Worst killer in the game
What do you think is the weakest killer in the game? how would you improve it?
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Trapper is the worst Killer imo. He wastes too much time setting up his Power for almost no guaranteed reward, as Survivor aren't dumb and know the most popular trapping spots, and that means Trapper is a basin M1 Killer with an unreliable Power. I don't know how to chance him, but he needs huge buffs
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Ghostface and it's not even close in my opinion. He's a slow M1 killer, SWF calls out his positions easily, his reveal mechanism is busted and stretch res users can reveal him behind objects, and he can't do hit and run anymore because of Circle of Healing. At least Trapper can snowball with some well-placed traps, Pig has some slowdown, and Legion has tracking and a traversal power.
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Legion or trapper. People might say Myers but he can one shot and has a busted add on. The other two are terrible and legion has suffered the most for circle of healing
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It's close between Trapper, Ghostface, and Legion but IMO it's Legion hands down. trapper can get downs without even chasing, Ghostface can turn his TR/RS off and get insta-downs (Yes I know his reveal is ass), but Legion has nothing going for him these days. Healing is ridiculously fast, Mend is a joke, his/her stun is to long, basic attacks reduce power gauge, and most importantly he is the only killer in the game that can't down with there power. That's just off the dome I'm sure a Legion main could add to this.
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Legion and it's not close. He is fundamentally the worst Killer and will remain at the bottom until he gets a full rework.
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Legion and like Pulsar said, it's not close. They basically don't have a power.
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I think the weakest killer ties between Pig and Legion. I don't have Legion, so i don't know anything regarding how to fix him. But about Pig... you only need one thing: take away the RNG from her traps. If i could propose a change, i'd make fives boxes spawn... and make survivors go through four of them "no more no less" each time (also, it would prevent box camping).
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As a fellow Pig main I can honestly say if they had to search 4 boxes every time I would never lose (I rarely lose now with her) so I am going to raise you an OP on this one. How about they can't get it off first try no matter what.....think that sounds way more fair. Sorry btw I play a lot of survivor these days so have to think about how I would feel facing it.
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You could make it three boxes max and everytime also... but i ain't sure you'd ever get headpops then.
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Legion, Pig, and Trapper.
No idea how you would improve Legion. I think they need a full on rework. Pig needs it to be so its guaranteed you have to search at least more than one box to get your trap off. So many times I've seen Pigs lose any pressure because the RNG gods lets survivors get their trap off on first attempt.
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Meh. If they fixed maps maybe. I just think being forced to search multiple boxes is a bit much (especially with certain add-ons). Our girl needs buffed I know that but making everyone run a long ass gauntlet ain't the way. I think my idea is more likely......assuming she is not nerfed instead lol.
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I don't know where I heard this suggestion before but I remember someone said it should be a fixed RNG system that goes something like this: Survivor 1 has to search 1 box, Survivor 2 has to search 2 boxes, Survivor 3 has to search 3 boxes, and Survivor 4 has to search 4 boxes. So basically it would be still be random on how many tries it will take, but you can guarantee that one survivor will have to search 4 boxes.
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Legion is the worst. Legion's power helps prevent survivors from being downed. Canceling their power is like eating a mini DS.
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Searching multiple boxes is actually what makes Amanda a threat... and what makes her gameplay unique.
It would at least be better than what it is now.
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Nurse totally. Lowest kill rate = buffs needed. Also nerf pig again.
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Look I said allow no one to be able to remove trap on first try. That does not mean trap off on 2nd try. They could still have to search all 4 boxes. As for survivor 1 searches once, #2 twice, etc I don't like it. That means at most 1 survivor searches all four. I would prefer the chance of multiples having to search 4 boxes and having no chance of getting off first try. just me though but honestly it's a mute point they will never buff her.
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I think its freddy dont get me wrong he is my favorite killer but he is really weak.
First his power have no effect if survivor are awake and if they took an alarm clock they cant go to sleep for another 30 sec even if you hit them.
Blood pool you slow the survivor by 15% that nice and all but you slow yourself by 15% too that kinda bad.
Blood pallet depending of the map you will need to break pallet before you can use them.
The tp you can use the tp only 1 time per minute but you cant use it at the start of the game. You cant tp on a complete gen or a block gen when the gen so even if the tp is the best part of his power the thing is so restrictive its not worth the long cd.
We enter the addon department now most of his addon are worthless the only decent addon for now are the one that reduce the cd on his tp. The catch survivor need to be asleep for that addon to activate. Before the last nerf most freddy user use the chain addon that was not because the addon were op but mostly because he had nothing better with the change to those addon some player realise this.
So yeah for those reason i believe freddy is the worst killer in the game. If they dont want to bring old freddy back that fine even if i will hate them for that but they should at least rework all is addon to make them more appealing to the freddy player and not a waste of bp.
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im going for Legion, and i dont say that lightly. Maybe a year ago i wouldnt have agreed on this but by now i dont really see anything else. Legion being so weak (And being my Main Killer) has made me stopp playing DbD since Boons came out.
