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The devs don’t actually answer questions during their stream

iTz_KilLaZ_x
iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
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Ive watched the streams for a while now, and whenever the devs are asked questions regarding mechanic or balance changes, 75% of the time they don’t actually give a substantive answer 

Just earlier, someone asked about Freddy and they hardly went into detail on the projected changes or thoughts. Same with DS, hatch, etc... we ask about potential new game modes and no specific details are given... 

It’s frustrating as someone who supports this game to just be given empty statements rather than cogent responses 
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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    Ive watched the streams for a while now, and whenever the devs are asked questions regarding mechanic or balance changes, 75% of the time they don’t actually give a substantive answer 

    Just earlier, someone asked about Freddy and they hardly went into detail on the projected changes or thoughts. Same with DS, hatch, etc... we ask about potential new game modes and no specific details are given... 

    It’s frustrating as someone who supports this game to just be given empty statements rather than cogent responses 

    Thats not fair, they have answered a lot of lore question and they gave precise answers.

    The balancing stuff however.....

  • MyersLunge
    MyersLunge Member Posts: 2

    Can someone tell me what they've talked about so far up to this point? (2 PM EST to now).

    Stuck on the road atm

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
    SenzuDuck said:

    Because as seen with the Hatch change they showed, if they show/talk about it people will constantly bug about it.

    If they say something definitive about freddy and it doesn't happen you get a plethora of whiners posting every day on the forum "wheres this, wheres that, i liked that, i didn't like that, i want it, give it to me" yadda yadda yadda

    Better to just throw buggy ######### that no one asked for into the game(See: Unhook Immunity).
  • Keene_Kills
    Keene_Kills Member Posts: 649

    It was literally a 40 minute-long juke.

  • Keene_Kills
    Keene_Kills Member Posts: 649

    Survivors died more than survived over the past several days right before Rank Reset? Weird!

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    Because as seen with the Hatch change they showed, if they show/talk about it people will constantly bug about it.

    If they say something definitive about freddy and it doesn't happen you get a plethora of whiners posting every day on the forum "wheres this, wheres that, i liked that, i didn't like that, i want it, give it to me" yadda yadda yadda

    Better to just throw buggy ######### that no one asked for into the game(See: Unhook Immunity).

    Seems to be a big issue with Kobeying, mostly. I'll guarantee the killers experiencing it aren't reporting it and are instead using the forums to complain and ask like survivors even asked for the change.

    That thing was literally reported on the first day it was introduced, but never mind :wink:

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Tzeentchling9 said:
    SenzuDuck said:

    Because as seen with the Hatch change they showed, if they show/talk about it people will constantly bug about it.

    If they say something definitive about freddy and it doesn't happen you get a plethora of whiners posting every day on the forum "wheres this, wheres that, i liked that, i didn't like that, i want it, give it to me" yadda yadda yadda

    Better to just throw buggy ######### that no one asked for into the game(See: Unhook Immunity).

    Seems to be a big issue with Kobeying, mostly. I'll guarantee the killers experiencing it aren't reporting it and are instead using the forums to complain and ask like survivors even asked for the change.

    That thing was literally reported on the first day it was introduced, but never mind :wink:

    Because if something happens once it can be put down to lag, if only one person reports something it usually isn't enough reason to look into something, especially something that only really heavily impacts a tiny percentage of killers (the face camping kind) so report it more and it'll be looked at as an issue and not a direct effect of lag, think about it.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    That's good then, that's more than enough.

    Welp, balance seems close to perfect actually, only low ranked Survivors need to get just a tad more love.
    Now they need to work on the fun factor of certain mechanics.

  • iTz_KilLaZ_x
    iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
    SenzuDuck said:

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    I’m not lying. 3 of us are killer mains who play killer way more. Survivor isn’t something that takes tons of skill. We rush gens, loop, and make saves when it’s optimal. We don’t waste anytime. We don’t even need self care, as that wastes time normally. If we all run meta perks, we can mess around and still escape

    I'm shook, I told you about m 4King with a blindfold and you didn't even compliment my skill.

    I play killer fairly often and have never dodged a lobby in my life, you can go and check my discussions page to see how many posts I have to make crying about SWF (I'll save you the time, it's 0 because I'm actually competent at the game).

    The main reason I do poorly in a match is mistakes a made, you're free to complain but the fact is, survivors die more than they live, and more direct buffs to the killers and we're going to push into territory of survivors dying 60 - 70% of the time and I actually like earning my kills and not being handed them.

    I never claimed or implied to wanting my kills handed to me. I’ve seen your comments before and all you do is strawman like you just did to me.

    I can kill no problem with killers who actually have an effective power... but there’s still a select few who can’t even do anything to stop pallet looping besides rely on mind games
  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    That's good then, that's more than enough.

    Welp, balance seems close to perfect actually, only low ranked Survivors need to get just a tad more love.
    Now they need to work on the fun factor of certain mechanics.

    It's funny because at rank 3 it takes a large dip for some reason ahah, those rank 3 plebs letting us all down eh /s

  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Master said:
    ok bro :lol:


    Stats are from today btw.

