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Should SWF have a rank requirement?
I don't know where a balanced rank would be maybe Purple ranks but I don't think it should exist for all ranks.
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Now, as much as I don't wanna defend swf....there are those who just wanna jump in with a few rank 20's who just got the game. Not saying that's what you meant, just saying that's who'd get screwed over.
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If they did this they may as well make SWF a seperate queue, killers or survivors that dont want play with SWF in a match could just derank staying out of the zone.
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No, but maybe they should be match made against killers a rank, or few higher, or something to compensate for the difficulty?0
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The solution I look at is everyone has their own SWF rank as survivor and you have to be 5 ranks within a teammate to queue with them.
Although even with that when you look at any solution for the Rank 1 + Rank 15/20 stomping new killers you'd have to account for rank reset + Different groups an swf plays with. I do feel like regardless of restrictions though SWF should have their own rank in the same queue but the rank changes should be shared among the party as opposed to individually. That way if someone climbs or drops they all do so together.
Again though then comes the issue of playing with multiple parties and do you want to impose restrictions. Although having a third rank could potentially make it easier to specify specifics such as SWF Survivor rank never drops below a certain rank for example even during reset.
tl;dr - Have 3 ranks in the same queue = Killer Rank / Solo Survivor Rank / SWF Survivor Rank
I wrote my post assuming you're referring to like rank 1's deranking or queueing with rank 15's to ruin new player games btw
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SWF should be placed with a killer whose rank matches that with the highest rank in the match.
I find it weird that newer killers are queued with SWF groups that have red ranks just because there is someone in the SWF group at a lower rank. I think this is why there are so many boosted and toxic SWF squads. They take advantage of getting a killer thats lower rank.0 -
@Dustin said:
The solution I look at is everyone has their own SWF rank as survivor and you have to be 5 ranks within a teammate to queue with them.Although even with that when you look at any solution for the Rank 1 + Rank 15/20 stomping new killers you'd have to account for rank reset + Different groups an swf plays with. I do feel like regardless of restrictions though SWF should have their own rank in the same queue but the rank changes should be shared among the party as opposed to individually. That way if someone climbs or drops they all do so together.
Again though then comes the issue of playing with multiple parties and do you want to impose restrictions. Although having a third rank could potentially make it easier to specify specifics such as SWF Survivor rank never drops below a certain rank for example even during reset.
tl;dr - Have 3 ranks in the same queue = Killer Rank / Solo Survivor Rank / SWF Survivor Rank
I wrote my post assuming you're referring to like rank 1's deranking or queueing with rank 15's to ruin new player games btw
Yeah cause I play at green ranks for killer but getting matched against red/purple rank survivors with yellows and usually the higher ranked players play worse
main issue is when I get matched against solo survivors at the same rank and they are potatoes and it really ruins my expectations. I just don't like games where I get my ruin broken in less than a minute and 3 gens done before I down 1 survivor and struggle to get a 2k, then a game following it where the survivors struggle to do a single gen and I get 2 dcs on their first hooks. I just want game consistency and swf really stops that since you have a coinflip of coordinated survivors vs. potatoes in your games.0 -
@akbays35 said:
Yeah cause I play at green ranks for killer but getting matched against red/purple rank survivors with yellows and usually the higher ranked players play worse main issue is when I get matched against solo survivors at the same rank and they are potatoes and it really ruins my expectations. I just don't like games where I get my ruin broken in less than a minute and 3 gens done before I down 1 survivor and struggle to get a 2k, then a game following it where the survivors struggle to do a single gen and I get 2 dcs on their first hooks. I just want game consistency and swf really stops that since you have a coinflip of coordinated survivors vs. potatoes in your games.Can we clarify on one thing are you suggesting SWF only be available at purple ranks for survivors in your original post? I do feel as though I'm misunderstanding something in your OP maybe you could clarify.
Although the main reason I'm suggesting a SWF Rank is you'd have more control over that through matchmaking. You could make SWF rank's start at 10 for example and everyone would share the pip changes. That is again if I understood your original post but I feel as though I'm not.
In the grand scheme of things though I feel as though SWF causes rank inflation for both sides. You get survivors who don't interact with killer ranking up and as those survivors climb they get fed off of by killers who then climb to a rank they shouldn't be.
