Tyde's New tier list
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You play the worst 4 killers in the game on everyones tier list man! Lol You must be a masochistGoldengeartwo said:Disagree with Hag being so low. Out of the 4 Killers I play (Doctjor, Pig, Freddy, Hag) I feel she's my strongest Killer by a decent margin.
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@AChaoticKiller said:
I'm about others but this list is... Well pretty bad. Here's some things of like to say about it.Myers is not a A tier killer, idc what he says. Even with red add-ons I have never been destroyed by a Myers. He gets looped, usually only gets 1 person downed in EW3 in rank 1 (just play billy for this but better
)and he needs to waste time to charge his power.Hag is NOT D tier. Just listen to the video he clearly does not know how to play hag properly. Granted a lot of players don't either. A good example of this is he does not even talk about useing the camera flicks for free hits, yes FREE hits which he said she can't always get. I'm not going to go deep into her as she is hard to grasp and her play style is weird.
Leather is not B tier... I don't really think I need to go into this but just because a killer has an Insta down does not mean he is good. Basically any nearby object be it a pallet, wall, or window can deny his power. Windows are everywhere as well as pallets, you can circle an object exploiting your smaller hit box to avoid a saw that would have got you, and it can be juked fairly easily, its like a big wide lunge with the killer swinging side to side.
This might just be me but wraith is C tier. His buffs have allowed his power to be used more often in a chase and many times I cloak right after a hit and get to the survivor before he can get to a window or pallet. He also got a lot of good add-ons with his buff like a free mangled after a cloak hit and the cloak speed add-ons.
Yeah, this new tier list is BS, thats why i have my own and it work REALLY well, much better than this video.
Only perks were used to play with proper decent builds for me to achieve this tier list, no addons or offerings...
Top Tier: Nurse, Spirit, Hillbilly, Huntress, Michael.
Mid Tier: Hag, Trapper, Doctor, Pig.
Low Tier: Clown, Leatherface, Wraith, Freddy.
Even after the rework on Wraith, if he isnt using addons, he still SUCKS, also hillbilly without addons is almost as loopeable as Wraith. Clown is a big JOKE, AHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA!
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Dying right now, I really needed thatMight_Oakk said:The real tier list:
S - Nurse
D - Everyone else
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Hate these posts... They should be moved to where Twitch streamer advertise their channels.
Who cares what a streamers says about how THEY feel killers rank against each other.
Stop advertising.
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Here's a link to TydeTyme dying to a Hag with 4 gens left, while at the same time trash talking No0b3:
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Here’s a slug vid =D
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And here's an end game slug clip (60 seconds) with TydeTyme. Sorry for the crappy quality, but it's due to Twitch Clips:
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@Dreamnomad said:
@PhantomMask20763 said:
(aside from nurse being best killer in the game because we all know that is a true fact) it's perfectly fine.Perhaps on the PC. On PS4 the nurse is largely thought of as a joke killer. So your fact isn't really a fact.
@PhantomMask20763 said:
Dreamnomad said:@PhantomMask20763 said:
(aside from nurse being best killer in the game because we all know that is a true fact) it's perfectly fine.
Perhaps on the PC. On PS4 the nurse is largely thought of as a joke killer. So your fact isn't really a fact.
Well yeah, I'm a ps4 player myself, however some people can still play her very well and have mastered the nurse so technically nurse is still top tier she just has a much higher learning curve
@akbays35 said:
I'd like to see Truetalent and Monto have a teir list, I think theirs would be more accurate.@LightsOut88 said:
Goldengeartwo said:Disagree with Hag being so low. Out of the 4 Killers I play (Doctjor, Pig, Freddy, Hag) I feel she's my strongest Killer by a decent margin.
You play the worst 4 killers in the game on everyones tier list man! Lol You must be a masochist
@Nickenzie said:
Might_Oakk said:The real tier list:
S - Nurse
D - Everyone else
Dying right now, I really needed that
@Kaelum said:
Here's a link to TydeTyme dying to a Hag with 4 gens left, while at the same time trash talking No0b3:@Mc_Harty said:
@Cardgrey said:
Here’s a slug vid =DWhat does that have to do with his list?
