General Discussions
General Discussions
Boil Over and Bleeding Out
Quick question:
Is intentionally NOT hooking the survivors and watching them bleed out reportable? Because I just had a group of survivors who tried to abuse Boil Over on Eyrie of Crows. I quite enjoyed slugging them and watching them all bleed out, but just want to make sure this form of retaliation won't get me banned.
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Bleeding out survivors isn't against the rules and won't get you banned
The only time you'll get banned for stuff like this is holding survivors (or killers) hostage and making it so the game can't end.
So in short, no - bleeding out isn't bannable, it's just not very nice.
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no
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Nope. Game can still end, so you did nothing wrong.
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Yes, this is a common term players in DBD like to use. If someone is doing something which they dont like, they just call it "abuse". Of course nobody is abusing any Perks or Offerings.
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No, its a tactical choice. A tactic born from the circumstances that this perk is a bit over tuned right now and some people even abuse it. I have had a few gentlemen agreements with survivors, who wriggled left and right on the floor, while bleeding out. These I would pick up and they wouldn't wriggle on their way to the next hook. I only ever got betrayed twice, but these players got thrown on the ground to bleed out.
The slugging pandemic surrounding Boil Over is a victim of its own success: you have a decent chance to wriggle out of the killers grasp on und way to a medium far hook, so the killer might more often then not NOT risk it. I have noticed a sizable decline in Boil Over usage. The storm blew over and things normalize afterwards... But for the entirely wrong reasons! Boil Over is now strong enough that it could replace one of the established meta perks, but its invalidating killers core gameplay, so they slug to prevent its usage.
No one likes that, so its usage already died down... and we are back to the stale meta.
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Well, if you sent yourself to RPD and everytime you get chased you run straight up to the library and sit in the corner - knowing full well you're basically guaranteed to wiggle off, yes I would consider that abuse
In the same way that a killer playing Bubba and facecamping someone is abuse - there is nothing the person dealing with it can really do.
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I mean you can call it just playing the game and ig stop complaining about it but if it's smth people find unfair/unfun & want to see changed ofc they'll talk about it in that way right?
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It's as abusing as pig camping the trap, but worse.
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I had a match where two survivors didn't like that I wasn't interested in chasing them around the Eyrie, so they ran at my zombies to go down and wouldn't let any survivors pick them up because they wanted me to pick them up so they could use either Power Struggle or Boil Over. That's not really "playing the game" when you force yourself to stay on the ground and refuse to actually do anything all match.
"Abuse" is the shortest way to describe that kind of behavior that most people can think of. If you have a more succinct way to say "the survivor is equipping Boil Over and burning a map offering so they can run to a high area where the killer has no choice but to slug, meaning they're playing without attempting to win but instead just to drag the game out for as long as possible," then I'm sure people would be willing to say that word or phrase, instead.
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The same survivors kept running up to the exact same spot on the main building of Eyrie of Crows to get downed. They continued to do this even after I had them slugged for long periods of time because it was clear they would wiggle out if I tried to hook them. If that isn't abuse, I don't know what is.
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You said it much better than me!
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Bleeding out is not bannable and perfectly fine..
People will say its toxic, not nice ect ect, but basically its in theme to let survivors bleed out, so do it if you want.
I'll crawl from one side of the map to the other and fight for every last gasp and then die with dignity.
Bleed out is 4mins, if your time is so valuable that 4mins is to much then get off the computer your time is to valuable to waste gaming!
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Yes it's absolutely abuse. With certain maps offerings and BO you can make it so the Killer literally can't hook you. Your intentionally abusing a game mechanic to make yourself unhookable and that should never be ok.
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Intentionally going to a place which exploits map and perk design to make you completely impossible to hook is absolutely abuse.
Bringing Boil Over is not. Exploiting that they let it through in a condition which breaks the game is.
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its insane how desperately you will defend any toxic unfun gameplay from survivors, it's disgusting
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Nah, I just dont like the word "abuse" and that it is used for basically everything. It is not only for Boil Over, you see Killers who say that Survivors "abuse" strong Loops or that Survivors "abuse" Dead Hard.
The word is dumb and not fitting.
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No, and I happily do the same thing to any survivors I down who are intentionally trying to abuse Boil Over on broken maps. If they came to the match with the intention of making me have a miserable time, I’m happy to return the favor.
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