My opinion aside I do agree the game could use more consistency but I don't believe that's possible with how different the Solo vs SWF survivor experience is. I'm not convinced it's possible to bridge the gap anymore without major core game changes either.
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@Dustin said:
@akbays35 said:
Yeah cause I play at green ranks for killer but getting matched against red/purple rank survivors with yellows and usually the higher ranked players play worse main issue is when I get matched against solo survivors at the same rank and they are potatoes and it really ruins my expectations. I just don't like games where I get my ruin broken in less than a minute and 3 gens done before I down 1 survivor and struggle to get a 2k, then a game following it where the survivors struggle to do a single gen and I get 2 dcs on their first hooks. I just want game consistency and swf really stops that since you have a coinflip of coordinated survivors vs. potatoes in your games.Can we clarify on one thing are you suggesting SWF only be available at purple ranks for survivors in your original post? I do feel as though I'm misunderstanding something in your OP maybe you could clarify.
Although the main reason I'm suggesting a SWF Rank is you'd have more control over that through matchmaking. You could make SWF rank's start at 10 for example and everyone would share the pip changes. That is again if I understood your original post but I feel as though I'm not.
In the grand scheme of things though I feel as though SWF causes rank inflation for both sides. You get survivors who don't interact with killer ranking up and as those survivors climb they get fed off of by killers who then climb to a rank they shouldn't be.
My opinion aside I do agree the game could use more consistency but I don't believe that's possible with how different the Solo vs SWF survivor experience is. I'm not convinced it's possible to bridge the gap anymore without major core game changes either.
I would like it swf to only be available at purple ranks and above since these players would typically be in the same play level. That way coordinated and good players would be at an expected level and not be deranking. This would force players to play well and not derank if they want to play with their friends. I don't think a seperate que would work because killers wouldnt want to play on there. It would create an incentive and deters survivors from dcing unless they want to be at potato ranks.
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@akbays35 said:
I would like it swf to only be available at purple ranks and above since these players would typically be in the same play level. That way coordinated and good players would be at an expected level and not be deranking. This would force players to play well and not derank if they want to play with their friends. I don't think a seperate que would work because killers wouldnt want to play on there. It would create an incentive and deters survivors from dcing unless they want to be at potato ranks.
Oh okay yeah that makes sense thanks for clarifying.
Just in case to clarify on my post I'm not suggesting an alternative queue only an additional rank specifically for SWF. If I need to update my post I'll do that because I know I kind of made a massive wall that was a bit messy.
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So you want just high rank players to be able to swf. The high tier players that make the swf seal team six everyone argues about? Meaning the low level new players that just want to play with friends cant, and you ALWAYS face super swf groups? Ntyakbays35 said:@Dustin said:
@akbays35 said:
Yeah cause I play at green ranks for killer but getting matched against red/purple rank survivors with yellows and usually the higher ranked players play worse main issue is when I get matched against solo survivors at the same rank and they are potatoes and it really ruins my expectations. I just don't like games where I get my ruin broken in less than a minute and 3 gens done before I down 1 survivor and struggle to get a 2k, then a game following it where the survivors struggle to do a single gen and I get 2 dcs on their first hooks. I just want game consistency and swf really stops that since you have a coinflip of coordinated survivors vs. potatoes in your games.Can we clarify on one thing are you suggesting SWF only be available at purple ranks for survivors in your original post? I do feel as though I'm misunderstanding something in your OP maybe you could clarify.
Although the main reason I'm suggesting a SWF Rank is you'd have more control over that through matchmaking. You could make SWF rank's start at 10 for example and everyone would share the pip changes. That is again if I understood your original post but I feel as though I'm not.
In the grand scheme of things though I feel as though SWF causes rank inflation for both sides. You get survivors who don't interact with killer ranking up and as those survivors climb they get fed off of by killers who then climb to a rank they shouldn't be.
My opinion aside I do agree the game could use more consistency but I don't believe that's possible with how different the Solo vs SWF survivor experience is. I'm not convinced it's possible to bridge the gap anymore without major core game changes either.
I would like it swf to only be available at purple ranks and above since these players would typically be in the same play level. That way coordinated and good players would be at an expected level and not be deranking. This would force players to play well and not derank if they want to play with their friends. I don't think a seperate que would work because killers wouldnt want to play on there. It would create an incentive and deters survivors from dcing unless they want to be at potato ranks.
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