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How did you feel about the new Bubba movie?
I liked it a lot.
I did have to admit that it had its problems. I didn't really buy the whole school shooting storyline, and they botched the subplot featuring Sally from the original film horribly (I'm not sure how it should have ended, but I am certain that they did it wrong - not to mention that they blatantly ripped off the idea from Halloween 2018). Some of the dialogue was corny, and slasher movie cliches are often in full play for much of the film (did Leatherface just get up again? after that? - yes, of course he did).
On the plus side, it had style. It was very visually appealing, and it had some of the most creative violence of any slasher film in recent memory (this would have easily gotten an NC-17 a decade ago). It does a good job of making you hate the main characters while simultaneously sort of caring about them, and the characters do seem well-rounded enough. Contrary to some early critic reviews, I felt that there was more suspense in this film than in most horror movies I've seen recently. The ending was totally expected, but still managed to feel satisfying (if that's how you like your movies).
And while it was flawed, it was a goddamn masterpiece compared to the 2013 film (which is the last one I saw, and which was unwatchably horrible).
I had to rewatch the original 1974 this evening after catching the midnight premiere last night, which I hadn't seen in over a decade, and I'd forgotten how good it actually was. TCM 2022 can't hold a candle to the original, but I think it's ultimately going to land as one of my favorites in the franchise.
(Also watched the new Scream yesterday afternoon, and I think it's one of the best sequels in that series as well.)
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obviously spoilers in this
It made me want to watch 2003 and 2006 again since those just got added to Netflix. The 2013 one is being added March 1st
Weird how I didn't realize this movie gets made so often? I mean we just had the 2017 one as well.
This one was solid. As soon as I heard the dialogue in the start I was like oh here we effing go. Just what I want in a Leatherface movie is preachy BS. But I was surprised later on.
I wasn't made they totally ripped off Halloween. But yeah I wasn't entirely sure how it should've gone down having her die like that seemed kinda off?
I tend to nitpick things that don't matter but I love when a movie tries to explain something the viewer would think about. I thought it kinda ridiculous she was a Texas Ranger for like 40 years looking for Leatherface and never found him. How exactly did that work out?
I liked how this movie had yet another NOD to the "door slam scene" but it like did it in its own way and wasn't trying to copy it. I also thought the end autopilot thing mirroring the end from the first movie was hilariously clever.
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Yeah, but make sure you watch the uncut version of the 2006 film. Netflix doesn't carry it.
I think the 1974, 2003, 2017, and 2022 films were all rated R without needing to be cut, while the 1990, 2006, and 2013 films were all rated X/NC-17 in their original versions and had to be cut to get an R rating; HBO Max includes the uncensored versions when they have the movies, but Netflix doesn't. (1986 film released unrated to begin with because they knew it'd get an X.)
Anyways, I just rewatched the 2003 film, and I think I might like it better than the newest one, but just barely. I also really like the 2006 film, but that one crosses the line into outright torture porn. It's not a movie you watch for the suspense, it's one that you watch because you want to see humans get horrifically tortured and mutilated for two hours. That was the "in" thing in mainstream horror at the time, and I loved a lot of those types of movies, but they're not for everyone.
Yeah, the dialogue in the first few minutes of the new film did make me worry that we were going to get the snot-nosed San Francisco take on Texans. As someone who lived in Texas for a while as a kid, I'm well aware that the state is full of some ######### weirdos, but I also feel like the state and its people get an unfair portrayal in a lot of pop culture. It's not fair to caricature the state as a bunch of gun-toting loonies while glossing over the positive aspects of the state and its people (and there are some). Our gun-toting Texan ended up feeling like the real deal, not a Hollywood stereotype.
