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I hate new killer and spirit

LeeONE
LeeONE Member Posts: 203

First spirit with her passive phasing, now sadako, I hate this thing and I don't know why I nobobdy complained about this. So many bad spirit players caught me just because of this, because they randomly changed their movement direction around loops while passive phasing, yes this is random, but how am I supposed to counter this? Okay I can get over with spirit, I rarely see her nowadays and most of them not even trying to loop without ability, so passive phasing problem still here, but it's not that frequent.

And now sadako with her own passive phasing, it's doesn't last as long as spirit's but it's way more frequent.

I don't know how to counter this, maybe I am just bad player

Comments

  • LeeONE
    LeeONE Member Posts: 203

    Ok but maybe you know how to counter random invisibility? Or you are bad player too?

  • LeeONE
    LeeONE Member Posts: 203

    Let's take a regular rock loop for example, so I've pre dropped pallet, killer starts looping that loop so I can't leave it, for distance I have to pay attention on killer, so I am running around rocks, looking on spirit that sometimes changes her direction, but then suddenly she disappears for second or two, I see only 2 options in this situation, stay and wait a bit which results in a lost distance, and run around the rocks same or different direction, which may result in no distance loosing or complete distance loosing because i've run in to the killer, none of the options is safe, so what should I do?

  • LeeONE
    LeeONE Member Posts: 203

    Ok, hmu when you will learn how to counter this for sure, wanna learn too

  • ThiccBudhha
    ThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,987

    Use Dead Hard to get to another pallet!


    Honestly, I do not know, I have seen it really throw off a lot of survivors I have played against too. I have never played against her, really, so I can't give any specific advice. I am at that level as survivor that I just accept the down if I can't make it to a decent tile.

  • LeeONE
    LeeONE Member Posts: 203

    I'm not survivor main and I'm not running dead hard, I guess I have to accept that there are random mechanics that killer can't even use when they want

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 891
    edited March 2022

    I got also caught by this but it's the last thing people should complain about. She is not strong and if she gets a hit here and there it's fine. Same with Spirit, she's defo stronger than Sadako but she's not the monster she used to be. With some knowledge and of course some luck/ mindgames you can outplay her fairly often and then she's a 110% killer who eats every pallet until she has her power again.

  • GoodBoyKaru
    GoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 22,809

    Yeah it can be confusing but that's the entire point of her kit- to be confusing.

    What you have to remember is that she's a 115% killer but you are not meant to be immortal within a chase. Her flicking can be dealt with just like Spirit's, by catching glimpses and making reads accordingly, but unlike Spirit Sadako can see when she's flickering and make plays around this knowledge too.

    It's something that's really hard to explain but you'll figure it out with practice, I'm sorry. You said above you don't play much survivor so the only real advice I can adequately give is to just play a lot and pay very close attention to her position in a loop.

    A lot of the time, the mindgames that work through the flickering also works normally on a 115 killer, it just feels different because of the flickering.

  • drsoontm
    drsoontm Member Posts: 4,903

    Spirit has been nerfed so now only a inexperienced player would not know what she is doing. Going against her isn't even thrilling anymore. (Why do you think she virtually disappeared from high MMR games?)

    Sadako is a weak killer from the start.

    If you don't know how to counter a killer, here is a tip : play it until you stop winning and see what the survivors do.

  • Cetren
    Cetren Member Posts: 985

    The irony here is pretty humorous.

  • EntitySpawn
    EntitySpawn Member Posts: 4,233

    She only passive phases when she cant attack you or for 2 seconds after she demanifests.

    The trick is just to keep an eye on her and be map aware, remember any time she come out a TV she can attack instantly and just loop her like normal.

    Most players are second guessing alot of actions when in reality shes just a basic attack killer, just drop the pallet when shes close as you wont have time to do another loop rotation.

    Its likely you just need more practice, most loops do have multiple parts to them and dont forget shes small. So if shes hiding behind something to demanifest you can just run away to the next closest tile and she wont know till she goes round the loop as shes too small to see over alot

  • RenRen
    RenRen Member Posts: 1,443

    I rarely have any problems with the passive phasing of spirit. As for Sadako, I haven't played.

  • I_am_Negan
    I_am_Negan Member Posts: 3,756
    edited March 2022

    Passive phasing spirit

    Keep your eye on her and out mind game the mind game she's tricking you if she goes left she's really going right, right into you. So do the opposite when you're looping when you have a chance break away make some distances confuse her if you can with your scratch marks. Always try and break line of sight The best advice I can give you is don't be predictable and keep an eye on her at all times. And whatever you do don't walk at her if she's standing there. Just need more practice when you get it down it's a lot of fun going against spirit especially a good one.

    I only play 2 matches against Sadako I'm not really sure.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,717

    Interestingly, my last comment in a previous thread postulated on people complaining about Sadako's passive phasing/Mani mindgames, likening them to the previous Spirit 'issues.'

    Didn't take long.

  • MikaelaWantsYourBoon
    MikaelaWantsYourBoon Member Posts: 6,564

    They both are so cute, what do you mean man

  • GannTM
    GannTM Member Posts: 10,887

    You’ll learn to like Spirit.

  • lauraa
    lauraa Member Posts: 3,195

    You can have anti-loop, or you can have gimmicks like phasing.

    I'll take the phasing, thanks.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 6,915

    Sadako’s passive phasing is confusing and I have been thrown off by it but it’s by no means op. I think it’ll be easier to go against once I play against her more.

    I NEVER get thrown off by spirit’s passive phasing though. I never found it hard to keep track of.