Look at all these not talking about his tier list....
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I’d say that vid probably sums up how he is as a player honestly. He even says at one point that how long u are down affects how long it takes u to get up. =p
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It's too opinionated while claiming so many facts for me to enjoy. To each their own.
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I think people get worked up over a list made in his point of view. Forgetting we all have bias and make mistakes.
Cut the guy a break. He’s only human like me and you.1 -
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different wordsthesuicidefox said:@michaelmyers87 said:
I think his list is based on skilled killers using them. I crush with Michael. He’s the first killer I mastered and got to rank one on the old system when it was harder to rank up.He has the easiest one hit down.
That doesn't mean that Myers is a good killer though. Just that you reached his maximum potential sooner than you did with other killers. Nurse takes far more skill to use than Myers, but the payoff is way better once you get to that point. That's why Nurse is top tier and Myers is, at best, upper mid-tier.
@Zanely89 said:
Tier list is an opinion, of course it will based off of personal experience and how much success that person have with a particular killer.
If that couldn't be reflected into making a tier list, then official should just release the killer rate.of each killer as tier list and call it a day.Tier lists are not opinions. Well, officially recognized ones are not. Tyde's is, which is why it's not really a tier list. Tier lists are based on stats and abilities of a character compared to others, as well as official tournament results (which we have only had 2? but all Nurses AFAIK). A character with better stats and/or more options will be superior. A higher tiered killer will have more success, when played to their maximum potential, than a lower tier killer.
When people say "I can 4k with Freddy at rank 1" it doesn't change the fact that Freddy is just mechanically less powerful than the Nurse. If you take the absolute best DBD in the world (killer and surv) then clone them 4 times and have him play a game against himselves, the outcome will be determined mainly by which killer he uses. Perks, the map, and RNG can all influence the outcome too, but the high tier killers are generally the ones least affected by these drawbacks. If you pick Nurse then these things matter less than if you are Freddy.
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@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different words
Ah but that begs the question then, who said it better? Taking bets, now place your bets here folks. 😁
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I think I just learned the definition of a strawman argument from watching a YouTube video. And that Led me back here. Pretty much what I was saying is that dude was making a strawman argumentpowerbats said:@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different words
Ah but that begs the question then, who said it better? Taking bets, now place your bets here folpowerbats said:
@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different words
Ah but that begs the question then, who said it better? Taking bets, now place your bets here folks. 😁
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@michaelmyers87 said:
powerbats said:@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different words
Ah but that begs the question then, who said it better? Taking bets, now place your bets here folpowerbats said:
@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different words
Ah but that begs the question then, who said it better? Taking bets, now place your bets here folks. 😁
I think I just learned the definition of a strawman argument from watching a YouTube video. And that Led me back here. Pretty much what I was saying is that dude was making a strawman argument
Oh I understood that, I was just being sarcastic and facetious with my response. Hence the cheesy grin.
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Myers. Bubba. Pig. My 3 killer picks, forever and always. I dabble with others but those 3 i consisently do well with, for all the reasons Tyde said, so i guess put me down as one of the few who agrees with him.
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I 5k with Jason every match! Why isnt he on top tier?1
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S-Nurse
A-Billy Hag Huntress Spirit Clown
B- Michael Pig Doctor Trapper
C- Leatherface Wraith
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My personal tier list
Top tier
1. Nurse
2. Billy (yes I've finally accepted that he's better than Hag)
3. Hag
4. Spirit
Mid tier
5. Myers (1 more buff and he's top tier)
6. Clown
7. Wraith (He's solid right now ok? He's got a counter to looping and he's decent
8. Pig
9. Huntress (Don't bother making an argument with me on this, she's not top tier she's mid tier and she's overrated as hell she's lucky to be 8th I'm being very generous putting her here.