Well, it is obvious that the entire movie was inspired by Halloween 2018, from the title to the requel status in the film chronology to the subplot about her, but that wasn't what bothered me. I just felt like they handled her story badly. I'm not even sure what I ultimately wanted, because as soon as she showed up, I found myself saying that "it sure will be cheesy if she ends up killing Leatherface" and "it would be a nice change if Leatherface killed her instead, just because we aren't expecting it". I ended up cheering for her to die, and then it felt unsatisfying when it happened (it didn't help that her last few words were both cheesier than mozzarella and unforgivably bad advice to be giving a teenage girl in a life-or-death situation). I don't think I would have been any happier if she would have lived. I don't know what I want.
I also agree that her backstory was stupid. I can believe that she never found him, but what I can't believe is that the police would let am obviously unstable and vengeful massacre survivor join the force for the sole purpose of spending all her time and the public's resources finding someone who victimized her all those years ago. Would they really give a psychotic a paycheck and a bunch of guns to go on a wild goose chase for 40 years? I mean, I realize that America has problems with its police, but damn.
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I just watched 2003 on Netflix. I did see it way back but honestly I was not feeling it.
This one had tons of "dumb horror movie decisions" that just went over the top. Jessica Biel being clueless that the loud sound she just heard was her boyfriend being murdered while she stays in a bathroom to get molested by the epitome of a creepy ass old man had my eyes rolling into the back of my head.
That made me realize I appreciated how 2022 didn't have NEARLY as much of that as older horror movies do. You could debate the girl hunting Leatherface instead of leaving was pretty stupid but at least it wasn't presented as them being totally dumb it at least had logic behind it. Is already haunted by the shooting. Will now he haunted by Leather being out there.
It would've taken me 4 seconds to realize there is something WAY OFF about this cop BEFORE he even showed up. The fact they didn't want to leave the body was so absurd and dumb. Where did she have that gun anyways? Did she literally have a gun UP there?
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Probably gonna suck like 90% of Texas Chainsaw films.
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It is weird to see him without his family, but overall I found it to be pretty enjoyable.
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Yes, the gun was in her vagina.
Well, yeah, but I don't go into a slasher movie expecting everyone to be a bunch of rocket scientists. I don't think they behaved that much dumber than actual teenagers might under similar circumstances.
The sheriff was one of the best parts of the film, IMO. Probably even better than Leatherface. He genuinely manages to be unsettling. Amazing actor. And yeah, I'm sure he seemed off to everyone in the movie, but I got the feeling that they knew it might be a bad idea to upset an armed, unstable redneck sheriff in the middle of nowhere, so they were trying to be amicable.
I would have voted to put the body somewhere and thank my lucky stars that there wouldn't be a formal investigation just so I could go back and get the pinata full of ganja, but I can see people who are more invested in the system refusing to leave it. Some people are just really... unable to think for themselves.
I agree that there were a lot of slasher film cliches, but it's one of the better 2000s remakes.
By all accounts, the 1994 film was pretty bad (only one I haven't watched), and the 2013 one was indeed horrible (it was just mediocre until the twist, at which point my eyes were rolling so hard I'm surprised I didn't rupture a cornea).
1974 one was amazing (I'd forgotten how creepy it actually manages to be). 1986 film was also pretty good, albeit in a different way (funny rather than scary). 1990 film was all right (I remember thinking it was okay, but I don't otherwise remember much about it - at least I'm sure it didn't suck). Few people argue that the 2003 and 2006 films are badly made; the primary complaint with those is that they're nihilistic and disgusting, but that's how I like my movies. Newest film was fun.
I finally brought myself to watch the 2017 film yesterday, and as someone who spent some time in a Texas mental institution as a teen, it made me downright giddy to watch. It doesn't feel like a TCM film, but it's an interesting one in its own right. Very NBK, Devil's Rejects kinda feel.
By my calculations, then, only 22% of the movies actually sucked. Which ones didn't you like?
Well, we did see one of his family members, but now that you mention it, it is strange that the ranger was focused squarely on Leatherface when there were at least four of them involved in the original event. I do wish they would have explained more about what happened to all of them.
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