So I played a small session of Killer today again
Here is my experience if anyone cares.
I played 2 games of Clown (first was a daily the second was a kick gen challange).
Game 1: 4k - was a pretty chilled game and was also a normal 12 hook game but I made use of smart zonings, I kept at the endgame the survivors at a dead zone and kept hooking there till I got all.
Game 2: 2k - nothing really special was a fun and nice game but the 2 who escaped complained that I "camped".
Then I played only Nemesis my baby, 14 games
The first 3 games where all 4ks against pretty bad survivors, I gave them on purpose chances to unhook and stretched the game by slugging some last hook ppl and let then chased other ppl so everyone got easily over 20k points (without event points).
Then it started again slowly again, I got more and more sweaty survivors. Game 4-5 went okey with 2-3 kills again nothing that special.
I reached now 18:00 (GMT 2+ germany time) and I got then my beloved super sweat squads.
Last games where all either 1-2 VERY close kills but only with 2-3 hooks cuz they all died on first hook at the endgame and they let the ppl die and just left. The majority of the last games where just 0ks since I didnt really used super strong loadouts, I was just trying around with Iri umbrella badge and coupe de grace.
The survivors ofc insulted me very harshly in the endgame chat for beeing a ######### player, I should go kill myself and have no worth in my life. That I am a miserable piece of ######### and they worte in profile that I need a therapist for beeing that retardet.
*Edit: It wasnt just one game, I kept getting insulted for beeing bad however I was obviously playing Nemesis, he is quiete strong in a 1v1 but really bad at keeping pressure on everyone so if you manage to play coordinated you will beat a nemesis pretty easily and they obviously know that however they try to get under my skin by calling me bad.
Now I am done with Killer again since I keep getting since now only super sweaty teams with full meta loadouts that just rush the gens as fast as possible and let ppl die IF I manage to get someone later, the games are mostly just 1-2 hook games with barely any fun or points. I can also not really do my challenges since I dont get to do them with 5-7min games. They all do play very good and save, they always go on very far distances and make use out of anything possible, they also bring the strongest items possible like purple med kits with syrenges and styptics or often brand new parts.
My point here is that facing those teams is a clear loss and there is nothing you can do against that if you also dont bring your strongest. I dont want to play Blight or nurse with op addons and moris, I just want to play for the event and challenges but still get matched with ppl like this. If its MMRs fault or not doesnt matter, BHVR should finally find a way to seperate super sweaty players from ppl who just want to play for fun.
Also even though this isnt really direct prove or anything but I am pretty sure many ppl have similar experiences like that if they dont play full on sweaty for kills. This is a big reason WHY there are only blight or nurses out there that are playing 4 anti gen, if you dare to play a lower tier killer just 4 fun you will meet 50% of the games sweaty survivors making use out of that and trying to bully you for that.
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We care...jus a lot of reading.
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Survivors are mostly playing like they are on tournament. When survivors focus on generators, there is no way to stop them. Because most maps are supporting them already.
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Ye I am bad at comprimising words sry about that.
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Ye that is also true, however I do also believe that something about the holding w meta should be also done.
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It is really important to remember that toxic players aren't human. Their words have as much meaning as the spider on your wall. If that guy told you that you were worthless, would you care? Probably not... It is a spider, fam. If anything, I adamantly believe a spider has more value than a toxic player. So realistically, if you had to take one's opinion to heart, it really should be the spider.
But guess what? A spider literally doesn't care. So what was the problem, again?
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That is going way to easy on a toxic player. You should definitely remember that toxic players aren't human and should instead find where they live and use their face as a mask! -WWBD
What Would Bubba Do
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You're going to have win streaks and you're going to have losing streaks. I'm confused what you feel would be better. If somehow you only got 4ks or 4ks with some 2ks or every game a 2k?
Anyway, I don't see any issue with you getting sweaty survivors. You're going to lose and when you do it's going to be verses people who are better than you (also referred to as sweaty on these forums). Why did you even post this to this forum?