Bottom tier
10. Doctor
11. LF
12. Trapper
Trash tier
13. FreddyI respectfully disagree with Tyde when it comes to Hag and Leatherface.
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Imagine putting Pig and Wraith above Huntress.Poweas said:My personal tier list
Top tier
1. Nurse
2. Billy (yes I've finally accepted that he's better than Hag)
3. Hag
4. Spirit
Mid tier
5. Myers (1 more buff and he's top tier)
6. Clown
7. Wraith (He's solid right now ok? He's got a counter to looping and he's decent
8. Pig
9. Huntress (Don't bother making an argument with me on this, she's not top tier she's mid tier and she's overrated as hell she's lucky to be 8th I'm being very generous putting her here.
Bottom tier
10. Doctor
11. LF
12. Trapper
Trash tier
13. FreddyI respectfully disagree with Tyde when it comes to Hag and Leatherface.
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Such a long thread and yet nobody's bothered to ask the question that is of most importance:
Who put that enormous stick up this Youtubers bum?
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Literally nobody agrees with Tyde outside of his fanbase.
Hag mains came in to his twitch channel to defend the position that hag was not low tier and Tyde just would not debate them.
He chose instead to get frustrated, shutting them down with logical fallacies and/or bans(possible timeouts). The also joined his server and tried to make the same appeal, to no avail.
Prominent hag playing community members and TydeTime have a long standing grudge, the reasons of which are numerous but I think it's of value to point that out when showing off that his list has a clear bias in some areas.I'm not going to pick apart his list because I don't really feel like it, and I think people should play killers before passing judgement on them personally.
Tier lists shouldn't be held as some sort of gospel, people need to think for themselves.0 -
@Sn0wJob said:
Literally nobody agrees with Tyde outside of his fanbase.Hag mains came in to his twitch channel to defend the position that hag was not low tier and Tyde just would not debate them.
He chose instead to get frustrated, shutting them down with logical fallacies and/or bans(possible timeouts). The also joined his server and tried to make the same appeal, to no avail.
Prominent hag playing community members and TydeTime have a long standing grudge, the reasons of which are numerous but I think it's of value to point that out when showing off that his list has a clear bias in some areas.I'm not going to pick apart his list because I don't really feel like it, and I think people should play killers before passing judgement on them personally.
Tier lists shouldn't be held as some sort of gospel, people need to think for themselves.He strikes me as the type of player who can't recognize when something is good even if it doesn't fit his playstyle.
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@michaelmyers87 said:
lol you just regurgitated what I said with different wordsI know I wasn't arguing with you I quoted you to make some points.
@NightmareReborn said:
S-Nurse
A-Billy Hag Huntress Spirit Clown
B- Michael Pig Doctor Trapper
C- Leatherface Wraith
F- FreddyThis is a solid list. I would move Clown to top of B tier, and put Doc at top of C tier, but otherwise yes this is pretty much the case. Ironic how all the "slow" killers are the best killers in the game. Also they are all female. The only female killer not in top tier is Pig who is still a good all around killer.
@Orion said:
He strikes me as the type of player who can't recognize when something is good even if it doesn't fit his playstyle.He put STBFL in his top 5 killer perk list, over Whispers and Enduring, so that should tell you something. No doubt STBFL currently is a good killer perk, just not top 5.
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@thesuicidefox said:
He put STBFL in his top 5 killer perk list, over Whispers and Enduring, so that should tell you something. No doubt STBFL currently is a good killer perk, just not top 5.
So tell me your picks.
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Who cares about youtubers/streamers tier lists?2
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My Tier List Is As Follows;
IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT KILLER YOU'LL PROBABLY DO JUST FINE.
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That's a 10/10 Ducky.^^
To forget to encourage every survivor to run self care to "benefit the killer".
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@Wolf74 said:
That's a 10/10 Ducky.^^
To forget to encourage every survivor to run self care to "benefit the killer".
XDQuestion, if someone is unhooked would you rather they heal for 32 seconds or 16 seconds?
:thonk:
I have no issue with selfcare, every survivor I play against can run selfcare and it won't bother me, if self care is the reason you're losing you're just a bad killer, stop losing injured survivors it's not that hard lmfao.
