OoO carriers.
Just a friendly warning, sir!About your question : I'm not sure, since I've never seen an OoO dying after his teammates.
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Sorry, I know this is late but I would like to point out something. Your math is correct, however, you are using the survivor as the center point of the perk rather than the killer. After 1 token (non obsession) you are invisible within 32 meters of the killer (basically useless). After 2 tokens, you are invisible within a 48 meter range of the killer (16 meters outside terror radius). After all survivors are dead, you should theoretically be immune.
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Runiver said:
Here's my suggestion, if you get to high ranks :
Unequip OoO.
I personally do anything, as killer, to kill an OoO carrier, and make sure that if I ever catch the guy, he will never hit the ground again. And most killers that I know (and I'm on a community discord) act the same.We consider it a SWF killer radar, and I personally accept to lose the round just for the single purpose of killing OoO carriers.
Just a friendly warning, sir!About your question : I'm not sure, since I've never seen an OoO dying after his teammates.
I use OoO with SS on Laurie when I go solo. I frequently am the last one to survive and it's absolutely hilarious when you can non-stop see the Killer's Aura without them seeing yours.
It's very challenging to play but that's the fun in it.3 -
Regarding OP's question:
With OoO, the Killer sees you within a range of their Terror Radius to 64/72 metres.
With 1 Token on SS: TR-32/36 metres
With 2 Tokens on SS: TR-16/18 metres
With 3 Tokens on SS: No more Aura-reading
So basically, all Killers with a TR above 16/18 metres will not see you anymore from 2 Tokens onwards.
However, BBQ & Chilli is immune to Sole Survivor as it has an infinite range.
50 and 75% deducted from infinity is still infinity, at least for anyone who's paid attention in math class.
By the point Token 3 applies, BBQ will already long have revealed your Aura due to the delay.3 -
Doesnt work vs BBQ though. Since he can see the aura before that person is sacrificed. So before you get your 3 tokens. He got to see your aura up to 9 times
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