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The issue is not about the kills, I dont care if I even got 20 0ks in a row, I want hook games. I rather have a 12 hook game with 0k than a 2k with 2hooks, its boring killing someone on his first hook and also not fun at all trying to get your first hook till all gens pop.
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I dont really care how much insults ppl throw at me, for me its more about that gameplay, I dont like getting faced with these sweat lords and meanwhile I run around with my lvl 40 killers trying to do challanges.
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Swf's wont ever change, not all of them are cringey sweatlords who abuse and stomp everything insight but a fair few are.
It's just about dollars, Behaviour could do something to limit the power of swfs but they won't, It's good for money making, you invite your friends to play, they spend money, streamers showcase the game with their friends more people spend cash.
I found dbd by seeing it on special on steam then watching it via twitch to see how it is.
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Holy cow, yeah! Thats probably worth at least 1-2min reading time!
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I mean if you want to fix the "Hold W" meta then you need to address killers whose powers completely shut down loops in general. Why would you waste time trying to actually play a tile against so many of the newer killers when their kits tends to punish people for trying to do anything BUT hold W.
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I wouldnt say so, I woud approach this in a different way. I would buff the basic attack, currently the basic attack has no difference of a "power hit" and therefore weaker killers that suffer from holding w are in a disadvantage compared to other killers that have mobility and power hits. Why not making that the basic attack gives the survivor a shorter hit burst compared to a power hit, which means weaker killers get a better chance against holding w since they only have a basic m1 like lets say Doc.
I dont remember the exact numbers but the hit burst was 3 sec? So reduce it to 2 sec, if a Blight for example does a rush hit its the same 3sec hit burst so stronger Killers do have actually no change it all. Meanwhile Nurse blink hits should also be FINALLY changed to a power hit so she doesnt benefit from this change but also annoying exposed perks dont along with nurse aswell, I believe this should be a thing a long time ago anyway.
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I appreciate the effort and detail so il keep my response short. Play what you enjoy. if you enjoy killer but it sucks, maybe change your goals as killer. I like to be in character as killer, dont really care if i dont get multiple kills, i just like being in the zone, the gameplay. Stalking, chasing. Even if the survivors are turds i just enjoy my side of the game the best i can. If all else fails, go looking for the fifth survivor until they game ends. 30 seconds later you could be in another game. I hope this helps.
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Another killer sob story. This community is something else, there are actual real world problems and then there is dbd forums. "Poor killers, they are always getting bullied so we have to justify the boring tactics they use (camping) and complain about survivours bringing items and meta perks etc."
Dbd community = most salty and whiny gaming community🤮🤮🤮🤮
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i haven't read your long text but if you want to play dbd on a high level and care about "winning" (which is 3k-4k for most people) then you have to dismiss the idea of 12 hook games. It's just not possible against good survivors and that's not their fault. If it would be possible to 12 hook every game then it would be highly unbalanced. Hooking everyone once is absolutely no pressure for the survivors. But having someone on death hook means they either have to take hits and leave gens or they can be easily pressured in a 3v1 scenario, there you have the upper hand most of the time, at least as soon as you hook someone and some other surv has to go for the save.
You can still just go for hooks but 4 survivors will have it easy to pressure gens if they're not busy in other ways. They game is generally balanced if you know how to play, the only thing that ######### it up is the RNG of tiles and loadouts. No need to change the general mechanics.
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Well, your point could be if survs don’t play swf you 3-4k on average and killers deserve a nerf
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Well my goal is simply to get hooks and points but if you meet those sweaty squads there is little to nothing you can do about, unless you decide to play op killers and perks yourself however you never know if the next game is again a more chilled game against survivors that dont sweat that much and that is the thing that annoys me, you never know what you face and IF you are unlucky well you gotta accept that you are gonna waste 10min of your life for nothing.