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@Wolf74 said:
@thesuicidefox said:
He put STBFL in his top 5 killer perk list, over Whispers and Enduring, so that should tell you something. No doubt STBFL currently is a good killer perk, just not top 5.So tell me your picks.
...kinda just did, didn't I?
The rest of his list was as expected, BBQ, Ruin, and Nurse's. I don't agree with Sloppy Butcher being number 2, but it's more likely to be top 5 than STBFL. He put that over BBQ and Nurse's. It's a good perk but not THAT good.
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That's a 10/10 Ducky.^^
To forget to encourage every survivor to run self care to "benefit the killer".
XD@SenzuDuck said:
@Wolf74 said:
That's a 10/10 Ducky.^^
To forget to encourage every survivor to run self care to "benefit the killer".
XDQuestion, if someone is unhooked would you rather they heal for 32 seconds or 16 seconds?
:thonk:
I have no issue with selfcare, every survivor I play against can run selfcare and it won't bother me, if self care is the reason you're losing you're just a bad killer, stop losing injured survivors it's not that hard lmfao.
If we run in different directions… it doesn't matter... but again… it would need basic math skills to understand that.
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@Wolf74 said:
If we run in different directions… it doesn't matter... but again… it would need basic math skills to understand that.
XDOf course it doesn't matter, if you're a bad killer you'll find any excuse instead of just admitting it.
Again, I'd have survivors run self care over pretty much most meta perks because it doesn't change balance at all, the maths is irrelevant considering the silly little scenarios you come up with to "prove your point".The only time self care is useful is
1. You get unhooked so you can heal
2. You lose the killerin both of these scenarios you're likely to find a way to heal whether you have self care or not. Again, if you keep losing survivor and SELF CARE is the "reason" you lose you ARE bad at this game.
but yes, keep bringing up maths because that totally means you're right
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I have played this game for almost 3.000 hours, and I have dedicated on every killer a good amount of time because I like to play with all of them and have different variety so I don't get bored when I play killer. Usually I do killer rotation and try to use different addons. So, if I had to make an objective killer tier list it would be like this:
S-tier
1.) Nurse (hands down, I think anyone can argue about this).A-tier
2.) Spirit (with basic knowledge of how survivors move you can finish chases really quick. She's underrated by many people but when the community in general put more gameplay time on her you will see the real beast she is at full potential. Unlike the Nurse, she can't go through walls or pallets and her power has a cooldown, but she's a really strong and solid A tier killer).
3.) Hillbilly (I feel Hillbilly is on the same level at Spirit but the reason why I place him under the Spirit it's mainly because when I play against good SWF groups Hillbilly can have a really hard time being looped, on the other hand, if you master the Spirit she can do better than him against them, believe it or not. Nonetheless, he still has a great map control and a one-shot power that can cut chases really quick).
4.) Hag (different play style than other killers, just go placing random traps in the middle of nowhere without any pallet or window near, you will get constant free hits. However, unlike Spirit and Hillbilly, she needs time to "build" her power and I know by my own experience she can have a really hard time against good SWF groups. Also, if survivors are smart they will look where you have placed traps and when you down a survivor and start carrying him/her to a hook, they will just blow you traps since you can't avoid it).B-tier
5.) Huntress (her ranged power is really nice and can help you with loops and windows. She can also do well against SWF groups. The main problem she has and the reason why I place her under Spirit, Hillbilly and Hag is because of her lack of map control and because she's very map dependent).
6.) The Shape/Myers (his low terror radius combined with monitor and abuse can make him a really good killer. Sure, he can be looped, but if you learn to approach to survivors with your evil within at 99% you can pop it and avoid the chase. If you're getting looped you can just get more evil within and drop the chase when you're at 99%. He can even punish groups of SWF).C-tier
7.) Clown (he's a killer whose power can be used for survivors to use pallets faster and make loops last shorter, so you can clean up the map of pallets quicker than other killers. However, you don't have any way to snowball with him, and that's what make Clown and the killers under him in this list worse than the first six killers of the list. He can also have a bad time against SWF groups, like any other killer down him on this list).