    And?
    We all know what kinds of players can get to rank 1, on both sides.
    The rank system is a big joke

    Lol, you're a deranker, you're the reason these kinds of stats are skewed as it is.
    You're just mad your "OK BRO :LOL:" can be dismissed with recent stats because it just shows you're not very good at the game.

    Yes the rank system is screwed, thanks for finally understanding

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616
    edited November 2018

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    That's good then, that's more than enough.

    Welp, balance seems close to perfect actually, only low ranked Survivors need to get just a tad more love.
    Now they need to work on the fun factor of certain mechanics.

    It's funny because at rank 3 it takes a large dip for some reason ahah, those rank 3 plebs letting us all down eh /s

    What i'm very curious about is why PS4 does so well on rank 15-13.
    But then so ######### on red ranks.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    That's good then, that's more than enough.

    Welp, balance seems close to perfect actually, only low ranked Survivors need to get just a tad more love.
    Now they need to work on the fun factor of certain mechanics.

    It's funny because at rank 3 it takes a large dip for some reason ahah, those rank 3 plebs letting us all down eh /s

    What i'm very curious about is why PS4 does so well on rank 15-13.
    But then so ######### on red ranks.

    there was a another stat that stated PS4 users Mori less as well.

    I wonder if it could be a biproduct of the game being free on PS4 sometimes?

  • Freudentrauma
    Freudentrauma Member Posts: 1,053

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    So it contains the event? Then I have to say the stastic is basicly useless, then. Death rate was abnormal during that time. Farming rounds as well.

  • Seanzu
    Seanzu Member Posts: 7,526

    @Freudentrauma said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    So it contains the event? Then I have to say the stastic is basicly useless, then. Death rate was abnormal during that time. Farming rounds as well.

    They never stated which month it was taken from afaik so it might but i also might not, you'd have to see if @not_Queen would be able to confirm

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Freudentrauma said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    @Boss said:

    @SenzuDuck said:

    I didn't watch the stream.
    Did they say over what period of time those stats came from?
    And when that time period occurred?

    70 days is what they stated.

    So it contains the event? Then I have to say the stastic is basicly useless, then. Death rate was abnormal during that time. Farming rounds as well.

    Oh yeah, true.
    Though not completely useless, you can still make conclusions from this picture.

  • iTz_KilLaZ_x
    iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
    Mc_Harty said:

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    Why don’t you at least admit to strawmanning me? You seem egotistical so maybe that’s why you can’t acknowledge it

    No offence, but your the one that asked for evidence that was in the very stream your complaining about...

    That’s not a strawman by me asking for evidence. I mentioned how I didn’t even watch the entire stream. 
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    That’s not a strawman by me asking for evidence. I mentioned how I didn’t even watch the entire stream. 

    Never mentioned you were straw-manning.

  • iTz_KilLaZ_x
    iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
    Mc_Harty said:

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    That’s not a strawman by me asking for evidence. I mentioned how I didn’t even watch the entire stream. 

    Never mentioned you were straw-manning.

    I don’t understand your original comment? My main point of this post was to say how the devs don’t actually answer questions... not about survivors survival rate at each rank and platform  
  • Mc_Harty
    Mc_Harty Member Posts: 3,293
    edited November 2018

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    I don’t understand your original comment? My main point of this post was to say how the devs don’t actually answer questions... not about survivors survival rate at each rank and platform  

    You asked for evidence, he gave you evidence. What else is there to understand?

    The devs don't answer questions clearly because every passionate player treats their word as gospel. So they're vague to stop themselves being backed into a corner.

  • iTz_KilLaZ_x
    iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
    Mc_Harty said:

    @iTz_KilLaZ_x said:
    I don’t understand your original comment? My main point of this post was to say how the devs don’t actually answer questions... not about survivors survival rate at each rank and platform  

    You asked for evidence, he gave you evidence. What else is there to understand?

    The devs don't answer questions clearly because every passionate player treats their word as gospel. So they're vague to stop them being backed into a corner.

    They can clarify that not every idea discussed will be implemented. We’ve been waiting on the DS, hatch, and other changes for so long now.

    Duck strawmanned me and you make an irrelevant comment about me not knowing about the chart presented on stream? I acknowledged earlier that I didn’t even watch the whole stream to see the chart 
  • ChesterTheMolester
    ChesterTheMolester Member Posts: 2,771
    I understand that they nowadays refuse to give us info on unfinished changes, given how there was even outcry because unconfirmed dates on the wiki.

    Yet, i only watched it hoping for any Freddy changes, left disappointed.
  • iTz_KilLaZ_x
    iTz_KilLaZ_x Member Posts: 300
    ChesterTheMolester said:
    I understand that they nowadays refuse to give us info on unfinished changes, given how there was even outcry because unconfirmed dates on the wiki.

    Yet, i only watched it hoping for any Freddy changes, left disappointed.
    It’s the devs fault. They endorsed the wiki without even investigating and saying “hey, do NOT list projected dates for release unless we confirm it first”.

    And yeah, they made a mistake but who cares...? One stupid thing shouldn’t scare them into not telling us stuff. If some of the base can’t handle information, that’s on them for being immature crybabies.