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well I never say I care about kills, I care about the gameplay itsself, I could 4k every single game 50 times in a row but if these where kills with survivors dying on their first hook I dont feel very rewarded and its not fun at all. Idk why everyone is so obsessed with kills...
dbd is also fun by actually playing
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I dont really get your point? Why are you in a dead by daylight forum if you are looking for real life problems discussion? dafuq?
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Not for nothing, you are playing a game, like i said, try to make it fun in your own way. Sometimes i play hide and seek with really bad survivors. I played a group who started really bad, so i ran and hid. They never found me
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Exactly, I do try to make the game fun in my way, I play with fun perk combinations or addon combos, try to play in unique ways. However this is getting disturbed by ppl to rush gens or tryhard for their lives like its a tournament, its hard to ignore that if you just want to have fun, especially if you get this over and over.
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That's true for any player tbh. I have faced 20 games of killers who play as if they are about to lose their spot in a tournament, even though someone DC'd at 5 gens. I've had plenty of games against slugging blights and nurses who refuse to hook unless Exponential is in the game.
Let alone that in a lot of cases, survivors don't have any threat from you. And they aren't gonna let go of that gen, especially if you run Ruin, untill they are chased off or need to unhook someone. Those players aren't playing like it's a tournament, that's simply killers focussing too much on one chase, forgetting how long it's taking and then being pissed off that 3 gens have popped.
Let alone that maps aren't necessarily supporting them. The power of a map is spread in multiple catagories: chase potential, objective spread and mindgamability(it is still mindgaming to approach a survivor from the right after constantly appearing on their left in a certain chase for example, mindgaming isn't limited to chases).
Survivor sided maps are often maps that have a very strong chase potential for survivors, but these maps often lack a lot of vision and the objectives aren't easy to reach either without giving themselves away. If you keep on with the same strategy and don't adapt to the map, that's mainly on you.
When both sides are evenly matched and prepared equally, even on the most survivor sided maps the average would be close to a 2k(but slightly less), and even on the most killer sided map, the average would be close to a 2k(but slightly more).
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Yeah, like some matches that we have, the killer down a survivor really quickly and the survivor DC for nothing ruining the game for everyone, I like to play for hooks too, is more fun, you play, the survivors play, everybody get happy and blood points.
DBD have a lot of toxic players, not everyone, but a lot, DBD in fact is the first game I played that I meet so many toxic players, they turn mad just because you play good or bad and curse you for no reason.
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When i que up with my Pig, fred, Huntress, or Artist I mostly get ttv squads. Rest of roster is a blend of super stars and bots.
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When i face this teams, i don't follow their taunts (aka that annoying macro flashligh guy). Its best to ignore the "good loopers" and go for the lambs (the guys that like to hold M1 the entire match).
Doing that you will make less mistakes because thats what they seek besides annoying you. And surprisingly you can get sometimes 2 kill at least by not following their game, so staying calm its a good strategy.
And by the love of all good turn OFF the chat. Why are you even reading it?
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exactly
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You completly misunderstand the point here also it seems you dont get often good teams. It is obvious that you dont chase the best looper in the team but what if everyone is a good looper? Every single one of them can loop nearly perfect and uses those tiles efficiantly.
Also I dont care about insults, it doesnt bother me, infact it entertaints me.
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You are just assuming things.. i get a lot of tryhard swf and there is always something you can do better, just take to time to analize your match or record it and you will see that there is always a weak chain in them. None team its impossible to beat unless you are playing with the worst killer in the game like Legion for example..
And btw if you don't really care about toxicity in game chat then why do you complain about it every week like its the end of the world and like something that takes you away from the game? Its a bit contradictory.
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Ofc I do mistakes and there are things I could do better, however the fact that I have to tryhard like my life is at stake and play pin point perfect to get even barely any hooks is not fun at all. I want to play dbd to have fun, not to sweat simple as that. I am simply requesting for a way to seperate sweaty tryhard players with casual plays or ppl who simply dont want to tryhard.
How do I complain about it every week?
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I'm sorry, but. . . 16 games is a 'small' session?
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