killer became soooo boring. Need some changes BADLY

I swear killer has always been fun for me since I first started playing this game until this patch 5.4.0. Everything has been ruined and became soo boring for killer. I swapped to survivor and honestly survivor is WAY more fun compared to killer. Playing killer honestly makes me feel depressed. I really hope the killer experience gets improved sometime in the future, it needs it badly.

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  • itsquiet27
    itsquiet27 Member Posts: 289

    chases aren't really engaging or satisfying as they used to be. it feels so crappy when you chase a survivor and finally land a hit on him he gets more connected loops with pallets and a back up dead hard just in case so you're forced to drop the chase and find others. ok so you land a hit and they are injured. u ignore him they heal and u gain nothing out of it but waste time. I remember there was a time in this game where hit and run used to be a valid tactic, not anymore, nope. that's why im saying killer is pathetically boring to play now. it's gross honestly in it's current state.

  • Smuk
    Smuk Member Posts: 735

    1. Either deal with it

    2. Play meta killers (meta perks and addons

    3. Enjoy playing survivor for a week

    4. Play something else. Cote recommended civilization, but i find europa universalis iv much better

  • KerJuice
    KerJuice Member Posts: 2,111

    Yea even when winning killer is not exciting. Forget about losing, that’s far from fun- downright infuriating at times. Doing meme builds with low expectations does help though. I have a complete BP build with bubba: Beast of Prey, Barbecue, Thrill of the Hunt, & Distressing. Slapped on his add-on for his chainsaw not to insta-down but give extra BP. Now I average 29-30K BP even with no kills. I purposely don’t tunnel or camp. That makes for a rewarding play seeing the hooks I get w/o an insta down. If I “lose” with this build, I get more BP than if I didn’t have anything- so my time wasn’t wasted. I’m not a day one player so I’m still grinding Prestiging & all perks for every character.

    Just recently starting doing an endgame with trapper: No Way Out, Remember Me, NoEd, & Bitter Murmer. Then slapped on the add-ons for the traps to reset every 30 secs & to hurt survivors if disabled. I place traps at the exit gates then M1 the whole game. I dont even bother picking up and placing traps. The random traps get set in the most wide open spaces and shocks me when someone actually runs into one of them. I even run into them by accident sometimes, not expecting a trap to be there (not paying attention). Kind of adds a refreshing twist to playing killer, with meme builds.

  • ThatOneDemoPlayer
    ThatOneDemoPlayer Member Posts: 5,623

    DbD in 2021 is really cool

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Wow, we have the exact opposite experience.

    I find survivor to be very static and repetitive.

    Killer...for all the problems and frustrations I have with the role - being bored isn't one of them.

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    Have you ran into the shift w meta? That's my problem there's no real interaction between killer and survivor the problem is it counters 95% of the roster. Even when I'm playing killers that are loopable it's hold w and then loop and 5 gens are done.

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    Yeah last about 2 minutes and I'm into a new game. If survivors hold shift w you gave to play out the whole game its not the same plus bt works well against camping(bubba is one killer there's 25 others so don't even)

  • Sludge
    Sludge Member Posts: 768
    edited December 2021

    Shift W was always meta.

    This is a meme spread by survivors who want BHVR to stop making killers with anti-loop.

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    Shift w hasn't always been meta I started playing mid 2018 and shift w was not a thing. It's became a think became survivors found it super effective against anti loop killer and its also effective against m1 killers. I just find the w meta boring on both sides. I would love to see behavior bring down loop strength while at the exact same time bringing down all anti loop killers also shrinking map size. The problem is they have to make these changes at the same time or one side will end up completely screwed.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    So has survivor. If the killer knows what they are doing, it is impossible to escape unless all 4 are in the best gaming chairs.

    Anti-loop killers, oppressive killers and the loadouts, etc. Solo is still a guaranteed loss unless the killer is slacking and being friendly.

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076

    Absolutely. I find that stressful and annoying, but not...boring.

    When I get tired of it, I generally switch over to Hag, Artist, Cenobite (sorta) or Demogorgon who absolutely rock people who try this.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    It... Doesn't work vs 95% of the roster? I know because I specifically look for Killers it doesn't work against because I dislike facing that.

    That's why I currently main Spirit Legion and a bit of Blight. In a weird sort of way, Trapper counters it too... Can't hold W if your ankle is caught in a bear trap.

    I used to also play a lot of hit and run style... But... CoH basically broke that.

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    Weird but it's your opinion. I like variety I can only play a killer so much before I need to play something different. I find the problem is almost all anti loop killers play exactly the same just looks different the game play boils down to the same thing. M1 killers can be looped or w keyed making them feel bad to Play and most mobile killers are such a pain on console. So I end up playing alot of huntress and try hitting some crazy shots.

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294

    I can agree with you on this one.

    I wouldn't say boring. But it is way more stressful and sometimes frustrating when validated multiple times.

    I often ask myself if it is worth it. My answer is usually no...

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    You name 3 killers out of 26 that's pretty close to 90%. That only works if they step into a trap and if they are just running away not looping you have to have traps in odd spots that survivors might not even go to. Legion is super countered by w. As soon as you heat that TR just run and he will never catch you in his power. You can run STBL but I've been getting 4-6 stacks and one gen left lately.

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294

    It's more stressful for sure (SBMM). More frustrating too (Validation, undeserved nerfs).

    More boring a little, but that's because I really enjoyed hit&run, which is useless against CoH...

  • StarLost
    StarLost Member Posts: 8,076
    edited December 2021

    Killers that counter to some extent:

    • Cenobite
    • Artist
    • Hag
    • Huntress
    • Billy
    • Bubba
    • Demogorgon
    • Nurse
    • Blight
    • Trickster
    • Slinger
    • Probably at least 1 I'm forgetting.

    Honestly, I'm way more scared of someone that knows how to loop or abuse structures than a 'hold W' type.

    It's also the ones that can do both that really give me hell.

  • Dino7281
    Dino7281 Member Posts: 3,294

    Yeah, worst is the type that can hold W as long he can, then loop you for ages too.

    But thing is:

    everyone can hold W and waste enough time, it's just easy.

    It's not that easy to actually loop killer for a long time and you also waste pallets faster.

  • Gamedozer7
    Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 2,657

    Huntress,blight,nurse, Billy yeah the rest don't unless your in very specific situations. Using cenobitea chains at a distance it the wrong way to use his power and ends up losing distance. The rest cant do anything if you leave as soon as you hear there tr or lullaby. Holding w most killers can't do anything tell they catch up which can easily take 20 seconds to be in m1 range. Any trap style killer had to have a trap in that exact location they are going to which is unlikely. You can't loop anti loop killers that's the whole point of them having an anti loop power if you stay in a loop and try to loop a anti loop killer your going to go down fast and be super ineffective.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    I mentioned the 3 I personally play. Nurse, Billy, Huntress, Trickster, Oni once he gets blood, and Wraith can all counter hold W in the right circumstances.

    Stealth killers too via hit and run... Though not so much once CoH happened.

    Seriously... Holding W is counter able for a decent chunk of the roster. Not everyone mind you, but enough.

    Also Legion can 100% counter hold W.

  • ReikoMori
    ReikoMori Member Posts: 3,333

    Legion can counter W meta, but they can't counter the lack of overt lethality and the massive fatigue penalty of their power.

    Makes them great at farming BP, but stressful as heck when you really want to secure a win.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446

    I mean... They can. You just have to not play the standard killer meta on them. It's designed to be effective on killers who are lethal but lack info and game delay. That's not Legion.