8.) Doctor (I place him on this position because if you master him and learn how to use his power at the exact moment you can perfectly deny window vaults and pallets drops leading you to free hits. However, he would be way down on the list if he couldn't do this. Also it's important to mention the fact that he can start chases really fast thanks to finding survivors due to madness 1).D-tier
9.) Pig (she's pretty bad but her power can at least help her extend the game "if you're lucky with RNG". That can help you deal softly with gen rush and clean the map of pallets quicker so survivors have less stuff to work with late game).
10.) Wraith (he definately goes up on the list with his recent buff, and he has a decent map control with his speed while cloaked. As a stealthy killer you can approach survivors and bobyblock windows or pallets near survivors avoiding them to use them and getting free hits. However, he's still vulnerable to pallet loops, he can still be gen rushed due to the lack of pressure he can apply and can be soft countered by good SWF groups).
11.) Trapper (if survivors have a brain they will check obvious spots where you can place traps, and even if you place random traps in non-obvious spots you need to be lucky that survivors walk by those spots. Again, if you go against a good SWF group his power is completely nullified. To be fair, he can be a strong killer with his best addons).
12.) Leatherface (yeah, he has a one-shot power, but if survivors have a brain and are good at the game they will always tend to look where are pallets to loop, what windows they can use, so they can nullify his power and complete loop him. And if you good against a good SWF group they can make the match a complete troll fiesta to poor Bubba. He's hands down the best killer to guard the basement or to secure a kill, but honestly, I don't feel that's the way the game should be played and it's a really boring play style).F-tier
13.) Freddy (I think many of us agree with this. You have to put people to sleep before you can hit them, time for survivors to reach pallets or windows. Complete loopable killer to which his power can't do nothing to assist him in chases. You can't secure a hook, they can unhook in your face, they can heal in your face and wake up with a skill check... yeah, he needs a rework, probably I will try to make a proposal to give him what I consider a good and balanced buff).Obviously each one of us has a different view of the tier list and it can be really subjective depending on the person and also the tier list can vary depending on the addons used and the map they are playing in.
Beside this, my total respect to the list and work TydeTyme has put on elaborating his list.
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Tydes tier list is bs and has little good in it's existence.2
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I haven't watched the video, nor do I care.
I will prove Amanda is top tier.
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@ReneAensland said:
I haven't watched the video, nor do I care.I will prove Amanda is top tier.
(is she really D tier? How?)I agree she's top tier if she's on the right hand, if not, then higher-mid tier!
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Maybe I just do not know how to play Pig, but for me she is pretty weak.
Enlighten me, what's her strength?
-Crouching makes her slower and her FoV is terrible
-Ambush attacks are out speed boosted easy, especially since the telegraphs it with her roar
-RBTs are removed mostly to fast and she has to few
She slows down gen rush, IF she can get people down and they do not remove the RBTs to fast.
She can prevent people from running out the gates, IF she has still RBTs available in the late game AND the timing for that is right.
I admit that I am not good with her and do not really like playing her.
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@GhostrickSpecter said:
@ReneAensland said:
I haven't watched the video, nor do I care.I will prove Amanda is top tier.
(is she really D tier? How?)I agree she's top tier if she's on the right hand, if not, then higher-mid tier!
Yeah, Rank 1 Here, exclusively Amanda.
I think she's great.
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Tydes list is so bad that Generator Jake unsuicided for it.1
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I think what everyone has truly missed is that TydeTyme’s supposed Tier List, is not a Tier List at all. It is in fact a list of how well he is able to play those killers, and nothing more. He absolutely sucks at playing Hag, as he has no idea of how to play a strategic game with her. He comes off very pompous, because he is. He uses that pompous attitude, along with facts discovered by others, to elevate himself and to belittle others.
TydeTyme is good for nothing more than facts about the game that were discovered by others. I wouldn’t put any trust into anything else that he manufactures. He hasn’t been able to prove any of his own thoughts, and has a temper tantrum every time he is proved wrong. Play the killer(s) that you play best, and don’t let people like TydeTyme dissuade you. The best killers are those that YOU play well, not those on some stupid Tier List. ENJOY!
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