I've made some Rework idea (most of them trash to be fair) in the past. But the Problem is that nobody really cares about Legion (at least thats how i feel about it)
Right now im just waiting for Legion to get their Rework and if its bad im gonna leave DbD behind for good. Until then im just having a break.
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deathslinger is harder to use, less efficient, less useful and less fun to both go with and against than huntress
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He slows to 4.0 when placing snares which is the same speed as survivors so you don't lose distance. Then when you round the loop they step in and you hit. I agree is CD on teleport is ridiculous and add-ons are horrible. He is the only killer I use Oppression with. I will run BBQ, Pop, Oppression, and Brutal with double dresses (each one has 4% failed skill check regression) so ideally they get the regression fail from oppression SK then another 8% from the dresses...assuming it works the way I think it does. I have fun with it.
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I'll rephrase it... the only time i felt threatened by a Pig, as a survivor, was when i had to do four boxes. Otherwise, its a walk in the park. There isn't that much pressure. The same feeling when i play her against decent survivors. And add-ons were nerfed hard. Now the timer is perfectly balanced around a four boxes search... add-ons or not. So i see no reason to not make it like that... especially when it gets rid of box camping.
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Legion by far, feels super boring to play as and against him.
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I would probably say Pig... unless you run the iri that starts everyone with traps.
Pig's trap slowdown is very strong, BUT outside of that iri addon, you have to get a down with a combo of M1 gameplay, the worst stealth in the game that basically requires perk slots dedicated to it to be useful, and Ambush which is just about the least powerful anti loop in the game. In particularly rough games (which aren't hard to have as Pig) you can end up with still having 1-2 of your hats on your hand when the last gen gets done... and then 25% or 50% of your slowdown is useless.
Freddy is a pretty good contender too.
I really don't agree with everyone saying Legion is the weakest. I'm not going to call them strong by any stretch of the imagination... but here's the deal... Legion is basically going to get value and slowdown out of their power every single game. Does it help put people on the floor? Not directly. However, it can and will make it so they only need to win 1 M1 chase and give them more time to get that M1.
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I don't know how strong/ weak Legion is since i don't play him. Apparently, with Wraith, i hear that he's the one that suffers the most from the Circle of Healing.
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Clown. He's one of the worst killers in the game. Sadly, Pig isn't far behind him either.
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Yeah... honestly Wraith is in the running as well. He's got some insanely good add ons though... but if you aren't running those he's pretty lackluster. He was a lot better before CoH. Basically, all Stealth killers were.
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Yeah, it's impossible for a character with map wide teleportation to "be the worst"
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Pig and trapper
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As others have said it, it's Legion. Which is a shame, because I actually quite liked them prior to the COH meta.
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It's Clown. Other killers may have inconsistent kits, but the absolute best that Clown can do is shorten some loops IF he isn't hard countered by the pallet being pre-dropped. It is admittedly kind of a tie between him and Legion- while he unambiguously just does less stuff than they do, nothing Legion does is especially strong either, so I get why people would say them.
For my money, though, at least having some mobility, slowdown, and tracking put Legion just a hair above Clown, whose only utility is a mediocre chase power.
As for how to improve him... give him a suite of dramatically more impactful addons. Each one makes his second bottle do something completely different; at base it's still the yellow speed-up gas, but he could have gases for the mangled status effect, gases that degrade generators over time, gases that reverse survivor controls, that make survivors louder, that mess with the survivor's camera, that buff him in various ways... when you load into a match with the Clown, you should have a moment of trepidation and uncertainty. "Oh god... what's he gonna do with those bottles..."
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So your telling me a tp that give the survivor a 5 or 6 second head start on a m1 killer is a good ability.
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As others have said Legion.
GF and Clown not far behind.
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In my experience, Clown. His power is weak, he almost always needs 2 m1's, his anti-loop is not all that strong, the yellow bottles are situational and hard to use effectivly because of the delay before the cloud starts working.
Trapper's power at least injures, Legion at least has map traversal and again his power actully injures so he can run, stab, m1. Pig is kinda ok at a lot of things but not really good at anything.
For Clown I feel like he's not really even ok at anything. He has a chase power and nothing else but its not even a very strong chase power.
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Freddy with Deadmans, and pain resonance and Tinkerer is not weak at all. He's really strong. Basekit Freddy might not be the best but he's pretty nuts with certain builds.
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Legion no chase power. And very inconsistent slowdown that only stops baby survivors. And no good interactions on either side. Full rework of power
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It will always be legion if how ever 4 different people could play as him in a match it would be better but he has the weakest power out of them all even tho he has killer instinct
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For me is Legion by far.
A lot of people say Myers and Ghostface, but they have instadown and Playing with Your Food is surprisingly good perk in them, even Fire Up in the case of Myers, but Legion don't have any good synergy with perks. Other people have said Trapper, but at least Trapper have the possibility of ending a chase quickly if the survivor step on a trap.
The only good thing of Legion is they have a guaranteed free hit, but aside that they're simple M1 killer easily loopable and playing safe you can ruin them. Also the CoH meta indirectly nerfed them.
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